Idea: Holding down Minion skills for 6 seconds banishes minions

[Knighthonor.4061]

This a cool idea without adding new UI tools. Simply holding down the minion skill for 6 seconds will banish them.

You can be in combat or out. So no need to swap skills or add UI buttons to fix this problem. Still can use skills as normal or hold them to banish.

[derd.6413]

this sounds like it'd be alot of work on the back end to make this work

[Psycoprophet.8107]

Just implement a stow all pet option so players can bind to a key, would it be that hard?

[InsaneQR.7412]

@Psycoprophet.8107 said:Just implement a stow all pet option so players can bind to a key, would it be that hard?

I mean ranger hasn't got a keybind to pet stow until now sooo...... Yes?

[Stalkingwolf.6035]

@derd.6413 said:this sounds like it'd be alot of work on the back end to make this work

count to 6 when a button is pressed. yea a lot of work.

[Illconceived Was Na.9781]

@Stalkingwolf.6035 said:

@"derd.6413" said:this sounds like it'd be alot of work on the back end to make this work

count to 6 when a button is pressed. yea a lot of work.

Which buttons tho? Does it matter if a minion is out or not? What happens if the user only presses for 4s and then another 4s, with a tiny break?

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In the end, it's always better to describe the issue than to try to pick a specific solution. We don't really know what changes will cost what nor should it matter to us. The actual problem for some necros is that they find it difficult to get out of combat.There are all sorts of ways to address that, including ones that are conceptually simpler for programmers and users alike (e.g. "dismiss minions" hot key).

That only leaves the questions of: is that best of the game or does it remove one of the tradeoffs to balance some of the advantages of minionmancery? And: how soon after dismissal before the player can resummon them? (Full cooldown? partial?) Those are probably both questions that ANet wants to reserve for themselves, although I'm sure players will have their own views too.

[Stalkingwolf.6035]

@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

@Stalkingwolf.6035 said:

@derd.6413 said:this sounds like it'd be alot of work on the back end to make this work

count to 6 when a button is pressed. yea a lot of work.

Which buttons tho? Does it matter if a minion is out or not? What happens if the user only presses for 4s and then another 4s, with a tiny break?

it always amaze me what people think how complex coding is. its not magic, its pretty simple. Doing this for over 30 years now.for a developer thats not a problem at all.

and yes it would be very nice if minion classes can release there minions. i mean it happens all the time, but we can not control it.picking up things for example chest in Sirenes Reef, Switching maps and so on.

[Lady Celtaine.3760]

I agree this is a good idea, if rangers can stow pet to avoid drawing too much aggro when they don't want to then minion masters should be able to do the same. It would be such a small change it wouldn't break anything in game, just add slightly to convenience. But personally I'm in favor of a stow button like the pet rather than hold down the utility still keys as some people can be a little absent minded and hold keys too long by mistake.

[Psycoprophet.8107]

Honestly a stow minion button should have been created at same time as rangers stow pet as the reasoning for one is the same for both classes. At least rangers had a return command. Both these classes should have got a stow bind shortly after the community complained about it as in design it seems kind of like a oversight.

[VDAC.2137]

Why not just swap your minion utility? That is what I do when I need to eliminate them. Of course this is only an option out of combat, but so is the stow pet (although rangers do have the option to set them on passive).

[Josiah.2967]

I am against this idea. I don't want to accidentally disable a minion and have a cool down.

Rangers have the option to put their minions on passive, we should have an option to put our minions on passive.

[Psycoprophet.8107]

@Josiah.2967 said:I am against this idea. I don't want to accidentally disable a minion and have a cool down.

Rangers have the option to put their minions on passive, we should have an option to put our minions on passive.

That would be another good option

[phs.6089]

There is much more simple way, juts implement a F6 skill on necro, that kills any active minion without any damage to surrounding for balance sake. Done. People are asking for a way to get rid of minions for long now.

[Knighthonor.4061]

@phs.6089 said:There is much more simple way, juts implement a F6 skill on necro, that kills any active minion without any damage to surrounding for balance sake. Done. People are asking for a way to get rid of minions for long now.

That would require adding another UI button compared to this idea. UI buttons like that tend to be used for class mechanics and elite specs. Not for a single skill type.

[phs.6089]

@Knighthonor.4061 said:

@phs.6089 said:There is much more simple way, juts implement a F6 skill on necro, that kills any active minion without any damage to surrounding for balance sake. Done. People are asking for a way to get rid of minions for long now.

That would require adding another UI button compared to this idea. UI buttons like that tend to be used for class mechanics and elite specs. Not for a single skill type.

I'm sure it would be a good class mech button.

[Teratus.2859]

I've always thought Necro could do with a F2-3 option.F2 All minions return to you, F3 All minions suicide and explode.

I dunno how Anet would end up doing something like that but Minions need some sort of basic command structure.

[Knighthonor.4061]

@phs.6089 said:

@Knighthonor.4061 said:

@phs.6089 said:There is much more simple way, juts implement a F6 skill on necro, that kills any active minion without any damage to surrounding for balance sake. Done. People are asking for a way to get rid of minions for long now.

That would require adding another UI button compared to this idea. UI buttons like that tend to be used for class mechanics and elite specs. Not for a single skill type.

I'm sure it would be a good class mech button.

But it would only be available if a player has Minion skills equipped, which is optional. So having a class mechanic F(x) skill is a waste of a mechanic slot for a skill that is optional and can be used with all future elite specs that may have their own additional F(x) skills.

[ZDragon.3046]

@derd.6413 said:this sounds like it'd be alot of work on the back end to make this work

I point you in the direction of Signet of Agony.Holding down the key causes its range to extend

I would actually like to see more skill functionaility with this kind of thing in general to be honest where holding down the key expands the attacks range or extends the attacks effects / damage up to a certain limit.

Other tools built on this same idea could be put to use for other purposes as well such as spawning minions etc.

[Tinker.6924]

It's overly complicated. Just give Necros what Rangers already have, a dedicated Pet Stow button.