VISION asked me to remember you to give Rift Repair mastery skill to the new Skyscale too :)

[Natasjie.9245]

Unless you want us to conclude that the SotO collection to get Skyscale is a big scam since for getting Vision legendary accessory you will have to unlock the old Skyscale anyway at some point....

This is something that imo should be absolutely fixed or many players that are happy to get quick access to skyscale will be infuriated when they realize the thing.

You can add some of those old rifts in the new maps too...shouldn't be hard i think. For the lore you could say the're weaker rifts that will not 'erode' the boundary between the worlds for like years, but they still must be plugged. Or something like that

Edited September 19, 2023 by Natasjie.9245

[Luthan.5236]

Not needed. Can be exclusive to the old skyscale since it does not add that much that the players with the SotO-only skyscale would miss out on. And if it is for the vision - when they already need skyscale the old (which is good - since legendary stuff should need some work) way then they can get the rift thing jus with that as well.

[Zebulous.2934]

With so many legendary weapons and armors I would have expected them to add another trinket and ring by now.  I guess legendary relics have got the devs distracted.  Oh well.

[Blacklust.4638]

9 hours ago, Luthan.5236 said:

Not needed. Can be exclusive to the old skyscale since it does not add that much that the players with the SotO-only skyscale would miss out on. And if it is for the vision - when they already need skyscale the old (which is good - since legendary stuff should need some work) way then they can get the rift thing jus with that as well.

I completly agree. Work for the legendary trinket like we all did and do all content that we had to do. 

 

Its a game! Play it!

[Arianth Moonlight.6453]

Vision will be the last legendary I craft before the release of the Legendary Relic. Luckily, I decided to unlock the Skyscale months ago, so now I only need to worry about grinding materials. I fail to see how SotO has anything to do with Vision.

[Natasjie.9245]

apparently noone understood the point

[QueenKeriti.5176]

Kind of unsurprising that a LWS4 legendary item would require LWS4 masteries.

[Sobx.1758]

Not sure why you should now get a partial skip for a season4 legendary just because you already got an easier access to skyscale through soto?

Edited September 20, 2023 by Sobx.1758

[Omega.6801]

On 9/19/2023 at 7:27 PM, Zebulous.2934 said:

I guess legendary relics have got the devs distracted.  Oh well.

I'm still convinced they didn't think about a legendary relic before the backlash on the forums made them realize that it is needed.

But On point, I'm kinda with Sobx.1758 on this one.

[Taydon Gambit.1506]

I just realized this as well… really sad that you to complete a achievements to get a skyscale that you already have! 
 

i wouldnt mind if we had to an achievement to unlock the masteries but having to multiple achievements to unlock a mount i already have makes no sense….

 

i am a newer player, so i didnt even know about 2 ways to get a skyscale, i did the SoTo as that is when i started playing (maybe month before, but wasnt even at a point i knew about unlocking that nount)

 

if got the skyscale the old way, you dont have to unlock it again to gain the new SoTo masteries?

 

 

 

 

[Linken.6345]

7 minutes ago, Taydon Gambit.1506 said:

I just realized this as well… really sad that you to complete a achievements to get a skyscale that you already have! 
 

i wouldnt mind if we had to an achievement to unlock the masteries but having to multiple achievements to unlock a mount i already have makes no sense….

 

i am a newer player, so i didnt even know about 2 ways to get a skyscale, i did the SoTo as that is when i started playing (maybe month before, but wasnt even at a point i knew about unlocking that nount)

 

if got the skyscale the old way, you dont have to unlock it again to gain the new SoTo masteries?

 

 

 

 

Not sure you have to unlock it to do the new skin collection tho.

[Taydon Gambit.1506]

45 minutes ago, Linken.6345 said:

Not sure you have to unlock it to do the new skin collection tho.

I get it, not saying just unlock mastery, but doing achievements to unlock a mount we already have unlocked is silly.  I wouldn’t mind having to an achievement to unlock the masteries

 

mmo always have to adjust content to help get new players engaged, there is always power creep.  I am moving from ESO on console to GW2, ESO just released a class that melts ads… it happens:)

 

i really like gw2, eventually i guess i will have to unlock it a second time

[IAmNotMatthew.1058]

On 10/21/2023 at 10:50 PM, Taydon Gambit.1506 said:

I get it, not saying just unlock mastery, but doing achievements to unlock a mount we already have unlocked is silly.  I wouldn’t mind having to an achievement to unlock the masteries

 

mmo always have to adjust content to help get new players engaged, there is always power creep.  I am moving from ESO on console to GW2, ESO just released a class that melts ads… it happens:)

 

i really like gw2, eventually i guess i will have to unlock it a second time

There already are achievements to unlock those masteries. The ones you got to skip with Soto.

People who already had the Skyscale had to do A New Friend to be able to do A New Look.

Another thing, Vision is an LWS4 Legendary, that's why you need to do the original collection to get the Mastery unlocked. Anet has said that when the Soto-Skyscale was mentioned that people who get the Skyscale through Soto will not unlocked the LWS4 mastery track.. since obviously the Soto method is quite a bit easier.

[Eloc Freidon.5692]

The old Skyscale unlock is like a money and time sink reward for getting access to the Vision collections. It was like how you had to do all the meta map collections to get access to Aurora collections.

Unlock old Skyscale method anyways. It is worth it.

