Bern.9613 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Seems the eco-system in wvw is being turned upside down now that thief has been destroyed. I saw at least 4 threads crying about mechanists/engineers and one or two about willbender/guard running around unchecked. Betcha didn't see that coming. What's the plan now? Rework more traits? Oh I know, why don't you nerf a trait or two and call it a reward. That went over really good last time. 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenesis.6389 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 There is nothing to destroy of which was already destroyed by said "apex predator". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkTacoLover.7603 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 *teleport behind you* > 10k crit + 15k burn before you press dodge "nothing personal kid" *tips fedora and teleport away* 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSD.4673 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Thief was the apex predator? I thought thief was the carrion bird. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenesis.6389 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, LSD.4673 said: Thief was the apex predator? I thought thief was the carrion bird. https://i.imgur.com/vFpJlYa.jpg 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepwalker.1398 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Xenesis.6389 said: https://i.imgur.com/vFpJlYa.jpg Is that a really old screenshot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenesis.6389 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Sleepwalker.1398 said: Is that a really old screenshot? yeah probably like 3-4 years old, definitely before the 2020 damage nerfs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahne.6950 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Theres so many things wrong in this thread.... -Thief has not been destroyed. Deadeye is stronger than ever! And now... hold your horses..... CELESTIAL DAREDEVIL is a thing... and its THE thing. havent seen it yet? be glad! -Mechanist... if you are having a single reflect.. this spec looks like the biggest joke ever. -Willbender.... who complains about willbender!? Powerwillbender big p00p00 against anything thats not a glasscannon. And celewillbender big p00p00 against anything that can cleanse.... If you are dying to a build that does Burn and burn only... thats on you 😄 -There is literally Celestialharbinger running around.... PRE NERF!!! non of the nerfs made it to WvW.... CELESTIAL...HARBINGER... unnerfed... how can this thread ignore the elephant in the room... but complains about willybenders xD 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 I've met some pretty strong willbenders lately, its such a fotm build. Even a mechanist or two. Specters and daredevils still put them to shame as roamers. 9 out of 10 thieves will disagree with me and make confused emotes because luckily for the roaming scene, good thieves are few and far apart. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASP.8093 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Dawdler.8521 said: I've met some pretty strong willbenders lately, its such a fotm build. Even a mechanist or two. Specters and daredevils still put them to shame as roamers. 9 out of 10 thieves will disagree with me and make confused emotes because luckily for the roaming scene, good thieves are few and far apart. I love thief subforum because half the players are rightly drooling over a Deadeye+Specter comp winning monthly AT while the other half are raging about their perma-stealth "gathering build" (like, for gathering resource nodes) being nerfed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider.6024 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 sa changes were a massive buff except for people who camped stealth for 6+ seconds and only picked on non sustain roamers the mech getting explosive rocket is dumb but its got nothing on cele harb and specter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtoon.6907 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 I am going have to take out my thief and see how terrible he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkTacoLover.7603 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 29 minutes ago, Jtoon.6907 said: I am going have to take out my thief and see how terrible he is. dunno the build but i got hit by 14k with https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vault while in condi bunker equip + merged with stout pet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Tempest.7584 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, PinkTacoLover.7603 said: dunno the build but i got hit by 14k with https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vault while in condi bunker equip + merged with stout pet SA changes had no effect on Vault. That's a niche build that can catch people off guard because it's not common. It has lots of evade frames and can hit like a truck if it gets on top of you. Its drawback is that it's 100% melee... something a Ranger should be able to capitalize on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Tempest.7584 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, Dawdler.8521 said: I've met some pretty strong willbenders lately, its such a fotm build. Even a mechanist or two. Harb, WB, and Mech all seem to be FOTM. They're everywhere. They can be built stupidly tanky while doing decent damage thanks to Cele stats, WB's mobility rivals Thief's, and Harb is still busted in WvW since none of the nerfs carried over from other modes (why?!). No surprise that the Holy Trinity's EoD specs are over-tuned and overrepresented. 13 hours ago, Dawdler.8521 said: Specters and daredevils still put them to shame as roamers. 9 out of 10 thieves will disagree with me and make confused emotes because luckily for the roaming scene, good thieves are few and far apart. Generally agree. But that also suggests that about 10% of the Thief player base is alone responsible for all the salt and qq against Thieves. Compare that to any other meta roamer with whom certainly more than 1 in 10 encounters may not go well for the average player. Edited July 29, 2022 by Twilight Tempest.7584 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telgum.6071 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) Thief is stronger than ever, there is just no more recurrent permastealth. Every celestial build is worse than Mechanist. Harbinger is worse than Mechanist. Edited July 29, 2022 by Telgum.6071 Typo 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotride.2187 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 On 7/27/2022 at 11:06 PM, Xenesis.6389 said: https://i.imgur.com/vFpJlYa.jpg Woah nice 21k backstab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenesis.6389 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 15 minutes ago, Hotride.2187 said: Woah nice 21k backstab. How about nice 26k death's judgement https://i.imgur.com/yEekk7Y.jpg Another 21k bs https://i.imgur.com/1mUn8Pa.jpg Another 20k bs https://i.imgur.com/mYv16tI.jpg Playing zerk/mara was tough at times. 🤭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Tempest.7584 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 21 minutes ago, Xenesis.6389 said: How about nice 26k death's judgement https://i.imgur.com/yEekk7Y.jpg Another 21k bs https://i.imgur.com/1mUn8Pa.jpg Another 20k bs https://i.imgur.com/mYv16tI.jpg Playing zerk/mara was tough at times. 🤭 Member when Thief had damage appropriate to its glassiness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrollingDemigod.3041 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 8 hours ago, Xenesis.6389 said: How about nice 26k death's judgement https://i.imgur.com/yEekk7Y.jpg Another 21k bs https://i.imgur.com/1mUn8Pa.jpg Another 20k bs https://i.imgur.com/mYv16tI.jpg Playing zerk/mara was tough at times. 🤭 Imagine trying to play some Berserk/Marauder Elementalist in these times, didn't matter, still you'd get just reduced to atoms in 1 hit and you hit like wet noodle. 8 hours ago, Twilight Tempest.7584 said: Member when Thief had damage appropriate to its glassiness? Ah yes, so glassy, stealth for days, evades for days, teleports for days, truly "glassy" af. ( ͡ಥ ͜ʖ ͡ಥ) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 On 7/29/2022 at 11:34 PM, Twilight Tempest.7584 said: Member when Thief had damage appropriate to its glassiness? Member when thief had glassiness appropriate to its damage? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Tempest.7584 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) On 7/30/2022 at 9:45 PM, Dawdler.8521 said: Member when thief had glassiness appropriate to its damage? When was the last time you actually played thief seriously? EDIT: No answer, as expected. People sure love to talk about things they have no clue about. Edited August 4, 2022 by Twilight Tempest.7584 Talk is cheap. If you think thief is so great, get off your G/E/N and prove it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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