Sansar.1302 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Topic says it all, these classes( with elite specs ) are too powerful and easy to play they need to be nerfed. 3 3 3 24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanBB.4268 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Weird. I thought it was Thief, Ranger and Mesmer. Meh, nerf them all! /s 2 1 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedrik.3109 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Please elaborate, what makes those 3 so outrageous in your mind? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansar.1302 Posted December 6, 2023 Author Share Posted December 6, 2023 47 minutes ago, Jedrik.3109 said: Please elaborate, what makes those 3 so outrageous in your mind? Willbender, Harbinger and Catalysts 😉 3 1 1 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaiawolf.8261 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Sansar.1302 said: Topic says it all, these classes( with elite specs ) are too powerful and easy to play they need to be nerfed. Agreed, and while at it, please nerf warrior, revenant, thief, engineer, ranger, and mesmer. Thanks! 1 8 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnfall.9573 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) Let's Begin By Removing Guild Wars 2 11 Years+ Most Toxic Profession - Thief Profession Edited December 7, 2023 by Burnfall.9573 3 3 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draxynnic.3719 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Rock is OP, please nerf. Paper is fine. Sincerely, Scissors. 16 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAlcedo.3281 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 10 hours ago, Sansar.1302 said: Willbender, Harbinger and Catalysts 😉 4 words. Impressive. Maybe elaborate 50 more times and we get something useful. 1 2 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirvaleen.1379 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 You want 3 classes nerfed because you don't like one of each of their elite specs ? It's nice to talk about the weird dreams we have I guess 🤷♂️ 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeTect.5918 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 13 hours ago, Sansar.1302 said: Willbender, Harbinger and Catalysts 😉 So first you said that its guardian, necro and ele. So you want guardian, necro and ele to be nerfed because in your opinion 1 e spec of these classes is overperforming? Please... Want to add more Infos? WvW? PvP? PvE? Roaming, zerging? Group play pve, solo pve? Support wise? Damage wise? Defense wise? And why are these overperforming in your opinion? Please in more than 1 Word. Posts like yours in this discussion are just straight up useless. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beddo.1907 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 With each post I'm more convinced Sansar is just a troll alt account. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stx.4857 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Great points, I’m convinced… 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 9 hours ago, Beddo.1907 said: With each post I'm more convinced Sansar is just a troll alt account. Probably someone that fails hard against these classes in PVP is all. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasai.3549 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Topic in fact doesn't say it all. 1. What reason are they easy or powerful 2. What mode 3. What spec 4. What part of the spec that allows 1. to occur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyant.1327 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 There is certainly an imbalance amongst e-specs but I'd rather see things get evened out vs. nerfed into the ground. Most of the time its imbalanced distribution of Quickness, Alacrity (and to a lesser degree Might & Fury) A class who has easy uptime to Quickness or Alacrity will almost always be more powerful then one that doesn't. Assuming basic competence. If you can hit faster and more frequently, 9 out of 10 you will have the advantage. Personally I say just abolish Quickness entirely and make it the default attack speed. Might require some damage coefficient adjustments in PvP/WvW but I think it'd be worth it. It might make some support angry, but the game would feel better for newer players, would require less reliance on one buff, and just free up for more creative build processes. Alacrity while I'd love an easy source/relic etc. I would say leave in place as to still give support some level of purpose. As while quicker skill cooldowns are still OP, its still support reliant usually vs. how some DPS focused classes can have self 100% quickness uptime & others its just not a realistic possibility. But its the overpowered relation of the boons imo. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirDoNKeY.4578 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 What did elementalist do that requires a nerf? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadnir.5038 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 1 hour ago, SirDoNKeY.4578 said: What did elementalist do that requires a nerf? Elementalist was quietly taking a stroll in a empty street, minding it's own business, and all of a sudden... Baam! It happened! Elementalist had to be nerfed! More seriously, it's just salt. