WhiteSmoke.5926 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 It's been two weeks, and I have no reason to go back to Janthir. I've completed all the achievements, tested most of the spears I was interested in, and the new relics are... as underwhelming as always. This is the first time I'm playing a Guild Wars 2 expansion that doesn't feel like Guild Wars 2. It’s more of a solo RPG now. Most of the resources have been poured into the homestead, which I don't care about (and you probably won’t either in a month because, like most poor people, you won't be able to afford this content). The combat system feels like it's in maintenance mode now: Where are the new runes? Where is the new food? Where are the new stat combinations? Where are the reworks for dusty features like utilities, runes (the first rework implementation is crap), fishing (I still lose charges when I’m forced to swap maps), fractals/infusions (helloooo!), the reward system in general (aren’t you tired of the game feeling like an incremental game?), and the stat imbalance (3 stats for power vs. 2 stats for condition damage, etc.)? This expansion is completely lacking in innovation. In two months, this expansion will feel like Grothmar Valley (at least in Grothmar, the meta event gives you valuable items!). I remember that Heart of Thorns brought elite specializations, break bars, meta events, raids, a new boon system, a trinity system, 4-stat combination gear, masteries, a NEW CLASS, the guild hall system, fractal reworks, adventures, map bonus rewards... and Path of Fire added mounts, barriers, bounties, and more of what HoT offered. And not just at launch, but with every patch/episode! Everything was on the table, there was a determination to push this game far forward. Even Secrets of the Obscure changed the rune system, added relics, and revamped the old and putride daily login rewards system. It wasn’t much, but it was something. Is the future of Open World content really just going to be no meta events or a leech fiesta? For the first time, I can’t recommend an expansion to my friends. "Come spend all your gold on the homing system instead of making your character progress? UwU" Do you really think you’ll attract new players with story content when there are so many insane solo RPGs released every month? It makes no sense, GW2 is not competitive in that area. Two weeks of massive gaslighting isn’t going to change my opinion. The community has never been this quiet for an expansion launch (I’m talking about the small content creators, not the paid ones), and it’s not because of WoW! 13 2 7 68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gehenna.3625 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Dunno, I feel like they could've given us a bit more info on what is needed to create the legendary spear but this expansion does bring Homesteading and a revamped mount that opens up new possibilities. Also there are many new skills and skill mechanics introduced with the spear. So that's innovation. It will also bring a new raid wing. You may not care about all of that but then a lot people didn't care much for the relic system. It sounds more to me that this expansion isn't providing you with what you personally care about and therefore the expansion is doomed. Not very sound reasoning. 29 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anninke.7469 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 So, if I say I'm happy with it and I'm having fun not blazing through everything like a harebrained comet, is it a valid opinion or am I trying to gaslight you? Just to be sure... 32 7 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericpeggy.8206 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 According to how many useless runes and stats combinations we already have, more runes and stat combinations won't change anything unless they rework it. And I pretty sure they won't. 14 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAlcedo.3281 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 DOOOOOOOOOOOOM! oh wait. DHUUUUUUUUUUUUM! 3 23 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notebene.3190 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 I think if I were a rapper, I'd choose the name Papa Ganda. 1 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arazoth.7290 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1 hour ago, WhiteSmoke.5926 said: It's been two weeks, and I have no reason to go back to Janthir. I've completed all the achievements, tested most of the spears I was interested in, and the new relics are... as underwhelming as always. This is the first time I'm playing a Guild Wars 2 expansion that doesn't feel like Guild Wars 2. It’s more of a solo RPG now. Most of the resources have been poured into the homestead, which I don't care about (and you probably won’t either in a month because, like most poor people, you won't be able to afford this content). The combat system feels like it's in maintenance mode now: Where are the new runes? Where is the new food? Where are the new stat combinations? Where are the reworks for dusty features like utilities, runes (the first rework implementation is crap), fishing (I still lose charges when I’m forced to swap maps), fractals/infusions (helloooo!), the reward system in general (aren’t you tired of the game feeling like an incremental game?), and the stat imbalance (3 stats for power vs. 2 stats for condition damage, etc.)