Sadmurai.2750 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Please 😔 9 2 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Not gonna happen (in the foreseeable future). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartie.5370 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Inculpatus cedo.9234 said: Not gonna happen (in the foreseeable future). Would still be nice for things like using the steam deck and sharing controller layouts (even more if they would add native steam input support, to allow mapping specific actions for specific modes like riding the mount). And maybe linking support will be implemented, if enough people ask nicely about it ^^ Edited August 16, 2022 by hartie.5370 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronos.6532 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 (edited) Steam only gets 25% revenue share after NCSOFT has made $10,000,000, and only 20% after they make $50,000,000. Includes sales from existing NCSOFT titles on Steam (only Guild Wars and FUSER unfortunately) Digital River / credit card companies / PayPal etc. still take a cut when you buy outside of Steam. ArenaNet will lose out on sales from existing players that would be more likely to make purchases through Steam. ArenaNet will also lose out on lapsed players who won't return to Guild Wars 2 because they would have to create a new account or, inconveniently, install the existing launcher. Steam users can use more payment methods including funds from the Steam Community Market. Steam users earn Steam Points as an added bonus, as well as Steam Trading Cards (if ArenaNet ever adds them) as a small rebate. Steam helps ArenaNet automatically do regional pricing. Steam does/can handle patch downloads for Guild Wars 2 worldwide, reducing ArenaNet's server costs! Though FINAL FANTSY XIV Online, EVE Online, Albion Online, don't allow you to use your existing account, the following MMOs do: RuneScape Old School RuneScape Star Wars: The Old Republic MapleStory MapleStory 2 Guild Wars The Elder Scrolls Online Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis Black Desert (as of a recent update) and many other games! Some MMOs (such as New World and Lost Ark) are *only* accessed through Steam! Since RuneScape launched on Steam in 2020, I've spent thousands on it (through Steam) but less than $150 on Guild Wars 2, even though I like Guild Wars 2 more and am willing to pay more money for it! I'm willing to spend thousands on Guild Wars 2, but I can't if it's not on Steam, and I know it's the same for many other players! Please don't ignore this part of our feedback! Allow us to link our existing account to Steam! Go with the decision that benefits the players the most! Edited August 17, 2022 by Cronos.6532 7 1 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinity.2876 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 For achievements I'm assuming  Definitely. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garpu.6210 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Or at least link an existing account and a Steam account. (Path of Exile does this.) 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Whilst I don’t get it either, there’s obviously a reason for it. It would be nice to know that reason, but they’ve had this feedback for a year. There is clearly an obstacle we aren’t privy to. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 I don't think it is going to change with just a week to go, when there have been suggestions to allow this ever since it was first mentioned there would be no 'link' years ago, and ArenaNet has not changed their stance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zistenz.1945 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Destiny 2 and Black Desert too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cxbem.9748 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Yes, please! We beg you. One-time transfer would be amazing. For players outside USA and EU it has been a pain to buy the expansions and gems, with the accessibility of Steam payments we will'be able to purchase the future content and gems more straightforward. Thanks. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serynna.3786 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 The one thing I would say is, if this does happen, please, please make it optional. Don't force all existing account onto Steam. Having had bad experiences with Steam, I do not trust it and would definitely not want to use it. I've no wish to have to keep trying to reclaim my account from Russian hackers - again. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronos.6532 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 35 minutes ago, Inculpatus cedo.9234 said: I don't think it is going to change with just a week to go, when there have been suggestions to allow this ever since it was first mentioned there would be no 'link' years ago, and ArenaNet has not changed their stance. They can always change how it works later if there's enough negative feedback about it! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diak Atoli.2085 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 29 minutes ago, Cronos.6532 said: They can always change how it works later if there's enough negative feedback about it! It's possible. On the other hand, there actually needs to be enough negative feedback. I'm fine with not being able to link accounts. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crono.4197 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Can you people stop behaving as if Steam is the all-be of PC gaming and people can't game without having it? You're acting as if the game is unplayable if it isn't on Steam. This is turning into an obsession, really. Bohoo regular accounts can't be linked, what a tragedy. Like come on.... 7 5 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luci.7018 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Cronos.6532 said: They can always change how it works later if there's enough negative feedback about it! (Like Raids?) I am sorry , i had to make that joke !  I don't think so , because the more people that interfere the distribution with the game , the less money each makes. Steam will use it's advertisement , to boost it's cut , while GW2 will keep their slow campaign to attract some other kind of people  Shouldn't we combine the October patch + stand-alone PvP server + 3 random spec/rotation every week and push it to Steam instead ? Edited August 16, 2022 by Luci.7018 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseden.8067 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Crono.4197 said: Can you people stop behaving as if Steam is the all-be of PC gaming and people can't game without having it? You're acting as if the game is unplayable if it isn't on Steam. This is turning into an obsession, really. Bohoo regular accounts can't be linked, what a tragedy. Like come on.... I don't know, your comment seems more 'boohoo' than anyone else's, to be honest. 4 1 2 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanBB.4268 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 How would multiple accounts work with Steam? No idea, just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronos.6532 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronos.6532 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 15 minutes ago, DeanBB.4268 said: How would multiple accounts work with Steam? No idea, just curious. It doesn't have to; for example, in RuneScape, you can just log in to the only account you've linked to your Steam account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronos.6532 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Crono.4197 said: Can you people stop behaving as if Steam is the all-be of PC gaming and people can't game without having it? You're acting as if the game is unplayable if it isn't on Steam. This is turning into an obsession, really. Bohoo regular accounts can't be linked, what a tragedy. Like come on.... We just want it to be easier to install/play the game and buy stuff, and get more out of our experience. 5 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garpu.6210 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Or like Elder Scrolls. YOu download the launcher via Steam, and it lets you log in normally. I believe when I created my account, I was able to link to a Steam account. Also for Path of Exile, I was able to link to my Steam account after the fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Cronos.6532 said: Steam only gets 25% revenue share after NCSOFT has made $10,000,000, and only 20% after they make $50,000,000. Includes sales from existing NCSOFT titles on Steam (only Guild Wars and FUSER unfortunately) You know what companies like more than losing 20-25% to another company? Losing 0%. Steam release is aimed at new players, they don't need to entice you into playing the game through another platform because you're already playing it. 9 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 What about the revenue share when NCSoft makes less than 10,000,000? Is that when the 30% cut takes effect? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyCurious.9256 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 SWTOR managed it when they released on Steam, not sure what's stopping ArenaNet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephire.8049 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 16 minutes ago, Inculpatus cedo.9234 said: What about the revenue share when NCSoft makes less than 10,000,000? Is that when the 30% cut takes effect? Steam gets 30% until you make $10m, whether you make $100 or $1,000,000 and it only starts going down when you cross $10m and make Valve over $3m just because they have a platform some refuse to leave. 30% is a massive cut, especially when the revenue is already being split up between studio and publisher and now a third party wants in. Companies like Digital River do take a cut but it's based on individual transactions and is typically small—5% or less. Steam wants nearly a third of anything and everything just because. Losing 30% of $40 is better than keeping 95% of $0 but it's understandable that Anet/NCsoft want to do what they can to keep veteran players playing (and paying) where they keep over 90% of the money spent on gems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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