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  • No, this game is it's own unique MMORPG (don't want to be like typical MMORPGs)

    No, thanks. When I want to PvP, there are other option already available.

  • Nash.3974Nash.3974 Member ✭✭✭
    Yes, I love dueling and would love to fight in any map any time!

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:
    First, it can't be "tested out for a week," because it involves way too much development effort to even make it available.

    Let's also get all the usual back & forth arguments out of the way by assuming that:

    • It's opt in only: unless you select the option, people cannot invite you to duel.
    • ANet figures out a way to have two people duel without leaving the instance, without others joining a scrum.
    • ANet figures out a way to either allow duelists to use PvP builds or can figure out how to balance PvE rules so that it's fair in a duel.
    • ANet adds enough support staff (which might be merely one or two people) to ensure that people aren't abusing chat to get duels ("coward, you better fight me!")
    • There are no extra rewards (not even AP) that would cause a whole new set of anti-dueling arguments to overwhelm conversations about rewards.

    I'll even throw in the possibility that I might personally like dueling, if ANet were the ones to implement. I didn't think I would like WvW (and I did). I didn't think I'd like mounts, and I love them. So maybe I might like dueling.

    But, the vast majority of people don't seem that much interested. So this ends up being a huge expenditure of resources to do it right, to benefit a fraction of the community. At a time when there are dozens of other features we want, this seems like a poor use of ANet's time.

    tl;dr I'm not entirely opposed. I just can't imagine that this would be on a priority list for discussing, never mind implementing.

    Uhm where exactly does it take way too much development effort to simply implement an extra ‘challenge to a duel‘ option when rightclicking someone’s name?
    Nobody needs an extra UI for duels. Just give us the option to have duels wherever we want, let it come with an option to disable getting duel request and everyone is happy. Never understood why people would be so against something some other people want. Especially if it doesn’t affect them. And yes it wouldn’t because I wouldn’t wanna get this without the autodecline option.

  • No, this game is it's own unique MMORPG (don't want to be like typical MMORPGs)

    Because the Devs have to change which Team players are on, and then change how the other Teams (players and NPCs/mobs) can interact with those Teams without changing how they interact with unchanged Teams.

  • @Nash.3974 said:
    Uhm where exactly does it take way too much development effort to simply implement an extra ‘challenge to a duel‘ option when rightclicking someone’s name?

    I don't know what to tell if you if you think it's free to add features.

    Nobody needs an extra UI for duels. Just give us the option to have duels wherever we want, let it come with an option to disable getting duel request and everyone is happy.

    Just that right-click option is a change to the UI. And what does it mean to "have duels wherever you want"? Does it take you to a pvp zone? If so, you already have that option by using a pvp room to duel. If it doesn't, how does the game prevent other people from participating? It's not a minor change to the game.

    Never understood why people would be so against something some other people want.

    I explained that I'm not against it. I might even like it. I don't think it's free and I'm sure ANet doesn't think it's free, so I think it's unlikely.

    Especially if it doesn’t affect them.

    But it does affect people, even with an "opt in only" feature. Just because people won't see prompts doesn't mean that duelers are honorable and won't taunt people in /map or /say.

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  • Dante.1763Dante.1763 Member ✭✭✭✭
    No, this game is it's own unique MMORPG (don't want to be like typical MMORPGs)

    @Donari.5237 said:
    It does affect them, though. Duelists seem to love dueling in crowded areas like banks, spamming effects all over people just trying to do business. Even with autodecline, duelists seem to like verbally harassing or emoting at those who aren't accepting the duels. (I speak from having played in WoW and ESO, both of which have open world dueling).

    Join a guild that has a working arena, hop in the ring with your opponent, and duel all you like.

    None of your options are "No, it leads to open world harassment and toxicity," so I didn't vote.

    I went ahead and voted no regardless, but these are the real reasons i voted no.

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  • Nash.3974Nash.3974 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2018
    Yes, I love dueling and would love to fight in any map any time!