? This expansion is completely lacking in innovation. In two months, this expansion will feel like Grothmar Valley (at least in Grothmar, the meta event gives you valuable items!). I remember that Heart of Thorns brought elite specializations, break bars, meta events, raids, a new boon system, a trinity system, 4-stat combination gear, masteries, a NEW CLASS, the guild hall system, fractal reworks, adventures, map bonus rewards... and Path of Fire added mounts, barriers, bounties, and more of what HoT offered. And not just at launch, but with every patch/episode! Everything was on the table, there was a determination to push this game far forward. Even Secrets of the Obscure changed the rune system, added relics, and revamped the old and putride daily login rewards system. It wasn’t much, but it was something. Is the future of Open World content really just going to be no meta events or a leech fiesta? For the first time, I can’t recommend an expansion to my friends. "Come spend all your gold on the homing system instead of making your character progress? UwU" Do you really think you’ll attract new players with story content when there are so many insane solo RPGs released every month? It makes no sense, GW2 is not competitive in that area. Two weeks of massive gaslighting isn’t going to change my opinion. The community has never been this quiet for an expansion launch (I’m talking about the small content creators, not the paid ones), and it’s not because of WoW! You don't need that much gold to make nice things=> creativity and resourcefullness for homestead building goes a long way !!!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luthan.5236 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 The expansion has the focus on Homesteads - a thing a lot of people wanted. And I don't think it is good to bloat the combat system with more and mote stas combinatoins and runes and stuff. (Unless they plan to give a system to freely generate own stats combinations.) In the end most people might stay with a few that pro build websites recommend. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic.1897 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 This thread is probably the worst take on GW I've ever seen 17 5 3 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karissa.9035 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 they still haven't given us back pet summons in relics, Arenanet why ;sss 8 1 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotride.2187 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 (edited) You should've told ANET. So that they spared themselves the effort of making it, and all. Kinda late now, isn't it. Edited September 4 by Hotride.2187 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNurgle.4825 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 3 hours ago, WhiteSmoke.5926 said: Where are the new runes? Where is the new food? Where are the new stat combinations? Please no. Like non of this is actually useful in MMO older than 10 years. 4 hours ago, WhiteSmoke.5926 said: Where are the reworks for dusty features like utilities, runes (the first rework implementation is crap), fishing (I still lose charges when I’m forced to swap maps), fractals/infusions (helloooo!), the reward system in general (aren’t you tired of the game feeling like an incremental game?), and the stat imbalance (3 stats for power vs. 2 stats for condition damage, etc.)? Please yes. Issue with most changes above is "feedback" from "veteran" players as we saw when they introduced relic system. 4 hours ago, WhiteSmoke.5926 said: This expansion is completely lacking in innovation. Depend what do you see as innovation. Like gliding and mounts can be seen as innovation and it is same for homestead. It would be good to rework boons, stats and fractal infusions, but it will not bring enough new players and "whales" will be not happy with any change as in any MMO. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vavume.8065 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 (edited) I will remember this expac for giving me a backpack precursor 9 months early when I cant do anything with it, and me salvaging it because I did not realise it was a precursor... Edited September 4 by Vavume.8065 1 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 5 minutes ago, Vavume.8065 said: I will remember this expac for giving me a backpack precursor 9 months early when I cant do anything with it, and me salvaging it because I did not realise it was a precursor... Reading is hard? 11 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crono.4197 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Tomorrow it's my turn for the next doom post, okay? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithral.8516 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 >25% of expansion released >WAHHHH EXPANSION IS DOOMED GW2 IS DEAD 6 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaiawolf.8261 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 6 hours ago, WhiteSmoke.5926 said: It's been two weeks, and I have no reason to go back to Janthir. I've completed all the achievements... Go outside maybe? 🤔 2 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSmoke.5926 Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 (edited) Look at the face of twitch 2 weeks after the launch at 7PM CET The expac is already dead Edited September 4 by WhiteSmoke.5926 3 3 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batel.9206 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 "Omega" doomed? Gah, I swear, I'm Gen Z and I don't understand half the slang terms being bandied about today... Why not "alpha" doomed? How about "omicron" doomed? Pi? Theta? Epsilon?? 