Tayga.3192 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 This page is intentionally left blank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 the changes are invisible, similar to mesmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taril.8619 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Noice, no nerfs! B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K THEN.5162 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 We didn't lose a dodge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curunen.8729 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 I can appreciate the lockdown situation having consequences.But last of any mesmer changes was February 25th "big" patch, 3 months ago.Would have at least hoped for small fixes and design tweaks in the meantime, iterating towards some vision.I haven't taken a break from this game because mesmer is unplayable - on the contrary, for the game modes I could still be bothered to play, condi mirage was still laughably strong in wvw thanks to unnerfed energy sigils and food, and at least mirage was still in its pre-nerf godlike state in pve.No, I've taken a break because I'm bored... bored of the lack of care and class vision for the big design changes to encourage a wide range of build variety. Where is the incentive for players to experiment and diversify? There's no coherent vision for this class, to establish a clear foundation to enable that variety.The m.o. of "nerf everything around the meta into mediocrity, leaving people with essentially one way to play, then nerf the meta in ways that still only incentivise one way to play, but do nothing about all the collateral damage" is sad.For the first time I'm actually not sure about buying the next expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted May 27, 2020 Author Share Posted May 27, 2020 @"Curunen.8729" said:But last of any mesmer changes was February 25th "big" patch, 3 months ago.To be honest, they only touched condi thief, lrod ele??, ranger, holosmith, core necro, condi revenant and firebrand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICENIKESHOE.7128 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Maybe they're just saving up the nerf tokens for mesmer's third elite spec? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infusion.7149 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 I really wish chrono had access to the core CC shatter if no clones are up , at least in PvE. That way you could shatter for damage and then actually be able to CC with F3 shatters. Losing distortion is already a heavy penalty.A shatter-less chrono plays a lot like a bad core guardian , shroudless necro with no shades, or two attunement ele. Especially in openworld if you're power spec, you shatter and then can't do anything until you have clones from sword 3 (llusionary Leap) / GS 2 (Mirror Blade) or mirror images. You could get clone on dodge via Deceptive Evasion but then you lose a hefty amount of damage from Superiority Complex (multiplicative +15% crit with additional 10% vs <50% or disabled foes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortrialus.3062 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Mesmer is not getting buffed in PvP. Cmc and Ben have literally explicitly said this. More nerfs are in the pipeline. Cmc has also explicitly said this. If you poll the SPvP forum if they're happier now with Mesmers being, almost inarguably the weakest PvP class and representation plummetting the poll would have almost 90% "Yes".The developers are happy. The player base is happy with balance. It's over for mesmer. It's time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curunen.8729 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 @Tayga.3192 said:@"Curunen.8729" said:But last of any mesmer changes was February 25th "big" patch, 3 months ago.To be honest, they only touched condi thief, lrod ele??, ranger, holosmith, core necro, condi revenant and firebrand.True, it seems to be damage control on the outlier specs/builds that get moaned about most, but nothing beyond that sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossroads.5174 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 @"mortrialus.3062" said:Mesmer is not getting buffed in PvP. Cmc and Ben have literally explicitly said this. More nerfs are in the pipeline. Cmc has also explicitly said this. If you poll the SPvP forum if they're happier now with Mesmers being, almost inarguably the weakest PvP class and representation plummetting the poll would have almost 90% "Yes".Can you link the sources please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted May 27, 2020 Author Share Posted May 27, 2020 @Crossroads.5174 said:Can you link the sources please?It's from a Teapot stream, I bet nobody wants to go through 4-5 3hour streams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abelisk.5148 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 (Not) To brag, I 1v3'd in a silver/gold Ranked game as Power Mirage, so I think we're fine lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 @"LolLookAtMyAP.8394" said:(Not) To brag, I 1v3'd in a silver/gold Ranked game as Power Mirage, so I think we're fine lol...I 1v1d a few legendary rank people with core mesmer and won. Does that mean mesmer is ok? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossroads.5174 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 @Tayga.3192 said:@Crossroads.5174 said:Can you link the sources please?It's from a Teapot stream, I bet nobody wants to go through 4-5 3hour streamsI see. I remember having watched a good chunk of that stream, and the only thing I recall is that CMC was very evasive about Teapot's questions regarding mirage being nuked from orbit and chrono being utterly not viable. I may have missed the part where he talks about future nerfs to the class. If that would be the case, I wonder what could still be there for them to nerf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 @Crossroads.5174 said:I see. I remember having watched a good chunk of that stream, and the only thing I recall is that CMC was very evasive about Teapot's questions regarding mirage being nuked from orbit and chrono being utterly not viable. I may have missed the part where he talks about future nerfs to the class. If the would be the case, I wonder what could still be there for them to nerf.I don't think he is talking about that specific stream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phokus.8934 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 CMC said in a Tpot stream that Mesmer is getting buffed. I'm not going to link you the stream VOD or date just look for it yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 @phokus.8934 said:CMC said in a Tpot stream that Mesmer is getting buffed. I'm not going to link you the stream VOD or date just look for it yourself.ikr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincolnbeard.1735 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Tbf Mort gave more details, said it was 1 week or 1week and half before he posted that the first time and was a video in which teapot was doing pvp, so it narrows it down to like 3 videos.Very long videos that is.I cant even be bother to watch GW2 10min videos on YouTube, so not certainly 7hours ones.Still it's pretty clear to me that what he said was true, when devs won't even bother to fix a fucking tooltip, it obvious they won't do skill/trait buffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abelisk.5148 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 @Tayga.3192 said:@"LolLookAtMyAP.8394" said:(Not) To brag, I 1v3'd in a silver/gold Ranked game as Power Mirage, so I think we're fine lol...I 1v1d a few legendary rank people with core mesmer and won. Does that mean mesmer is ok? Nope. Well you just proved that, yes. It is okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables.4659 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 @mortrialus.3062 said:Mesmer is not getting buffed in PvP. Cmc and Ben have literally explicitly said this. More nerfs are in the pipeline. Cmc has also explicitly said this. Do you have sources to back up these two statements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scerevisiae.1972 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 @Infusion.7149 said:I really wish chrono had access to the core CC shatter if no clones are up , at least in PvE. That way you could shatter for damage and then actually be able to CC with F3 shatters. Losing distortion is already a heavy penalty.yeah i tried it, and it sucks hard. hated it.if you're a WVW player who wants to play mesmer you might as well stop playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadox.7834 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 @Jables.4659 said:@mortrialus.3062 said:Mesmer is not getting buffed in PvP. Cmc and Ben have literally explicitly said this. More nerfs are in the pipeline. Cmc has also explicitly said this. Do you have sources to back up these two statements? He doesn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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