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

    @Nash.3974 said:
    Uhm where exactly does it take way too much development effort to simply implement an extra ‘challenge to a duel‘ option when rightclicking someone’s name?

    I don't know what to tell if you if you think it's free to add features.

    Nobody needs an extra UI for duels. Just give us the option to have duels wherever we want, let it come with an option to disable getting duel request and everyone is happy.

    Just that right-click option is a change to the UI. And what does it mean to "have duels wherever you want"? Does it take you to a pvp zone? If so, you already have that option by using a pvp room to duel. If it doesn't, how does the game prevent other people from participating? It's not a minor change to the game.

    Never understood why people would be so against something some other people want.

    I explained that I'm not against it. I might even like it. I don't think it's free and I'm sure ANet doesn't think it's free, so I think it's unlikely.

    Especially if it doesn’t affect them.

    But it does affect people, even with an "opt in only" feature. Just because people won't see prompts doesn't mean that duelers are honorable and won't taunt people in /map or /say.

    I mean duel wherever I want in this world, if I wanna duel with a friend while waiting for a certain map meta to start I don’t wanna be forced to go to a pvp map to then lose the instance I was in. I don’t think it’s free either but it doesn’t really cost that much of development effort that it shouldn’t be implemented. Because the UI changes needed for that are very very small.
    Also your argument about taunting and stuff is pretty invalid because you already can do that if you want. To implement a duel option wouldn’t be a competitive feature it would be just for fun with randoms or friends while waiting for something. That’s why there wouldn’t be issues with balance or anything because again, it’s nothing serious just for fun.

  • Funky.4861Funky.4861 Member ✭✭✭
    No, this game is it's own unique MMORPG (don't want to be like typical MMORPGs)

    NO. This is far too open to abuse. Leave the stinking pvp where it is and out of the open world, tyvm. What you're asking for already exists in WVW, ableit with different maps.

  • Illconceived Was Na.9781Illconceived Was Na.9781 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2018

    @Nash.3974 said:

    I mean duel wherever I want in this world, if I wanna duel with a friend while waiting for a certain map meta to start I don’t wanna be forced to go to a pvp map to then lose the instance I was in.

    How do you prevent anyone else from joining in? What rule set is used in the duel? PvP? how do you make that happen in a PvE map? And if PvE rules, we know that some mechanics are split because they are too powerful (or too weak) in PvE against humans.

    Also your argument about taunting and stuff is pretty invalid because you already can do that if you want.

    Except that people do not often taunt about dueling because it's not currently an option. Even so, I have seen it happen without formal dueling (typically in LA or WvW).

    To implement a duel option wouldn’t be a competitive feature it would be just for fun with randoms or friends while waiting for something. That’s why there wouldn’t be issues with balance or anything because again, it’s nothing serious just for fun.

    If everyone played honorably all the time, this might be true. But people get very, very passionate about 1:1. We see it even now, without dueling being in the game.


    Regardless, you don't have to convince me that this is cheap and without potential support or social issues; you have to convince ANet. I think you'd have a better chance of doing that if you acknowledged that there are constructive critiques of the idea and incorporated that into the suggestion. It's fun to imagine that this is easy to add, but ANet can't afford to "imagine" things being easy; they have to actually implement it.

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  • Cyninja.2954Cyninja.2954 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2018
    No, this game is it's own unique MMORPG (don't want to be like typical MMORPGs)

    No, if you want to 1v1 join a pvp server or your guild arena and do so (some 1v1 options like skill resets would be nice in those areas) .

    This game is not a balanced around 1v1 just like many other MMOs are not balanced around 1v1. The difference is the amount of whine other MMOs see based on insignificant 1v1 outcomes. We don't need that here.

  • Yes, I love dueling and would love to fight in any map any time!

    @Cyninja.2954 said:
    No, if you want to 1v1 join a pvp server and do so.