🤦♀️ Anyway. I rather like the slower pace of this expansion. It was advertised as such, and I greatly appreciate the chance to roam around the maps without a sense of impending dread/urgency. (Amnytas is beautiful! ...have fun with a demon invasion. Skywatch Archipelago is fascinating! ...Lhyr and Mabon are yelling at you on comms every time the meta pops up. EoD's Seitung Province looks nice! ...there are pirates every five feet.) Perhaps some of the rewards for events could be adjusted - looking at you, Of Mists and Monsters - but I don't see a problem with the laid-back, go-at-your-own-pace feel. 6 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaiawolf.8261 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1 minute ago, Batel.9206 said: Lhyr and Mabon are yelling at you on comms every time the meta pops up. Hmm, you might have a poi... "A hunter!" Then again... 🙃 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliamRationem.5172 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 6 hours ago, WhiteSmoke.5926 said: It's been two weeks, and I have no reason to go back to Janthir. I've completed all the achievements, tested most of the spears I was interested in, and the new relics are... as underwhelming as always. This is the first time I'm playing a Guild Wars 2 expansion that doesn't feel like Guild Wars 2. It’s more of a solo RPG now. Most of the resources have been poured into the homestead, which I don't care about (and you probably won’t either in a month because, like most poor people, you won't be able to afford this content). The combat system feels like it's in maintenance mode now: Where are the new runes? Where is the new food? Where are the new stat combinations? Where are the reworks for dusty features like utilities, runes (the first rework implementation is crap), fishing (I still lose charges when I’m forced to swap maps), fractals/infusions (helloooo!), the reward system in general (aren’t you tired of the game feeling like an incremental game?), and the stat imbalance (3 stats for power vs. 2 stats for condition damage, etc.)? This expansion is completely lacking in innovation. In two months, this expansion will feel like Grothmar Valley (at least in Grothmar, the meta event gives you valuable items!). I remember that Heart of Thorns brought elite specializations, break bars, meta events, raids, a new boon system, a trinity system, 4-stat combination gear, masteries, a NEW CLASS, the guild hall system, fractal reworks, adventures, map bonus rewards... and Path of Fire added mounts, barriers, bounties, and more of what HoT offered. And not just at launch, but with every patch/episode! Everything was on the table, there was a determination to push this game far forward. Even Secrets of the Obscure changed the rune system, added relics, and revamped the old and putride daily login rewards system. It wasn’t much, but it was something. Is the future of Open World content really just going to be no meta events or a leech fiesta? For the first time, I can’t recommend an expansion to my friends. "Come spend all your gold on the homing system instead of making your character progress? UwU" Do you really think you’ll attract new players with story content when there are so many insane solo RPGs released every month? It makes no sense, GW2 is not competitive in that area. Two weeks of massive gaslighting isn’t going to change my opinion. The community has never been this quiet for an expansion launch (I’m talking about the small content creators, not the paid ones), and it’s not because of WoW! I don't agree with everything, but you have some legitimate concerns, although you'll get nowhere speaking critically of an expansion on its home turf just two weeks after release (the copium is strong at this point!). I expect once people come down a bit and start to evaluate this expansion objectively, more will come to some of the same conclusions you have. But right now they're having a blast playing on Lowland Shore! (Glub!) (Glub!) 2 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vavume.8065 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 39 minutes ago, Linken.6345 said: Reading is hard? I did not read it, since it looked like trash... instant salvage. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gehenna.3625 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 13 minutes ago, WhiteSmoke.5926 said: Look at the face of twitch 2 weeks after the launch at 7PM ECT The expac is already dead Sure, cherry pick the less popular channels, why don't you? Where's Mukluk, Mightyteapot, Laranity? Their streams get way more viewers. It's ok, you can be upset all by yourself. No need to drag anyone else into it, just so feel justified to rant here. 9 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSmoke.5926 Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 Just now, Gehenna.3625 said: Sure, cherry pick the less popular channels, why don't you? Where's Mukluk, Mightyteapot, Laranity? Their streams get way more viewers. It's ok, you can be upset all by yourself. No need to drag anyone else into it, just so feel justified to rant here. They dont stream because no hype, it's the front page. I dont chery pick anything 4 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaiawolf.8261 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 32 minutes ago, WhiteSmoke.5926 said: They dont stream because no hype, it's the front page. I dont chery pick anything At 1:00 p.m. ET? Of course they don't. That's like complaining nobody watches NFL on a Tuesday morning. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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