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  • MELORD.5013MELORD.5013 Member ✭✭
    edited November 6, 2019

    update bump

    [KEKW]

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Uptick for second week in a row, did the anet balance threads encourage this?
    FA back to full.
    Mag up from medium to high.
    JQ up from high to very high.

    Gandara down from full to very high.
    Whiteside ridge up from very high to full.
    Riverside up from high to very high.

    Another derailing post ^ - Anet
    "Is there pvp stuff for this?" - "Absolutely, eh we actually have a new armor set coming soon." - "Woo!"
    "From the back of the room!, the one pvp fan! we got him! WaH!"
    || Stealth is a Terribad Mechanic ||

  • @XenesisII.1540 said:
    Uptick for second week in a row, did the anet balance threads encourage this?

    hmm it could be that

    [KEKW]

  • SWI.4127SWI.4127 Member ✭✭✭

    I think it's just that BG is playing much less now, and they use BG as a measuring stick to determine "full" threshold. So the threshold for full is now lower. Just my guess though, I don't know exactly how they determine these things.

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @SWI.4127 said:
    I think it's just that BG is playing much less now, and they use BG as a measuring stick to determine "full" threshold. So the threshold for full is now lower. Just my guess though, I don't know exactly how they determine these things.

    That only explains for Full, not all the other thresholds below it, they all don't need to be constantly moved like a yoyo.

    Another derailing post ^ - Anet
    "Is there pvp stuff for this?" - "Absolutely, eh we actually have a new armor set coming soon." - "Woo!"
    "From the back of the room!, the one pvp fan! we got him! WaH!"
    || Stealth is a Terribad Mechanic ||

  • Liston.9708Liston.9708 Member ✭✭✭

    More likely scenario is some mediums lost people to fa JQ etc.

  • Optimator.3589Optimator.3589 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2019

    I don't know that I trust Anet's visible metrics at all. Dead empty worlds are listed at medium, and so are worlds like FC, which is definitely not empty. Obviously activity varies a great deal between timezones but still...different servers with the same listed populations are dramatically different with actual populations.

    It would be far more honest if they ever actually listed servers as low population.

    As for BG, they're just hibergating trying to open again. The usual manipulation. Anet will cave, open BG, and suddenly they'll be at the top of T1 again.

    REDUCE NA TO 3 TIERS

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    bg is going t4.

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • @Liston.9708 said:
    More likely scenario is some mediums lost people to fa JQ etc.

    JQ went from link server status to very high in a couple weeks. It's just dumb. At least the stacked servers get to face off next week, then everyone can start throwing to try to stay out of t1 as usual.

  • Klypto.1703Klypto.1703 Member ✭✭✭

    @Grim West.3194 said:
    BG killed WvW a long time ago.

    Your map has queue to get on it and you have the outnumbered buff :) Its funny though because you can tell by these refugees that come to servers now that they were on that server because they never taught them anything other than to press 1. So you come across 20 people by yourself and think you are done for but then your target limit has killed 5 of them instantly. So then you end up killing them all when all BG had to do was teach them about armor and trinkets which they only gave out weapons to press 1 with. Then they get on forums because they died saying thief or whatever other class killed them needs a nerf.

  • update bump big changes

    [KEKW]

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Indeed a big jump in NA population.
    Anvil rock, Borlis pass, Maguuma, all jump from high to very high.
    Mag jumped from med to very high in two weeks, new bandwagon? sleeper agents?
    NSP HoD SBI from medium to high.

    On EU only Gandara moves from very high to full.

    Another derailing post ^ - Anet
    "Is there pvp stuff for this?" - "Absolutely, eh we actually have a new armor set coming soon." - "Woo!"
    "From the back of the room!, the one pvp fan! we got him! WaH!"
    || Stealth is a Terribad Mechanic ||

  • MELORD.5013MELORD.5013 Member ✭✭
    edited November 11, 2019

    @XenesisII.1540 said:

    Mag jumped from med to very high in two weeks, new bandwagon?

    BP and JQ as wll
    big changes who knows what's going on
    maybe cuz it's finally getting some attention

    [KEKW]

  • @XenesisII.1540 said:
    Indeed a big jump in NA population.

    Ty for the update

  • Stagar.7216Stagar.7216 Member ✭✭
    edited November 11, 2019

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    Indeed a big jump in NA population.
    Anvil rock, Borlis pass, Maguuma, all jump from high to very high.
    Mag jumped from med to very high in two weeks, new bandwagon? sleeper agents?
    NSP HoD SBI from medium to high.

