Raiken.1476 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 It seems the new elites have received changes since the last beta, but they aren't in the patch notes, and there is no word from Anet on what's different now. Post your findings, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace.1784 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Catalyst has some slight damage nerfs on all Hammer abilities (comparing with the GW2 skills calculator) and a larger nerf on the Hammer 3 (about 60% damage nerf). Some of the projectiles seem a lot faster, but no quantitative data on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levetty.1279 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Virtuoso F2 now also causes bleeding as well. Jagged mind causes 3% of condition damage done to heal you. Haven't found anything for Untamed. Not checked others yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotDelirium.7984 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 I have this creeping dread that they did almost nothing to most specs which they didn't want to include in the patch notes. The live game right now i think is the real "beta" which is kinda sad because it SHOULD be ready to go at launch. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynx.9058 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) From what I've seen, almost nothing was changed from the last beta, and any changes that were made were generally nerfs. I can't believe after all of the negative feedback on the state of catalyst, the only thing they did was make it even worse. Mechanist has had no changes as far as I can see, so at least it hasn't been further nerfed, but they did absolutely nothing to fix any of the issues that were brought up during the beta tests. Edited February 28, 2022 by Lynx.9058 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 I tested Virtuoso and WB. Very limited changes that are largely inconsequential. Balance wise, same since 2nd beta, which tells you the state they are in, which is kitten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwaihir.1745 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 The entire slowly rushing forward self stun locking playstyle of willbender is hilariously terrible. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorem.8104 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 So everyone, question, out of the elite specs, is there even a good one? I thought Mechanist might be good but it got stealth nerfs and is still useless in water. In fact I see there is a few stealth changes that have made classes worse then they were in even the second beta which was full of nerfs. Like is there a new EoD elite spec we would pick over other elites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Marshal.4098 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Bladesworn is able to use dragon trigger without being locked behind gunsaber. But that's only after the warrior's screamed for months about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwaihir.1745 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Grand Marshal.4098 said: Bladesworn is able to use dragon trigger without being locked behind gunsaber. But that's only after the warrior's screamed for months about it... You can race all the willbenders self stunlocking themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Red Arachnid.2493 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 I've only found one change that I'm sure of: Rot Wallow Venom from Dark Sentry has had its base duration reduced to 2 seconds of torment. It used to be much higher than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidit.7108 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 I guess they gave up on communication now that the expac is out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Inducer.8964 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 3/1/2022 at 5:03 AM, Gorem.8104 said: So everyone, question, out of the elite specs, is there even a good one? I thought Mechanist might be good but it got stealth nerfs and is still useless in water. In fact I see there is a few stealth changes that have made classes worse then they were in even the second beta which was full of nerfs. Like is there a new EoD elite spec we would pick over other elites? Your mileage will vary but I rather enjoy Vindicator atm. It lacks some native CC but I figure that's what weapon/legend swaps are for. That said, as a largely Ranger/Necro main I'm very disappointed at the state of those E-Specs. They have better have planned some serious design sessions to refine/rework a lot of these specs soon or a big selling point of the xpack is going to wither on the vine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorem.8104 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 5 hours ago, Riot Inducer.8964 said: Your mileage will vary but I rather enjoy Vindicator atm. It lacks some native CC but I figure that's what weapon/legend swaps are for. That said, as a largely Ranger/Necro main I'm very disappointed at the state of those E-Specs. They have better have planned some serious design sessions to refine/rework a lot of these specs soon or a big selling point of the xpack is going to wither on the vine. Yeah I am a Ranger/Warrior main that had rolled Engie to try out, was enjoying solo Scrapper before its now 66% sustain nerf. So like, the three classes I do play, 2 of which have extremely bad EoD specs and one of which is just Ranger core again. Have not rolled a Rev yet, might try if its literally the only spec that stands out. Spectre might be fine but the theif on my account is my bank and bag opening toon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeTect.5918 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Here I wrote down what changed for Mechanist (and my Feedback) for everyone interested in Mechanist: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenith.7301 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Gorem.8104 said: Yeah I am a Ranger/Warrior main that had rolled Engie to try out, was enjoying solo Scrapper before its now 66% sustain nerf. So like, the three classes I do play, 2 of which have extremely bad EoD specs and one of which is just Ranger core again. Have not rolled a Rev yet, might try if its literally the only spec that stands out. Spectre might be fine but the theif on my account is my bank and bag opening toon Revenant has the same skill animation with lack of visual effects in 3 of its 5 skills. It's first autoattack and skill #2 look the same, and don't even have meaningful class flair swing effects like guardian, mesmer, necro, or thief for example when you look at their blade swing effects. Just compare sword/sword and even hammer or mace/shortbow to greatsword and you'll see how incomplete visually greatsword is as a weapon. Greatsword 4 2nd part has the same swing animation as the second part of the autoattack chain. Have fun wasting your single dodge with no good self source of vigor or waste your energy to get 50 endurance back in any encounter like Qadim1 or Largos, or Dhuum or Horror, or Matthias, or Deimos, or CM fractals. Horrible design. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Vidit.7108 said: I guess they gave up on communication now that the expac is out. That's just ... weird. What do you want them to say? They released the patch notes for EoD ... what else do you want to know? Edited March 3, 2022 by Obtena.7952 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiyo.3578 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 14 hours ago, Vidit.7108 said: I guess they gave up on communication now that the expac is out. Yes, it was all a marketing ploy. I predicted this months ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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