Staff Mesmer OP

[Bandlero.6312]

With all the complaints about Chrono, cheese, and crutch builds; so called "meta" - here's another build to consider.

Staff Mesmer. More specifically, Staff Mirage running Carrion Amulet. I might be inclined to share the build in-game if asked; can't remember the exact specifics on the top of my head to share here. No I'm not purposely running phantasms or clones or clone-spamming; in-fact my heal, 2 utilities, and my elite are the mirage skills. Most matches I average anywhere from 250-400k damage.

_{This match ended in a time-out; the reason for that and the unusually high damage stat is a guardian that literally took no damage and face-tanked 5v1 the entire match; and was constantly insta-rezzing teammates that would drop 2 seconds later. So basically, an entire match against unkillable practice targets.}

[zoopop.5630]

ya we get it, it's broken and it's been like this for months. Noting much we can do till another 3 months from now after next season is over sadly.

[Trevor Boyer.6524]

You know, Goku wasn't strong because he was a Saiyan. He was strong because he was a Mesmer:

[mortrialus.3062]

If you're talking about the standard Carrion Ineptitude build, yeah it does a lot of damage. The confusion and torment can be played around fairly easily, but Phantasmal Mage+The Prestige from torch hit like a truck and should get trimmed by a couple thousand.

I don't know what that match and this thread are suppose to prove though. 25% of team damage and 800k on a time out against by your admission endless punching bags isn't really all that impressive.

[Airdive.2613]

Basically, so OP it can't carry a match.

[AliamRationem.5172]

@"Bandlero.6312" said:With all the complaints about Chrono, cheese, and crutch builds; so called "meta" - here's another build to consider.

Staff Mesmer. More specifically, Staff Mirage running Carrion Amulet. I might be inclined to share the build in-game if asked; can't remember the exact specifics on the top of my head to share here. No I'm not purposely running phantasms or clones or clone-spamming; in-fact my heal, 2 utilities, and my elite are the mirage skills. Most matches I average anywhere from 250-400k damage.

_{This match ended in a time-out; the reason for that and the unusually high damage stat is a guardian that literally took no damage and face-tanked 5v1 the entire match; and was constantly insta-rezzing teammates that would drop 2 seconds later. So basically, an entire match against unkillable practice targets.}

All I see is that staff mesmer is too weak to kill a firebrand and will sit there dealing damage to no effect for an entire match.

[Kako.1930]

The title says that mesmer is op then the post says that the enemy guard was unkillable and won the match for the enemy team... I'm confused.

[Badcat.7320]

Will always be strongest class.

[sephiroth.4217]

Lots of damage isn't a good thing, it means you had extremely prolonged fights....

But yes I agree, staff mes is OP with the right build.

Not sure what build you run, but you have lots of disrupts and some boon strip to stop those FB's from rezzing.

[BikeIsGone.8675]

I dont get the entirety of this post....like what exactly are you trying to point out here?!

• Carrion mirage with Staff (at least as one weaponset) already is meta and everybody knows the issues with it.
• 25% of teamdmg surely is good....but not OP (especially since we dont how many other DPS besides yourself where on that team).
• You lost
• And I dont see your name at that leaderboard screen whatsoever

[Sergo.2867]

Talk to me about why I should love staff. I only use it while me scepter/torch skills are on cooldown, and I put the chaos storm on downed players. The 2-evade is nice for getting out of scourge circles. What else am I missing?

[apharma.3741]

I wonder if he realises how slow the staff ambush travels where it can essentially be ignored if you are strafing. Also yes as others mention I’m very confused by everything about this post, it follows no reasoning or logical steps at all.

[mortrialus.3062]

@Sergo.2867 said:Talk to me about why I should love staff. I only use it while me scepter/torch skills are on cooldown, and I put the chaos storm on downed players. The 2-evade is nice for getting out of scourge circles. What else am I missing?

Phase retreat is absurdly good. Not just kiting but you can use it to blink into all sorts of crazy areas and shortcuts and even just getting around the map quicker. Phase retreat on it's own justifies staff. But phantasmal warlocks are nice and gives you two clones. Potentially getting aegis, daze and weakness on chaos storm is also a super nice bonus. Like check out metabattle's kite spots page and look at all the cool ones there are for phase retreat.

[Vieux P.1238]

@"sephiroth.4217" said:Lots of damage isn't a good thing, it means you had extremely prolonged fights....

But yes I agree, staff mes is OP with the right build.

Not sure what build you run, but you have lots of disrupts and some boon strip to stop those FB's from rezzing.

No wonder it's so OP it's Death by Snu Snu :dizzy:

[BikeIsGone.8675]

@"Sergo.2867" said:Talk to me about why I should love staff. I only use it while me scepter/torch skills are on cooldown, and I put the chaos storm on downed players. The 2-evade is nice for getting out of scourge circles. What else am I missing?

You mean like how absurdly good phase retreat with its multi-purpose use is? Or how chaos armor basically is a huge "fuck off" to all power builds? Or how good of a zoning tool chaos storm is? or how pWarlock gives you 2 clones with one skill and is acutally pretty good dmg?

Ye, I wonder why Staff has been on almost every meta build mesmer has ever had.

[Sampson.2403]

Staff ambush is great for covering condis

[Dr Meta.3158]

I'm also confused here.

Is this really a nerf firebrand thread?

Also staff is like the weakest weapon on mesmer for damage.

[Exciton.8942]

825k damage and only 25% of the team....Wow, must be a war of bunkers.

[Abelisk.4527]

@Exciton.8942 said:825k damage and only 25% of the team....Wow, must be a war of bunkers.

They probably fought at mid all game.

[rank eleven monk.9502]

You can do 800k damage with literally any build that has proper sustain in that scenario.

People who want to give rewards based on top stats should bookmark this thread and remember it forever that even if you did 800k damage and 350+ seconds of offsense you can still be useless.

[Jalal.6783]

you did all that damage and have only 6 kills? stop fighting bunkers and get to where you need to be, not farming numbers