    Not a jump in NA population but a decline in BG's pop which is what they use as a measuring stick for wvw server populations.
    If BG is the only full server and is last place in every time zone pop except SEA then it would make people scratch their heads as to why other servers are much lower

  • LetoII.3782LetoII.3782 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Or maybe they dialed the thresholds down so 60% of the servers weren't medium

    [HUNT] the predatory instinct

  • Liston.9708Liston.9708 Member ✭✭✭

    or players closing t4 even if anet isn't...….

  • yes ppl playing more during the winter months is a big surprise... not.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @LetoII.3782 said:
    Or maybe they dialed the thresholds down so 60% of the servers weren't medium

    This would solve two problems:

    • more servers appear high and very high
    • BG stays closed making 90% of the populace happy.

    Thank You for the {MEME}

  • Does ANET even look at the actual WvW population when they create these "teams"? Why is Maguuma and SBI together? This month is such a waste.

  • shiri.4257shiri.4257 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @LetoII.3782 said:
    Or maybe they dialed the thresholds down so 60% of the servers weren't medium

    Or Papa Xushin just released 60% of the warchest.

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  • DAN.7314DAN.7314 Member ✭✭

    @DragonSlayer.1087 said:
    Does ANET even look at the actual WvW population when they create these "teams"? Why is Maguuma and SBI together? This month is such a waste.

    I think it would help if they cut down the amount of time servers are linked. Cut the 8 week period in half to 4 weeks, or even 2 weeks. I'm contemplating giving the game a break or quitting as I'm not looking forward to getting stuck in T1 versus the BP/FC/BG mega-bandwagon for the next month and a half.

    It's weird because the JQ/HoD link actually has the most people playing I've seen in a LONG time, but we are still massively outnumbered and outskilled. Only other match I've been in that was this outnumbered was when Anet screwed up and gave that host 3 links by mistake. It's awful.

  • neven.3785neven.3785 Member ✭✭✭

    Mags population jump was CL deciding to make Maguuma its home. SBI's population jump was a couple SEA groups choosing to make SBI their new home after BG was no longer locking them in the higher tiers.

  • Sleepwalker.1398Sleepwalker.1398 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Having a look at this and wondering if i should login and do any wvw today or just go do some leftover pve stuff.
    We're green btw.

  • neven.3785neven.3785 Member ✭✭✭

    I think we need a few more threads with that picture

  • shiri.4257shiri.4257 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @XenesisII.1540 said:

    @DragonSlayer.1087 said:
    Does ANET even look at the actual WvW population when they create these "teams"? Why is Maguuma and SBI together? This month is such a waste.

    Do you guys bother to take a moment and think about it before asking questions like this? The population for both were on medium at relinks, how are they suppose to know when and where players bandwagon? Maybe players should control themselves for a change and stop jumping ship every two months.
    Or hey maybe CL and the sea guilds should give Anet a heads up next time huh.

    I heard people transfer for "more fights" and the "community." is this still true?

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    Michelin rated WvW guild since 2015. The gold standard. Never transferred, never reformed, adapting and reloading with or without Anet.

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2019

    ppl transfer to have more allies to fight together with. no one wants to be the punching bag

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • KeyOrion.9506KeyOrion.9506 Member ✭✭✭

    Expect when the NA server population reaches below 1/2 that Anet will have no other choice but to link European Servers with North American Servers in order to fill the maps. That's a fact. There's going to be no other way to look at it. Unless something like new maps come into play, or a whole new type of combat play for WvW, it's as good as six feet under.

  • cobbah.3102cobbah.3102 Member ✭✭✭

    @shiri.4257 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:

    @DragonSlayer.1087 said:
    Does ANET even look at the actual WvW population when they create these "teams"? Why is Maguuma and SBI together? This month is such a waste.

    Do you guys bother to take a moment and think about it before asking questions like this? The population for both were on medium at relinks, how are they suppose to know when and where players bandwagon? Maybe players should control themselves for a change and stop jumping ship every two months.
    Or hey maybe CL and the sea guilds should give Anet a heads up next time huh.

    I heard people transfer for "more fights" and the "community." is this still true?

    It is laughable it has nothing to with fights ,the so called fight servers sit in towers until they outnumber and then come out to blob down which is their way of calling it fights. The game is all about PPT regardless of "fights" dead time zones are ktrains. Even blob v blob once one blob gets done in 3 times they leave .

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  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @cobbah.3102 said:

    @shiri.4257 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:

    @DragonSlayer.1087 said:
    Does ANET even look at the actual WvW population when they create these "teams"? Why is Maguuma and SBI together? This month is such a waste.

    Do you guys bother to take a moment and think about it before asking questions like this? The population for both were on medium at relinks, how are they suppose to know when and where players bandwagon? Maybe players should control themselves for a change and stop jumping ship every two months.
    Or hey maybe CL and the sea guilds should give Anet a heads up next time huh.