[Glego.8320]

I think new players will never want to do the vision because of this problem.

what's the reason for making the old skyscale boring as hell when you already have one?

[Forgotten Legend.9281]

On 10/21/2023 at 2:53 PM, Taydon Gambit.1506 said:

if got the skyscale the old way, you dont have to unlock it again to gain the new SoTo masteries?

the SotO masteries ONLY apply to the SotO maps until you complete the unlock achievement. If you're (the person who unlocked Skyscale the old way) okay with NOT being able to use fireball and updrafts and ley line riding everywhere outside of SotO maps, then you're fine.

Edited November 15, 2023 by Forgotten Legend.9281

[Hennda din Akass.7145]

The problem about not having "rift repair" avail for "new" SotO skyscale is much larger than the vision items.

No rift repair means no Legendary Leyline Anomaly hunting, thus no Beetle Saddle and obviously no Beetle. Therefore several map can't be completed because no beetle avail to break walls... and so on, those are but a couple of examples.

So yes, 

On 9/19/2023 at 2:46 PM, Natasjie.9245 said:

... This is something that imo should be absolutely fixed or many players that are happy to get quick access to skyscale will be infuriated when they realize the thing.

I am not very happy.

I feel that the "old" masteries should be available to the "new" skyscales, maybe at a higher mastery points costs, maybe after an achievement completion in the Living World S4 maps, but not after being forced to re-tame re-equip re-feed re-whatever a mount I've already have.

[IAmNotMatthew.1058]

8 hours ago, Hennda din Akass.7145 said:

The problem about not having "rift repair" avail for "new" SotO skyscale is much larger than the vision items.

No rift repair means no Legendary Leyline Anomaly hunting, thus no Beetle Saddle and obviously no Beetle. Therefore several map can't be completed because no beetle avail to break walls... and so on, those are but a couple of examples.

So yes, 

I am not very happy.

I feel that the "old" masteries should be available to the "new" skyscales, maybe at a higher mastery points costs, maybe after an achievement completion in the Living World S4 maps, but not after being forced to re-tame re-equip re-feed re-whatever a mount I've already have.

That's the exchange for a much easier Skyscale acquisition. People wanted easier Skyscale, Anet gave them an easier Skyscale without actively making the older method - the way the majority got theirs - a waste. 

EDIT:
Also, who would have thought that after Anet gives in and gives people the option to get the Skyscale easier people would be complaining that their easier method doesn't give them everything people who did the - now - harder method have?

Edited January 7 by IAmNotMatthew.1058

[Shuzuru.3651]

3 hours ago, Hennda din Akass.7145 said:

The problem about not having "rift repair" avail for "new" SotO skyscale is much larger than the vision items.

No rift repair means no Legendary Leyline Anomaly hunting, thus no Beetle Saddle and obviously no Beetle. Therefore several map can't be completed because no beetle avail to break walls... and so on, those are but a couple of examples.

Nonsense, the Beetle was there many month before the skyscale even exist, so many month before rift repair exist.

I don't see the link with the Legendary anomaly, it was there before mount even exists.

[Sobx.1758]

59 minutes ago, Shuzuru.3651 said:

Nonsense, the Beetle was there many month before the skyscale even exist, so many month before rift repair exist.

I don't see the link with the Legendary anomaly, it was there before mount even exists.

I'm also wondering what he's even talking about. Hope he can provide some links and explain how sksycale is needed there at all.

Edited January 7 by Sobx.1758

[synk.6907]

On 11/15/2023 at 12:43 AM, Forgotten Legend.9281 said:

the SotO masteries ONLY apply to the SotO maps until you complete the unlock achievement. If you're (the person who unlocked Skyscale the old way) okay with NOT being able to use fireball and updrafts and ley line riding everywhere outside of SotO maps, then you're fine.

And Bacon to You, FL! Not sure what you meant with this -- were you claiming that until the achievement "A New Friend" is completed that SoTO Skyscale masteries will not work outside of the Horn of Maguuma maps?

If so, that is incorrect. I haven't bothered to complete the collections, and my "old" skyscale is using updrafts (e.g. HoT maps) and spewing fireballs elsewhere no problem.

Edited January 7 by synk.6907

[Dayra.7405]

On 9/19/2023 at 2:46 PM, Natasjie.9245 said:

VISION asked me to remember you to give Rift Repair mastery skill to the new Skyscale too 🙂

You got it wrong, the LS4 Legendary Vision ask you to do the LS4 way of skyscale as well. And it's not the only LS4 addition to the skyscale. If you want (any/all of) them, do both ways, as others like me already did.

Edited January 7 by Dayra.7405

[Teknomancer.4895]

10 hours ago, Hennda din Akass.7145 said:

No rift repair means no Legendary Leyline Anomaly hunting, thus no Beetle Saddle and obviously no Beetle.

It is possible to join an anomaly event and get it that way; that's how I got the needed item.

[Dayra.7405]

10 hours ago, Hennda din Akass.7145 said:

No rift repair means no Legendary Leyline Anomaly hunting, thus no Beetle Saddle and obviously no Beetle.

This must be nonsense, the beetle is LS4.3 launched on June 26, 2018, while the skyscale is LS4.6 launched on May 14, 2019

 

[synk.6907]

It is indeed not right. As Teknomancer.4895 pointed out, you get that by participating in the Legendary Anomaly fight, which is a world-boss style event that does not require a skyscale.

Edited January 7 by synk.6907