    This game is not a balanced around 1v1 just like many other MMOs are not balanced around 1v1. The difference is the amount of whine other MMOs see based on insignificant 1v1 outcomes. We don't need that here.

    I never said anything about 1v1's i said duel option.

  • Cyninja.2954Cyninja.2954 Member ✭✭✭✭
    No, this game is it's own unique MMORPG (don't want to be like typical MMORPGs)

    @Sazukikrah.5036 said:

    @Cyninja.2954 said:
    No, if you want to 1v1 join a pvp server and do so.

    This game is not a balanced around 1v1 just like many other MMOs are not balanced around 1v1. The difference is the amount of whine other MMOs see based on insignificant 1v1 outcomes. We don't need that here.

    I never said anything about 1v1's i said duel option.

    The answer remains the same. All is available in the guild arena and spvp servers.

  • Loosmaster.8263Loosmaster.8263 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2018

    There are multiple options you can use to go duel. You just don't want to be bothered to use them.
    OWPvE will never have it.

    Edit: I'd rather them spend the resources and time to fix what we already have as PvP...

    Playing the PvE scene because WvW is just "BAD"...

  • Vieux P.1238Vieux P.1238 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Yes, I love dueling and would love to fight in any map any time!

    If you want to test it, Or make it permanent, Just add a fighting area in each major cities just like in the pvp lobby. Some Bosses area as well could use one while waiting.
    But add em close anoth where everything is happening .

    Winter Nerf is coming!

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭
    This is bad idea , It will stray players from Gameplay modes (I.E WvW / PvP)

    @Sazukikrah.5036 said:

    @Cyninja.2954 said:
    No, if you want to 1v1 join a pvp server and do so.

    This game is not a balanced around 1v1 just like many other MMOs are not balanced around 1v1. The difference is the amount of whine other MMOs see based on insignificant 1v1 outcomes. We don't need that here.

    I never said anything about 1v1's i said duel option.

    So if duel is not 1 vs 1 what is it 1 vs 2, 3, 50?
    Duels have been bettwen 2 people usualy mate.

  • Who cares?

    I dont think it adds much to the game. But others might like it.

  • No, this game is it's own unique MMORPG (don't want to be like typical MMORPGs)

    @Donari.5237 said:
    It does affect them, though. Duelists seem to love dueling in crowded areas like banks, spamming effects all over people just trying to do business. Even with autodecline, duelists seem to like verbally harassing or emoting at those who aren't accepting the duels. (I speak from having played in WoW and ESO, both of which have open world dueling).

    Join a guild that has a working arena, hop in the ring with your opponent, and duel all you like.

    None of your options are "No, it leads to open world harassment and toxicity," so I didn't vote.

    ^THIS.^
    but I voted anyway (no)
    If you want to duel, go to your GH Arena or your Refuge training pit, with your buddies, or duke it out in Costume Brawl...or, hey! WvW or SPvP.
    OW dueling is simply not necessary in this game and it would facilitate an unfriendly environment.

  • No, this game is it's own unique MMORPG (don't want to be like typical MMORPGs)

    @Vieux P.1238 said:
    If you want to test it, Or make it permanent, Just add a fighting area in each major cities just like in the pvp lobby. Some Bosses area as well could use one while waiting.
    But add em close anoth where everything is happening .

    I would not be opposed to a designated Arena in home cities. The Black Citadel has a story related Arena. I could see something like that in each home city where folks who just want to duel randoms for fun can go, but not be able to harass folk who don't want to be bothered. I would rather folks kept PvP in our already designated areas, but if enough folks really feel the need for this, at least an arena keeps it from adding even more chaos to the Bank/TP areas.

    If they could find a way, or if there is one already, to post announcements for your particular event in chat, you could use the Refuge training pit for dueling while waiting on events. Show up to event location, party with sparring partners, port to refuge, do your thing, return to sender in time for event.

  • Vieux P.1238Vieux P.1238 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Yes, I love dueling and would love to fight in any map any time!

