how do you kill signet cata?

[felix.2386]

how do you kill signet cata?

[Downstate.4697]

What profession are you playing?

[felix.2386]

18 minutes ago, Downstate.4697 said:

What profession are you playing?

i can play whatever

[Downstate.4697]

1 minute ago, felix.2386 said:

i can play whatever

Well in a 1v1 your best bet is another condi side noder with cleanse.

the idea is counter pressure them and force them out of fire. Preventing free cast of fire autos is priority. Most likely they are going to swap earth and and try to immobilize combo you afterwards. If you can avoid that or cleanse it safely the ele is going to swap to water to resustain. Rinse and repeat until they mess up and die.

in theory condi zerker should be good at this but I’m not sure how it will actually match up. I imagine anything that can sustain and put decent condition pressure would be decent vs it.

in a team fight you auto lose without a support.

[Grimjack.8130]

nothing is beating sig cata 1v1, in larger fights cc spam it it only has 1 stunbreak or run at it with more damage than it has sustain since auras dont scale very well and if theres enough damage it wont be able to keep up stab and such and it also has limited evade frames or other mitigation

[Leonidrex.5649]

send kittening avengers and 1v5, then it maybe dies lol.
insert invincible meme : Thats the neat part, you dont.

[Eddie.9143]

2 holosmiths lol

[Tashigi.3159]

Don't bother, perma protection with conditions that renew faster than your cleanses. "Balanced". You're not winning unless you 2v1.

[Goldilock.2584]

2 hours ago, Grimjack.8130 said:

nothing is beating sig cata 1v1, in larger fights cc spam it it only has 1 stunbreak or run at it with more damage than it has sustain since auras dont scale very well and if theres enough damage it wont be able to keep up stab and such and it also has limited evade frames or other mitigation

I always thought since patch only nurf it needed was getting rid of the cleanse in fire for auras.

Do u think thats a good idea or bad one?

[Bladestrom.6425]

6 minutes ago, Goldilock.2584 said:

I always thought since patch only nurf it needed was getting rid of the cleanse in fire for auras.

Do u think thats a good idea or bad one?

That would impact other builds.  Rather than aura, cata skills should ONLY proc on combos then we would not have any problems.

Edited July 15, 2023 by vesica tempestas.1563

[Zagerus.8675]

Anything that has consistent confusion application alongside other condi burst pressure seems to be pretty effective since you need to use skills to heal with Signet of Resto. Reflects are also handy for Scepter earth 2. 

[Trevor Boyer.6524]

7 hours ago, felix.2386 said:

how do you kill signet cata?

1. Select highest raw DPS build possible, that lands peak burst in shortest amount of time.
2. When engaging the Catalyst, just kite around and act like you gave up.
3. Begin engaging in conversation with the Catalyst. Annoy him, make him feel the need to respond to you.
4. When you can clearly see the Catalyst has stopped to type a response, burst him.

The only way to kill it is to trick the player into taking his hands off his mouse & hotkeys.

[Cait Sith.4650]

One simple skill and it's done.

[stormemperor.3745]

7 hours ago, felix.2386 said:

i can play whatever

which means you can't play anything

[Frequency.6407]

Obviously, you have to play signet cata.

[felix.2386]

52 minutes ago, stormemperor.3745 said:

which means you can't play anything

your logic amazes me.

[Bladestrom.6425]

2 hours ago, Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

1. Select highest raw DPS build possible, that lands peak burst in shortest amount of time.
2. When engaging the Catalyst, just kite around and act like you gave up.
3. Begin engaging in conversation with the Catalyst. Annoy him, make him feel the need to respond to you.
4. When you can clearly see the Catalyst has stopped to type a response, burst him.

The only way to kill it is to trick the player into taking his hands off his mouse & hotkeys.

I used sleep emote to play dead and the cata thing stopped attacking and wandered off.

