Story is the worst experience you can have in terms of achievements

[elvian.7103]

So lets get this out of the way first, im a bit retarded/ocdish :).

I am a player that really dispises having to do an instance over and over again. I wanna do something once and then be over with it (inc achievements) so if i fail an achievement i wanna reset the whole story instance. Turns out YA CANT. So i tried switching story steps in the journal (fair enough it warns you that you might lose progress). Now im at the beginning of all or nothing cus i wanted to nail the achievements from the karlkatorik fight in one go. I dont feel like playing through all those garbage steps just cus i assumed you could reset the instance.

I couldnt even do another attempt at the other achievements once i reloaded into the instance cus they got wiped too for me leaving :). Imo horrible player experience and i already am not a fan of this instance based story stuff.

[LucianDK.8615]

finish it and you can go directly to story instances you want to redo for achievements on second try.completely no need to restart fully.And if you fail, just port out and you can go back in to reset.

[Blocki.4931]

After you finish it you can easily repeat each individual story step from the place where you start it.

[elvian.7103]

The thing is i dont wanna finish it to go back. I wanna do the story step, if i fail achievement i want to reset everything and keep going back at it. If i fail i wanna go at it again and not go through the whole instance being like oh whatever ill do it again.

[elvian.7103]

Also you cant port out and go back in cus it ports you back into the part you left off and it removes all the attempts at the achievements.

[elvian.7103]

At least for the kralk fight that is

[Jemmi.6058]

You can just log out to character select and log back in to reset/restart the story instance.

[LucianDK.8615]

Then you only have yourself to blame if you dont want to do it the easy way. We have offered you easy solutions.

[Ashantara.8731]

@elvian.7103 said:The thing is i dont wanna finish it to go back. I wanna do the story step, if i fail achievement i want to reset everything and keep going back at it. If i fail i wanna go at it again and not go through the whole instance being like oh whatever ill do it again.

Most of those achievements you are talking about are much, much faster and easier done in a group anyway. And let's face it, whether you reset within the instance or start over at the step required is pretty much a similar approach.

[Jumpin Lumpix.6108]

Now If only we could skip dialogue and cutscenes...

[Ashen.2907]

Its not a big deal for me, but I too would prefer to reset an instance if I wish to pursue a failed achievement rather than finish the instance and then start over.

For me, if I am pursuing an achievement, continuing what I would then consider a failure would deprive me of any further enjoyment of the instance.

[LucianDK.8615]

Finish the ls episode once, then you can go back and redo individual story instances as you see fit. You are only needlessly punishing yourself if you cant wait. Anet already provided the option for easier ach hunting ONCE the episode is done with.

[coso.9173]

how do you unlock it by doing the story? i finished the story there and i still have some POIs without access.

[LucianDK.8615]

you are probably thinking of the hammers hoard in the same area. Go up close to the door and you get that one, its on the second level

[Eloc Freidon.5692]

Some achievements are very annoying to reattempt since you have to leave the instance, sit through a few minutes of dialogue and finally get a try.

This was an issue that was fixed in the last two chapters of Season 2, which was a convenience they forgot to implement since.

[Stalkingwolf.6035]

the worst is that you need 18 and only have 18 achievements. ( if i not missed hidden ones ).thats bad. there are many more on the map, why did they not include everyone in the meta achievement.

[Inculpatus cedo.9234]

Never mind. My bad.

[Hesacon.8735]

LW2 did it well. There was a mote to the effect of "did you screw it up, try again!" and it started you right where you needed to be to attempt it again. No cutscenes or slow moving NPCs, just you and the achievement.

[Inculpatus cedo.9234]

@"Hesacon.8735" said:LW2 did it well. There was a mote to the effect of "did you screw it up, try again!" and it started you right where you needed to be to attempt it again. No cutscenes or slow moving NPCs, just you and the achievement.

In Season Two, did you not have to finish the Chapter before the Achievements would even 'unlock', and then, only for the same character?

[Randulf.7614]

@Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:

@"Hesacon.8735" said:LW2 did it well. There was a mote to the effect of "did you screw it up, try again!" and it started you right where you needed to be to attempt it again. No cutscenes or slow moving NPCs, just you and the achievement.

In Season Two, did you not have to finish the Chapter before the Achievements would even 'unlock', and then, only for the same character?

Yes. Still annoys me today when I;m running alts through that I can't complete any of the few missing ones on the way through.

[Esterie.7409]

@"Stalkingwolf.6035" said:the worst is that you need 18 and only have 18 achievements. ( if i not missed hidden ones ).thats bad. there are many more on the map, why did they not include everyone in the meta achievement.

Yes, I'm surprised I haven't seen this talked about more. Every other living world episode from both seasons 3 and 4 came with 30-40 achievements, but always required less than that, and any achievements tied to that episode counted toward the meta, including hidden achievements. It was a step up from season 2, in my eyes. This made finishing the meta achievement much more enjoyable and less restrictive, as we could focus on only those achievements we were interested in. I don't know why they would change it now, nor why some achievements count towards the meta yet others do not. For some, I can see why they're "important" (story related), while some are just filler and I don't understand what makes them so important compared to others.

For example: Throwing 100 eternal embers at enemies counts towards the meta achievement, yet NONE of the skyscale achievements do. It just makes no sense to me. At this point, I'm only missing 3 achievements for the meta - 2 are story related and one is event related. Both story achievements are restricted - either timed, or I can't be hit by attacks - which means if I fail, I need to restart the instance over, and over, and over again. These are precisely the types of achievements I would have skipped in previous episodes, but now they are mandatory and it's quite discouraging and restricting.

[Vavume.8065]

@Esterie.7409 said:

Yes, I'm surprised I haven't seen this talked about more.

It seems like an oversight to me, I would have expected the 3 slayer achievements to be part of the meta but currently they are not, maybe they will add them at some point.

[Zok.4956]

@Esterie.7409 said:

@Stalkingwolf.6035 said:the worst is that you need 18 and only have 18 achievements. ( if i not missed hidden ones ).thats bad. there are many more on the map, why did they not include everyone in the meta achievement.

Yes, I'm surprised I haven't seen this talked about more. Every other living world episode from both seasons 3 and 4 came with 30-40 achievements, but

always

required less than that, and

any

achievements tied to that episode counted toward the meta, including hidden achievements. It was a step up from season 2, in my eyes. This made finishing the meta achievement much more enjoyable and less restrictive, as we could focus on only those achievements we were interested in.

Thats exactly what I was thinking. Making my own choice from the achievements for the meta-completion was fun. But having no choice and doing all listed ahievements for the meta is not so much fun and is a step down.