    @Kitty La Boom Boom.4065 said:

    @Vieux P.1238 said:
    If you want to test it, Or make it permanent, Just add a fighting area in each major cities just like in the pvp lobby. Some Bosses area as well could use one while waiting.
    But add em close anoth where everything is happening .

    I would not be opposed to a designated Arena in home cities. The Black Citadel has a story related Arena. I could see something like that in each home city where folks who just want to duel randoms for fun can go, but not be able to harass folk who don't want to be bothered. I would rather folks kept PvP in our already designated areas, but if enough folks really feel the need for this, at least an arena keeps it from adding even more chaos to the Bank/TP areas.

    If they could find a way, or if there is one already, to post announcements for your particular event in chat, you could use the Refuge training pit for dueling while waiting on events. Show up to event location, party with sparring partners, port to refuge, do your thing, return to sender in time for event.

    Well, reserved pvp area is a good compromise that i know would work well. Especially just to hang out in populated areas such as cities Or just plain waiting for an event as a boss fight.

    Winter Nerf is coming!

  • Ithilwen.1529Ithilwen.1529 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Star Trek Online (STO) allows this option. PvP in STO is infamous for taking advantage of new players. I believe that the open world dueling is partly responsible.

    The same would happen in GW2.

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  • Sylosi.6503Sylosi.6503 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2018

    LOL, these guys coming out with arguments that duelling can facilitate "toxicity", etc, on that basis then you shouldn't have dungeons, fractals, raids, skins, guilds or even a chat system in game.

  • Axl.8924Axl.8924 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Yes, I love dueling and would love to fight in any map any time!

    I personally want world pvp yes pls its fun you can do pvp while leveling just random duel jumping people getting kills is fun with reward being in points or something? pls?

    Here is my list of characters i got so far:

    Elementalist 80 with tempest:Talman nul
    Necromancer 80 with reaper:Zex vokar
    Mesmer level 80 no chrono yet:Klanga voosh.
    Level 80 Ranger with druid spec Jedkhan.

  • Zaraki.5784Zaraki.5784 Member ✭✭✭✭
    No, this game is it's own unique MMORPG (don't want to be like typical MMORPGs)

    @Sylosi.6503 said:
    LOL, these guys coming out with arguments that duelling can facilitate "toxicity", etc, on that basis then you shouldn't have dungeons, fractals, raids, skins, guilds or even a chat system in game.

    Nah, just the blanket one in particular.

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  • It wouldnt be bad as long as there's an option to disable invitations for duels in PVE.

  • Yes, I love dueling and would love to fight in any map any time!

    If its not a lot of effort I dont see why not

  • derd.6413derd.6413 Member ✭✭✭✭
    This is bad idea , It will stray players from Gameplay modes (I.E WvW / PvP)

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:
    If its not a lot of effort I dont see why not

    to bad that's most likely not the case

    I Have No friends, so I Must pug

  • Aeon.4583Aeon.4583 Member ✭✭✭
    No, this game is it's own unique MMORPG (don't want to be like typical MMORPGs)

    It will open doors for Duel spammers.

  • Toron.4856Toron.4856 Member ✭✭✭
    Yes, I love dueling and would love to fight in any map any time!

    Just have an option to turn duel requests off. Everyone is happy.

    Adding each other as friend, finding an arena without time limit, running to a certain point, being able to use pvp stats only etc. Just for a simple duel is quite annoying.

    Duels would be so fun..

  • Yes, I love dueling and would love to fight in any map any time!

    I'd personally like to see it, but I really enjoy the PvP in this game. It'd be a lot of fun to pass the time duelling and even finding really interesting places on the map to have duels.
    WvW doesn't do it for me. Boring maps. Boring gank builds. Boring objectives. But open world would be quite interesting.

    I understand people have concerns about it being abused or scared they're going to get challenged or whatever. This could easily be overcome by not having a challenge spammed on your screen. Duels only take place when 2 players have challenged each other within x amount of time.

