Warrior or Necro?

[Gigawatt.7850]

I've played all professions now as core. Warrior and Necro is what it boils down to for me. Theif class fantasy wise seems cool but goodness I die a lot as a theif. Warrior feels really good and the rotation feels fluid. Love axe axe and spinning aoe mobs and players in pvp, feels really good. Love all the array of weapon choices as well. After watching some videos and feedback on forums, the new elite spec concerns me for warrior though.

 

Necro feels really good as well, feel like as a newer player I can make mistakes from time to time and not get punished for it. Love how necro is sort of a jack of all trades like warrior, but love how you can play ranged, mid ranged and melee.

 

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, and I'm sure this is subject asked to death, I apologize, just wanting a fresh 2022 opinion.

[Mesket.5728]

Go Necro. You will regret going warrior.

[Infinity.2876]

30 minutes ago, Mesket.5728 said:

Go Necro. You will regret going warrior.

Your signature is very funny coupled with your post

[Dadnir.5038]

Go for necro, or more like go for Reaper. Reaper take the best out of both necro and warrior.

[ZeftheWicked.3076]

Warrior is like a hot cheerleader - she does one thing only, but in so many ways and so well...
Necro is like that cute library goth girl. You think she's all about books but it turns out she can do everything you need and is still a freak when given chance.

Rational choice here is necro. I mean how long can you stand your girl being able to cook for you and nothing else, even if she's Gordon Ramsey level of chef?

[Spie.5024]

4 hours ago, ZeftheWicked.3076 said:

Warrior is like a hot cheerleader - she does one thing only, but in so many ways and so well...
Necro is like that cute library goth girl. You think she's all about books but it turns out she can do everything you need and is still a freak when given chance.

Rational choice here is necro. I mean how long can you stand your girl being able to cook for you and nothing else, even if she's Gordon Ramsey level of chef?

Now I wonder how you’d describe the other classes and how they’d stack up LoL 

[ZeftheWicked.3076]

29 minutes ago, Spie.5024 said:

Now I wonder how you’d describe the other classes and how they’d stack up LoL 

Well Rev is that crazy bipolar chick. At one moment she's all flowers, peace, and  hippie positive energy, then insta jumps to "Exorcist" level of demonic possession and wants to consume your soul..
Still better than when she's feeling her masculine energy complete with swinging hammers and some serious body hair..
Sometime she'll have her magical dragon stage... don't ask.
Then it all ends exactly the way you'd think -  she ends up with lotsa cats like any crazy and just stays like that...

Edited March 22, 2022 by ZeftheWicked.3076

[oscuro.9720]

Be warrior. Warrior is best class.

Necromancer is a weak flesh bag that uses the scraps of warrior’s slaughter to fight because never has no balls of it’s own. 
Meanwhile, Warrior is the one who will flatten mountains and raise up valleys. Who will cause the earth to quake and the sea to churn. Who will rip chasms into the earth from which the fires of hell will flow.

This is not with cowardly magiks or powers. This is from an oppressive and unconquerable will power. A force of will so raw and distilled it turns warrior into the living manifestation of the force of a thousand exploding suns. 

So if you want to see you enemies cower before you, if you wish to slaughter armies barehanded, if you wish to kill the gods and overturn the tyranny of fate, than play warrior.

 

If you are a necrophiliac than you should probably pick necro.

Edited March 22, 2022 by oscuro.9720

[Gigawatt.7850]

Thanks everyone for all your input and especially ZeftheWicked.3076 for his hilarious comparison stories lol. 

The thing I keep hearing is that every profession does everything better than a warrior on the forums and reddit. I hear you but could someone actually break it down so I understand? 

[ZeftheWicked.3076]

People exaggerate. There are professions that do certain things better than a warrior but not everything and not every profession.
The true problem with warrior is that he's been doing same thing for over 12 years, while others branched out, learned new tricks and even some of his own that were previously exclusive to him (ranger mostly).

This is a huge pain point to any support minded players, because warrior does have very nice and interesting support kit baked into his core, but it's meme levels at best without a proper e-spec that pushes it's efficiency into meta.
A support e-spec that up to this day never came...

Another big pain point is Warrior's core design, that denies him a lot of things everyone else gets. Warrior is designed as straightforward combatant that relies on player skill for survival rather than raw stats. Translation:

straightforward - no minions, no stealth, no poison, no teleports (save small ones for bladesworn), no big insta hits. If it hits hard it's very telegraphed.

player skill - no protection, very little passive defenses and nearly no damage reduction at all. Defenses are very binary. You press your panic button at right time and take no damage, or you fail/can't and eat full damage in it's brutal glory. Sustained pressure is the bane of warrior players until they really master their defensive rotation and escapes.

This all means low intensity builds are not on warrior's plate. While a necro who is polar opposite to warrior design can stack layers upon layers of both passive and active defenses and chill during fights that would have given a warrior a bigger workout than he bargained for. Necro is THE profession of attrition and he can handle being under constant pressure like a champ.



 

Edited March 23, 2022 by ZeftheWicked.3076

[DanAlcedo.3281]

Necro. 

Trust me. 

 

 

[jaif.3518]

There are a fair number of builds for both - I think people tend to exaggerate warrior's one-dimensionality.

Having said that, I would caution that warrior certainly has a higher overall skill floor as soon as content becomes "serious".  There are necro builds with a higher skill floor too, but mostly necro is more forgiving.

Btw, that may be an issue depending upon your personality; it's very easy to rely on necro's forgiving mechanics and develop bad habits as a result.

 

-Jeff

[GrayHawk.7560]

It 100% comes down to your preference on playstyle and class fantasy.