[agrippastrilemma.8741]

berserker if you outskill maybe

Edited July 15, 2023 by agrippastrilemma.8741

[ccccc.4963]

Power +1 the cata

[Trevor Boyer.6524]

10 hours ago, felix.2386 said:

how do you kill signet cata?

Real Answer:

~ Get the community to mutually agree to stop playing it because it's sleezy and it's messing the game up.

[Bazsi.2734]

Trait full damage by going CS and DeAdly Arts(why is the abbreviation censored?). Point blank https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shadow_Flare from stealth. It's not even a joke.

Edited July 15, 2023 by Bazsi.2734

[Flowki.7194]

Use the same setup, but on temepst, take torrents, bastion and sage amu + waterelemental. Start in air, blind him then swap to fire for the aura, just auto attack in fire and see what he does. If he charges in to updraft, hit overload to stunbreak, then cancel it with a dodge, auto attack some more. If he switches to earth, stunbreak that if you miss the dodge, then keep auto attacking. Use signets when his fire stacks are getting above 5, also use ''feel the burn'' instead of earth sig. You will get 2 more fire auras from that in a quicker duration, which is 2 more clenses, and 2 more heals + more damage + fire aura to reapply your fire stacks (his signet spam will be clensing too.. but you have more auras+healing). Ether renewal is also a better heal to use after stuns, he has no way of CCing you, so its yet another clense, you also have elemental healing.

 

Option B (more risky, same setup as above. Start in earth, use blind first (might waste his earth sig), then use fire sig from range+hurl. You have to bank on him charging in, if he does, instantly overload earth, then cast ''feel the burn''. Keep tracking him, cast feel the burn again when its ready (dmg clense and healing while you overload+ you will get mag aura, more profit). If you get the root after overload, instantly swap to air BLIND and then try updraft (he may or may not have stability) but no worries, instantly swap to fire and start auto attacking (your root should still have 2 seconds left from the overload, or it got clensed but thats better than dmg being clensed). Swapping to fire will ofc give you fire aura again, Keep auto attacking and using signet, don't even waste time with dodges or abilities, they just slow your fire stacks down. When over load us up, you can hit it and then dodge cancel it for another fire aura, again its dmg+clense+heal. Its really just a fight of attrition... and a very boring one.

 

If he starts in fire and is just an auto attack spammer, do the same, you have more auras and mitigation. His extra condi does not matter if you are removing most of it, and unless he's actually good, he won't be able to sustain properly through combos, as he will proabbly waste them all on desperately spamming damage.

 

I would only use dragon and pheonix if you can abuse los, this means you may be able to apply condi, while he then can't. You also have to be alot more careful on a good cata, if he uses air jade before going into fire+fire jade, the condi will stack up very fast, you need to clense twise during that phase, but it happens fast, its not easy.

 

If you really want to go all out, play focus tempest as above, and then you have double the clenses through transmutes. The healing from auras+elemental mostly covers the white damage and condi dmg before clenses.

 

For other classes/specs the best bet is to have 2 stunbreaks, and power damage+ as much clense as you can get (no point relying on your own stuns, but root spam can work). Most can't get that much.. being why its OP as you can't really dodge auto attack spam.

Century support really is a hard counter to condi cata, but its difficult to play in group fights, and needs more help in peeling from power damage. If you can team up with a hybrid dps scepter tempest who still has aura share for -40 power damage, the duo would be pretty unstopable in good hands.

Edited July 15, 2023 by Flowki.7194

[MasterDeere.3417]

use signet or skill that make you attacks unblockables.

[Khalisto.5780]

If they're at same skill level as you it cant be done

[Yerlock.4678]

12 hours ago, felix.2386 said:

how do you kill signet cata?

Tbh you have to play a super burst meme build to kill it. It’s not going to be a viable high tier build in this meta, I wish I could say otherwise. This basically means Mesmer moa burst, or maybe zerker/thief/ maybe ranger? one shot builds of some kind. Other than that, there’s nothing in duels that beat it (until this coming Tuesday hopefully lol).

Edited July 15, 2023 by gmmg.9210