    Any concern that it'll take people away from PvP/WvW is unfounded. I can see something like this would actually increase the amount of people in these game modes. I know there are plenty of people that have never even tried PvP because they're worried they'd be no good. Friendly duels with others they know could potentially open their eyes to how good they actually are.

  • Yes, I love dueling and would love to fight in any map any time!

    @derd.6413 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:
    If its not a lot of effort I dont see why not

    to bad that's most likely not the case

    Dont see why It should be a lot of effort. Most MMOs launch with a duel feature.

  • Wolfb.7025Wolfb.7025 Member ✭✭✭
    Yes, I love dueling and would love to fight in any map any time!

    Totally down for this, i'd like to spar with people without having to go to PVP maps, friendly random sparring is cool.

    Also, if you don't like to pvp then why reject the idea for those that does? I'm only reading that kind of comments like "No, i dont like this, NOBODY WILL HAVE IT BECAUSE I DONT WANT IT".

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  • ReV.6097ReV.6097 Member ✭✭✭
    Give it shot ? Maybe test it out for 1 week.

    It was a good thing to have in other mmo's so I'd give it a try in GW2 as long as it was not in an area where you was fighting bosses or currently engaging in a fight with animals and enemies.

    Last one I tried with it was several years back, in SHAIYA.
    Could opt in the settings if you wanted to accept random duels, or instantly block the duels before they would even show up.
    The "text box" that asked for a duel was no larger than the size of a text box asking if you'd like to enter an instance in GW2.
    You had the option to add an item to the duel as a reward to the winner. Or not.

    Only difference was that you could use priests classes to Ressurect you once you died (or go back to town by warp point).
    In GW2 it should be that if you go into down state, you lose the duel, allowing you to simply recover your HP on your own and get back up without needing to warp.
    Or, once you get to downstate, the fight ends and you instantly rise up/rally without downstate. And the Duel ends.

    But Shaiya is not the best example.. I mean when you played the hardest mode for that MMO, if you died in Ultimate Mode (UM) without ressurection runes (which were costly) you could lose your character forever if someone didn't ress you, or if you didn't buy a revival online. Most people took too many risks by creating UM charactrs without any runes before venturing out. Especially in later PvE maps where if your PvP/WvW players weren't protecting the maps, other player factions could swoop in and assault players who were grinding for exp..

  • Zushada.6108Zushada.6108 Member ✭✭✭
    Give it shot ? Maybe test it out for 1 week.

    We had dueling in SWTOR but as a safeguard, certain maps were "dueling free." I really don't see what the problem is with this feature, nor do I see why ppl get so upset over this feature. As long as it is implemented with the ability to turn off or "automatically ignore dueling invites" then it should not be a problem.

  • coro.3176coro.3176 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Yes, I love dueling and would love to fight in any map any time!

    I get the arguments against it, but I have to give my two cents every time this is brought up.

    GW2 is full of BEAUTIFUL MAPS. They're huge and interesting with varied terrain and lots of obstacles and different environments.

    .. and it's a real shame that I spend all my time in the same PvP instances and WvW maps that have existed for years because the PvE maps are full of boring, predictable NPCs. I would love to spend more time in the PvE maps if there was just any chance of having a fun fight against another real person.

  • Yes, I love dueling and would love to fight in any map any time!

    @coro.3176 said:
    I get the arguments against it, but I have to give my two cents every time this is brought up.

    GW2 is full of BEAUTIFUL MAPS. They're huge and interesting with varied terrain and lots of obstacles and different environments.

    .. and it's a real shame that I spend all my time in the same PvP instances and WvW maps that have existed for years because the PvE maps are full of boring, predictable NPCs. I would love to spend more time in the PvE maps if there was just any chance of having a fun fight against another real person.