    I heard people transfer for "more fights" and the "community." is this still true?

    It is laughable it has nothing to with fights ,the so called fight servers sit in towers until they outnumber and then come out to blob down which is their way of calling it fights. The game is all about PPT regardless of "fights" dead time zones are ktrains. Even blob v blob once one blob gets done in 3 times they leave .

    fight servers blob :p

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • Come on BG!!, you guys need 8 Omega against 5 defenders? such try hards....

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Borlis pass, Jade quarry move from very high to full status.
    Ferguson's crossing moves from medium to high status.

    On EU, Whiteside ridge drops to very high, Desolation moves from very high to full.

    Another derailing post ^ - Anet
    "Is there pvp stuff for this?" - "Absolutely, eh we actually have a new armor set coming soon." - "Woo!"
    "From the back of the room!, the one pvp fan! we got him! WaH!"
    || Stealth is a Terribad Mechanic ||

  • TheGrimm.5624TheGrimm.5624 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 19, 2019

    @DragonSlayer.1087 said:
    Does ANET even look at the actual WvW population when they create these "teams"? Why is Maguuma and SBI together? This month is such a waste.

    Not sure where you were going here. I think they paired us since we have never been paired and it seems we are both missing time zones and coverage and so far it's kind of working and meshing. Not saying I know their math or agree with it it, but...

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  • NA is back in the mix feels good

    [KEKW]

  • we BP conquer all

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  • Kunzaito.8169Kunzaito.8169 Member ✭✭✭

    I'm curious to see if BG's tankjob is going to be successful in manipulating their server status, or if the metrics take longer to adjust than they can keep this up (though it certainly seems like they're on track to get to T4, like Sov predicted)

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Kunzaito.8169 said:
    I'm curious to see if BG's tankjob is going to be successful in manipulating their server status, or if the metrics take longer to adjust than they can keep this up (though it certainly seems like they're on track to get to T4, like Sov predicted)

    They were in T4.

    They ‘won’ T4 and are now in T3.

    Honestly, it’s interesting how many of the bandwagon guilds left and went to BP. But hey, that doesn’t count.

    Thank You for the {MEME}

  • @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Kunzaito.8169 said:
    I'm curious to see if BG's tankjob is going to be successful in manipulating their server status, or if the metrics take longer to adjust than they can keep this up (though it certainly seems like they're on track to get to T4, like Sov predicted)

    They were in T4.

    They ‘won’ T4 and are now in T3.

    Honestly, it’s interesting how many of the bandwagon guilds left and went to BP. But hey, that doesn’t count.

    That bandwagon Will Go on forever
    People can choose to Carry or get carried

  • DemonSeed.3528DemonSeed.3528 Member ✭✭✭✭

    It's a vicious circle in a microcosm - if the server don't carry, the builds do xd

  • Liston.9708Liston.9708 Member ✭✭✭

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Kunzaito.8169 said:
    I'm curious to see if BG's tankjob is going to be successful in manipulating their server status, or if the metrics take longer to adjust than they can keep this up (though it certainly seems like they're on track to get to T4, like Sov predicted)

    They were in T4.

    They ‘won’ T4 and are now in T3.

    Honestly, it’s interesting how many of the bandwagon guilds left and went to BP. But hey, that doesn’t count.

    But did they leave or are they playing alts?

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Liston.9708 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Kunzaito.8169 said:
    I'm curious to see if BG's tankjob is going to be successful in manipulating their server status, or if the metrics take longer to adjust than they can keep this up (though it certainly seems like they're on track to get to T4, like Sov predicted)

    They were in T4.

    They ‘won’ T4 and are now in T3.

    Honestly, it’s interesting how many of the bandwagon guilds left and went to BP. But hey, that doesn’t count.

    But did they leave or are they playing alts?

    Several guilds have. Some of the longer standing BG players may be playing alts, I do not know.

    Thank You for the {MEME}

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    TC moved high to very high, 420.
    Gandara to full to very high, Seafarers rest med to high.

    Another derailing post ^ - Anet
    "Is there pvp stuff for this?" - "Absolutely, eh we actually have a new armor set coming soon." - "Woo!"
    "From the back of the room!, the one pvp fan! we got him! WaH!"
    || Stealth is a Terribad Mechanic ||

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    to win, the game mode demands numbers for the war effort through zerging.

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • Caysadia.7405Caysadia.7405 Member ✭✭✭

    to win, is to never have played at all

  • Which guilds are the bandwagon guilds?

  • LetoII.3782LetoII.3782 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Black Frog.9274 said:
    Which guilds are the bandwagon guilds?

    It's near a bogeyman at this point. While a big guild might make a splash, the tsunami of single pugs following has always been the quiet killer.

    [HUNT] the predatory instinct