 

There are very strong builds for both.  A lot of the complaints you see are very over exaggerated and for the most part are about things we'll beyond what a new player will be doing (high end PvP, WvW, Raids, Fractals etc).  As a new player enjoy the open world and get a feel for each game mode, 99% of the time you won't be interacting with the outlier events that people are complaining about occur and by the time you do I guarantee you will have both a Warrior AND a Necro.  Upcoming balance may also shift things around.

 

For my subjective 2c on the classes (I enjoy them both for the record) -

 

Necro is probably the safer all round pick since Reaper is one of the strongest / easiest Open aworld builds available, Scourge is outright broken it's incredibly good in many places and Harbinger is one of the more polished of the new elites.  You also have a variety of playstyles due to summons etc. 

 

Warrior can be very fun and it looks like you enjoy the fluidity, options and big numbers and that's great, go with it.  Despite general comments Warrior is very much meta across the board in endgame PvE thanks to banners and it can be quite a fun style.  As for the elites, they too are fun but different feeling.  Unpopular opinion but I really enjoy Bladesworn (in Openworld and instanced PVE).  After the last changes it really isn't as stagnant as people make out and you have enough access to movement skills, blocks, stunbreaks and stability to offset the downsides in most cases.  The sustain is very fun and landing Dragon Triggers is very satisfying and is a massive dopamine rush every time.  From your write up on what you enjoy about Warrior I think you'll enjoy it a lot.

 

Here is a good tip, if you go to the PVP lobby you can try out all of the builds on static golems for free as they are all unlocked there.  Unfortunately it uses PvP balancing but you can at least get an idea of how each elite spec, all the weapons etc feel.  Go mess around in the PvP lobby with each spec and each weapon and see what captivates you the most.

[Fueki.4753]

Arenanet made certain that Warrior is outperformed in everything by almost every other profession.

Necromancer, on the other hand, performs better than many of the other professions.

Unless you care about the theme and colour scheme of Warrior, Necromancer is the superior choice.

Edited March 25, 2022 by Fueki.4753

[RabbitUp.8294]

On 3/22/2022 at 10:07 PM, Gigawatt.7850 said:

Thanks everyone for all your input and especially ZeftheWicked.3076 for his hilarious comparison stories lol. 

The thing I keep hearing is that every profession does everything better than a warrior on the forums and reddit. I hear you but could someone actually break it down so I understand? 

There are two aspects, thematic and balance.

Thematically warrior is undermined by almost every other profession. The thing in gw2 is that every profession fights with weapons, there are no typical wizards and such. Even the magical professions are more like magical warriors. Like, mesmer has illusions, but also fights with swords, guardian is a warrior with blue flames, engineer is a warrior with gadgets, etc.

Even gameplay wise, it feels like that, like you are playing a profession with less toys than everybody else. 

Then you see the problem in the elite specialisations too. Berserker is angry warrior, spellbreaker is so non-magical that it takes away other people's magic, and bladesworn is a super specific idea, what if greatsword had a gun attached to it. You can see how restricted warrior's thematic is, and it's very hard for them to branch out to new concepts.

 

Balance wise, I won't really say much, especially with a rework coming soon, but in pve warrior had been a banner slave for the last 10 years, and a bruiser in PvP just as long.

[Leo Schrodingers Cat.2497]

Both are pretty heavily desirable in PvE metas.

In PvP, both are pretty spooky to deal with. Warriors can get kited to hell, but the better warriors usually know how to make people come to them instead. And when a player has to come to a warrior, they've already messed up.

 

Necro is tanky for a mage due to the shroud. They can put off some serious hate with condi builds. And Reaper is their power option.

[Zekent.3652]

On 3/22/2022 at 8:56 AM, ZeftheWicked.3076 said:

Warrior is like a hot cheerleader - she does one thing only, but in so many ways and so well...
Necro is like that cute library goth girl. You think she's all about books but it turns out she can do everything you need and is still a freak when given chance.

Rational choice here is necro. I mean how long can you stand your girl being able to cook for you and nothing else, even if she's Gordon Ramsey level of chef?

Lmaooo what am i reading

[Antycypator.9874]

Both can be played by facerolling on a keyboard, but necromancers are at least edgy and they won't make you look like BS jailed newbies... and you know, BS is optional.

[Redpawa.4108]

Necro.

Warrior is cool and all when they aren't nerfed every 4 hours

[LucianDK.8615]

In most content warriors will be asked to go bs, aka banner slave.

[Mesket.5728]

4 minutes ago, LucianDK.8615 said:

In most content warriors will be asked to go bs, aka banner slave.

until the banner rework... then warriors will only be asked to leave

[LucianDK.8615]

Just now, Mesket.5728 said:

until the banner rework... then warriors will only be asked to leave

Depends on what Anet does with them.

[Arklite.4013]

The general attitude on forums/reddit/etc is very negative/complain-y. Warrior is a ton of fun and (like basically every other spec) remains competitive in all modes except for the highest levels of play. Pick the one you enjoy more. Bladesworn is actually fine. Spellbreaker is one of the most fun class designs in any MMO personally so I love it.

[Panda.1967]

On 3/22/2022 at 6:43 AM, Gigawatt.7850 said:

I've played all professions now as core. Warrior and Necro is what it boils down to for me.

I'll be straight with you on this... the Core professions are NOT a good representation of every profession. Elite specializations change up the way several classes feel and play drastically, to the point that some of them legitimately feel like entirely different professions once you've picked an elite spec. Engineer for example feels like a completely different profession when you run Scrapper or Holosmith (I haven't played Mechanist yet, but it probably doesn't feel even remotely like core engineer either).