    THIS ^ ^ ^ , now i do understand it may stray players from playing in PvP but what hasn't already? Being matched with bad players constantly playing in 1 game mode which is king of the hill (because no one really plays the other game mode come on now, get real). And why not allow players to just do that just for fun? I don't see the big harm in that? Ofc we know this game isn't balanced off 1v1's yes we know that, but its all about making the game fun and enjoyable and giving players freedom! That's what i believe at least.

  • Give it shot ? Maybe test it out for 1 week.

    Why not, if implemented properly it would be another feature the game can boast about having. Again though, shameless plug, I think open world should also contain a war banner type drop where when picked up by a player can be activated in your inventory which would allow unrestrained ability to kill other players not from your side, or server in this case and anyone in that players party would also be able to kill any enemies of the war banner wearing player, similar to how the game Allods implemented it. This would again be another feature the game could boast about and would help balance the hybrid situation the powers that be seem to be stuck on when it comes to mixing pvp and pve.

    One last thing of note I think should be looked into is reforming either rewards, achievements or behavior in mechanics when it comes to WvWvW maps and EotM. If they find a nice balance to make WvWvW more aligned to larger guild/group organized fights with open space, longer caps, siege and coverage they should make the EotM no longer just a transition map but more for a small group/solo unorganized battle map. This may be something that could attract a larger audience than we have now if done properly as different people like pvp but in different variants. This just might well help some of the smaller guilds as well who are not looking to overdue it when it comes to organizing for large scale fights or who may be in training for it, but need the smaller scale unorganized experience first.

  • phokus.8934phokus.8934 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Kitty La Boom Boom.4065 said:

    @Vieux P.1238 said:
    If you want to test it, Or make it permanent, Just add a fighting area in each major cities just like in the pvp lobby. Some Bosses area as well could use one while waiting.
    But add em close anoth where everything is happening .

    I would not be opposed to a designated Arena in home cities. The Black Citadel has a story related Arena. I could see something like that in each home city where folks who just want to duel randoms for fun can go, but not be able to harass folk who don't want to be bothered. I would rather folks kept PvP in our already designated areas, but if enough folks really feel the need for this, at least an arena keeps it from adding even more chaos to the Bank/TP areas.

    If they could find a way, or if there is one already, to post announcements for your particular event in chat, you could use the Refuge training pit for dueling while waiting on events. Show up to event location, party with sparring partners, port to refuge, do your thing, return to sender in time for event.

    That's kind of a good idea. I like it.

  • Vieux P.1238Vieux P.1238 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Yes, I love dueling and would love to fight in any map any time!

    @phokus.8934 said:

    @Kitty La Boom Boom.4065 said:

    @Vieux P.1238 said:
    If you want to test it, Or make it permanent, Just add a fighting area in each major cities just like in the pvp lobby. Some Bosses area as well could use one while waiting.
    But add em close anoth where everything is happening .

    I would not be opposed to a designated Arena in home cities. The Black Citadel has a story related Arena. I could see something like that in each home city where folks who just want to duel randoms for fun can go, but not be able to harass folk who don't want to be bothered. I would rather folks kept PvP in our already designated areas, but if enough folks really feel the need for this, at least an arena keeps it from adding even more chaos to the Bank/TP areas.

    If they could find a way, or if there is one already, to post announcements for your particular event in chat, you could use the Refuge training pit for dueling while waiting on events. Show up to event location, party with sparring partners, port to refuge, do your thing, return to sender in time for event.

    That's kind of a good idea. I like it.

    Yes i'm glad i thought of it. If it happen's, i coined it!
    In the pass i even suggested using certain dead maps area's in core Tyria explicitly to open world pvp instead of WvW. Core Tyria could use the population.
    Objective is simple. Mainly, limited Resources to harvest per cycle.

    Winter Nerf is coming!

  • Yes, I love dueling and would love to fight in any map any time!