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnfall.9573 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dadnir.5038 said: Elementalist was quietly taking a stroll in a empty street, minding it's own business, and all of a sudden... Baam! It happened! Elementalist had to be nerfed! More seriously, it's just salt. Elementalist Profession is past due for a complete redesign and rework. It is about time to make it happen, seriously!! Edited December 8, 2023 by Burnfall.9573 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) ^^ Seriously, anyone that thinks Anet is going to redesign and rework a whole class at this point is out of their mind. Seriously. #badacting Edited December 8, 2023 by Obtena.7952 6 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenaSPACE.6028 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 I'm trying to figure out what class this guy mains... What classes don't like fighting eles, necros or guardians? Engi as a class doesn't like fighting necros since they like to use boons to balance out their jack-of-all-trades playstyle. Maybe Mesmer? I'm not a masterful Mesmer, but I feel like they don't like getting bursted very much, which two of these guys can do, and necro doesn't go down to conditions too much. Can't be warriors, they eat necros for breakfast, with all thier access to cc, and I feel like they can break even with guard and ele. Rev? They're basically similar to engi in terms of weakness, I think. I don't feel like ranger has any issues with necros or ele's. I'm not sure about the guardian match-up. So that just leaves... Thief ! A class that doesn't like the high burst potential of an elementalist not caught flat footed, and don't like the potential staying power any of these classes have. I diagnose you with thief player, good sir! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draxynnic.3719 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 4 hours ago, BenaSPACE.6028 said: I'm trying to figure out what class this guy mains... What classes don't like fighting eles, necros or guardians? Engi as a class doesn't like fighting necros since they like to use boons to balance out their jack-of-all-trades playstyle. Maybe Mesmer? I'm not a masterful Mesmer, but I feel like they don't like getting bursted very much, which two of these guys can do, and necro doesn't go down to conditions too much. Can't be warriors, they eat necros for breakfast, with all thier access to cc, and I feel like they can break even with guard and ele. Rev? They're basically similar to engi in terms of weakness, I think. I don't feel like ranger has any issues with necros or ele's. I'm not sure about the guardian match-up. So that just leaves... Thief ! A class that doesn't like the high burst potential of an elementalist not caught flat footed, and don't like the potential staying power any of these classes have. I diagnose you with thief player, good sir! Based on what I've seen elsewhere, OP seems very invested in pewpew ranger. The specific elite specialisations being called out seem to be those that are good at surviving a longbow burst and then either beating a longbow ranger at their own game, or closing rapidly to deliver their own burst. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 4 hours ago, BenaSPACE.6028 said: I'm trying to figure out what class this guy mains... I get the feeling it really doesn't matter. It's probably NOT the class that is the problem here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadnir.5038 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 7 hours ago, BenaSPACE.6028 said: I'm trying to figure out what class this guy mains... They are a "ranger main". 3 hours ago, draxynnic.3719 said: Based on what I've seen elsewhere, OP seems very invested in pewpew ranger. The specific elite specialisations being called out seem to be those that are good at surviving a longbow burst and then either beating a longbow ranger at their own game, or closing rapidly to deliver their own burst. If I recall properly they prefer Axe or at least it was difficult to make them consider any other weapon in order to fix some of their build's shortcomings a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prototypedragon.1406 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 https://youtu.be/uZ3UKOuIeDI?si=0aw75KOnMw9A4WDO 🤭 they may be a few years 2 late 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansar.1302 Posted December 9, 2023 Author Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Dadnir.5038 said: They are a "ranger main". If I recall properly they prefer Axe or at least it was difficult to make them consider any other weapon in order to fix some of their build's shortcomings a while back. Yes i play ranger , no it dont play Long bow ( not the last 3 years ) Yes i play a bit with main hand axe ( but not only that ) Willbender, Harbinger and Catalysts have to much inbuilt defence an sustain in wvw This is a wvw only isue as in spvp they are actualy quite ballanced (habinger and willbender migth even need a little buff in spvp) The reason is that stats in spvp is way more resticted than in wvw. There are other strong builds in wvw too but they dont reatch the op state that these 3 do( druid, thief , scrapper , vidicator ) Been a long while since there have been any focus on wvw in the patches. Been playing a lot of catalyst myself bc it is fun to be that powerfull and melt 2-3 ppl at once but i dont think it is good for the game. 2 1 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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