    Any game that i've played with dueling option there was ALWAYS an option to auto decline duels. Taking advantage of new players argument? How many new players are even lvl 1 any more ? lol every one is getting lvl 80 boost. I guess you could argue they don't know how to play? But wouldn't that be the players choice... No one is forcing dueling . you can chose yes or no. It's not automatic like as soon as i send request you have to fight to the death. Your arguments are funny. Do people proof read any more ? or they just type the first thing that comes to mind?

  • Yes, I love dueling and would love to fight in any map any time!

    @Kitty La Boom Boom.4065 said:

    @Vieux P.1238 said:
    If you want to test it, Or make it permanent, Just add a fighting area in each major cities just like in the pvp lobby. Some Bosses area as well could use one while waiting.
    But add em close anoth where everything is happening .

    I would not be opposed to a designated Arena in home cities. The Black Citadel has a story related Arena. I could see something like that in each home city where folks who just want to duel randoms for fun can go, but not be able to harass folk who don't want to be bothered. I would rather folks kept PvP in our already designated areas, but if enough folks really feel the need for this, at least an arena keeps it from adding even more chaos to the Bank/TP areas.

    If they could find a way, or if there is one already, to post announcements for your particular event in chat, you could use the Refuge training pit for dueling while waiting on events. Show up to event location, party with sparring partners, port to refuge, do your thing, return to sender in time for event.

    They have this in Black Desert Online actually.

  • Fenella.2634Fenella.2634 Member ✭✭✭
    No, this game is it's own unique MMORPG (don't want to be like typical MMORPGs)

    Can you even imagine how fast people would start whining about balance? ^^;
    PvE balance does not work for duels.

    Also, yes, I like to go to separate maps for PvP. It's all fun, but when I play PvE, I highly appreciate that cooperative and relatively friendly community. When I see other players in PvE, I want to be pretty certain they're allies. :)

  • Yes, I love dueling and would love to fight in any map any time!

    @Fenella.2634 said:
    Can you even imagine how fast people would start whining about balance? ^^;
    PvE balance does not work for duels.

    Also, yes, I like to go to separate maps for PvP. It's all fun, but when I play PvE, I highly appreciate that cooperative and relatively friendly community. When I see other players in PvE, I want to be pretty certain they're allies. :)

    Guild hall arena is based on PvE . NO EXCUSES

  • Crystal Paladin.3871Crystal Paladin.3871 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 25, 2018
    Give it shot ? Maybe test it out for 1 week.

    We already have belchers bluff, costume brawl and other stuff that works on open world pve... So... Implementing this might not be tricky as it sounds... But then again, it might lead to irritating trolls and trash talkers... Then ppl will request for team vs team on open world pve... Then guild is guild... Then it'd be a replica of WvW...

    The main intention of OP sounds more like he needs other people' attention... Or he wants other ppl to watch how good he is... It might be for bragging or for trashing others in public... If OP wants pure pvp fun, use guild arena or instanced pvp game browser...

    Imagine PVP duels near world boss events... Idk how ppl would behave or react... But I'm intrigued... ;)

  • No, this game is it's own unique MMORPG (don't want to be like typical MMORPGs)

    I'm pretty sure OP is just a toxic troll who likes trashing people without a fair fight. Which would be pretty easy by picking a PvP oriented build against a PvE build. In GW2 people play very different builds in PvP and PvE and for a good reason. With a PvE build you don't really stand a chance against a PvP build in a duel. On the other hand the PvP build is vastly inferior when it comes to clear speed.

    In every MMO I've played that had open world duels, high-lvl players would stand around the starter zones and spam new players with duel requests. Forget the gap in experience, they didn't even stand a chance from a lvl and equipment perspective. I don't want to see this kind of behaviour ever in GW2.

    No skin should be exclusive to gem-store rng boxes.
    What really happened with mount skins

  • Give it shot ? Maybe test it out for 1 week.

    @BunjiKugashira.9754 said:
    I'm pretty sure OP is just a toxic troll who likes trashing people without a fair fight. Which would be pretty easy by picking a PvP oriented build against a PvE build. In GW2 people play very different builds in PvP and PvE and for a good reason. With a PvE build you don't really stand a chance against a PvP build in a duel. On the other hand the PvP build is vastly inferior when it comes to clear speed.

    In every MMO I've played that had open world duels, high-lvl players would stand around the starter zones and spam new players with duel requests. Forget the gap in experience, they didn't even stand a chance from a lvl and equipment perspective. I don't want to see this kind of behaviour ever in GW2.

    Well said... But opinions differ... Trolls could be controlled i hope... if such mode is implemented in the near future :p

  • derd.6413derd.6413 Member ✭✭✭✭
    This is bad idea , It will stray players from Gameplay modes (I.E WvW / PvP)

    @Crystal Paladin.3871 said:

    @BunjiKugashira.9754 said:
    I'm pretty sure OP is just a toxic troll who likes trashing people without a fair fight. Which would be pretty easy by picking a PvP oriented build against a PvE build. In GW2 people play very different builds in PvP and PvE and for a good reason. With a PvE build you don't really stand a chance against a PvP build in a duel. On the other hand the PvP build is vastly inferior when it comes to clear speed.

    In every MMO I've played that had open world duels, high-lvl players would stand around the starter zones and spam new players with duel requests. Forget the gap in experience, they didn't even stand a chance from a lvl and equipment perspective. I don't want to see this kind of behaviour ever in GW2.

    Trolls could be controlled i hope

    they can't

    I Have No friends, so I Must pug

  • Omnicron.2467Omnicron.2467 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 25, 2018

    This is possible in ESO and works fine there, just a bit annoying when you keep getting deuling requests as a PvE player.

    Maybe if we had a designated area like Queen's Gauntled where you can invite one another for a duel and you then get ported away for your fight into the arena

  • Crystal Paladin.3871Crystal Paladin.3871 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 25, 2018
    Give it shot ? Maybe test it out for 1 week.

    @Omnicron.2467 said:
    Maybe if we had a designated area like Queen's Gauntled where you can invite one another for a duel and you then get ported away for your fight into the arena

    I think OP wants to duel players on a crowded place like waypoints, world boss events and lion's arch... Kinda like spectator sports... He isn't interested If there's little or noone to watch his playstyle, he would've used custom arena or guild arena or WvW if he didn't mind spectators presence...

  • Omnicron.2467Omnicron.2467 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 25, 2018

    @Crystal Paladin.3871 said:

    @Omnicron.2467 said:
    Maybe if we had a designated area like Queen's Gauntled where you can invite one another for a duel and you then get ported away for your fight into the arena

    I think OP wants to duel players on a crowded place like waypoints, world boss events and lion's arch... Kinda like spectator sports... He isn't interested If there's little or noone to watch his playstyle, he would've used custom arena or guild arena or WvW if he didn't mind spectators presence...

    Ah I see, well that happens in ESO and it gets a bit annoying getting deuling requests every few mins if you are not interested, but it does work since there is always someone deuling

    Edit: A way to fix this might be to have an option in settings to automatically decline deuling invitations so people not interested can just PvE in peace while others deul

  • Give it shot ? Maybe test it out for 1 week.

    But a few weeks ago, a guy made an open request in lion's arch for a belcher's bluff match... And since nobody responded, he started posting sad commenting and declared everyone to be bots and NPCs... So I agreed to have a single match with him... I got begginers luck and accidentally beat him... So he insisted me for a rematch... Then I lost miserably... But I had a good time... It's been fun competing with strangers in tyria... Adds some mix and fun to gw2...

    But if that was PVP duel on openworld, then, if we're a newb, make mistakes and lose or if we win against a rude person, the outcome would not be pleasant... PVP is instanced and separated from pve, yet ppl don't think twice B4 making a rude comment even if they lose... And say something like "some monkey one shot build" , "your pet helped you win the fight, you're a cat" and "uninstall gw2 if you use that monkey one shot build"
    And I'm not even talking about ranked... :p ;)

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