Fractal Rewards

[Ashen.2907]

Does the removal of mystic coins as rewards for high end fractals represent an intention to abandon this game mode? There does not seem to be a balancing increase to offset the reduction.

[Ashantara.8731]

The reason behind it was explained precisely: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/guild-wars-2-end-of-dragons-strike-missions-balance-and-rewards/

[Linken.6345]

Maybe they should add so you can chose a mystic coin from each ascended box that drop if you got full ascended/legendary armor already.

[Ashen.2907]

52 minutes ago, Ashantara.8731 said:

The reason behind it was explained precisely: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/guild-wars-2-end-of-dragons-strike-missions-balance-and-rewards/

A reason.

But at no point do they explain how they expect removing rewards from a type of content to NOT cause a reduction in the player base for the content. Purposefully reducing the player base for content, when content that is not popular has been abandoned in the past, is solid indication that abandonment is part of the intention.

So, as rewards are being removed and not replaced, is this a not-so-subtle indication that the content is being abandoned?

 

Removing rewards is part of removing content. With fractals de-emphasized even the addition of new strikes with EoD represents a net loss of rewarding group instanced content.

[zealex.9410]

1 hour ago, Ashantara.8731 said:

The reason behind it was explained precisely: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/guild-wars-2-end-of-dragons-strike-missions-balance-and-rewards/

Sucks that its a terrible explanation and execution.

[singanushiga.5803]

If they really care about state of Mystic Coins, they need to make daily login rewards only obtainable for players who at least have PoF or HoT. There are tons of players who abused Twitch Prime reward, and got lots of alt accounts with that Heroic Edition. I don't think that completely removing MC drop from cms is a solution for this issue, instead only the final boss can drop 0-3 Mystic Coins or 1 MC for making it consistent.

Edited February 12, 2022 by usulyagmur.4092

[Wolfb.7025]

With this change, a Fractal CHALLENGE MODE essentially gives less gold than a normal daily T4.

Edited February 12, 2022 by Wolfb.7025

[tonny.7580]

 

6 hours ago, Wolfb.7025 said:

With this change, a Fractal CHALLENGE MODE essentially gives less gold than a normal daily T4.

ye but point of doing fotm i only did it for thad reason and necro meta kill it for me with this it just dead 

[Einsof.1457]

Anet knows strikes are terrible content. Strikes are inspired by trials in final fantasy xiv. drop in to one boss, very lazy stuff. Rather than have the content stand on it's own merit, they want to kill old content to encourage newer content. Very terrible design and im very disappointed. 

Edited February 12, 2022 by Einsof.1457

[Shadowmoon.7986]

Currently there are not enough ectos sinks and too many mystic coin sinks. So what is anets logic, make a bigger mystic coin sink and smaller ecto sink.  This is incompetence.

My list of better solutions. Keep the the weekly 10 coin limit to fractals, remove drop coin drop from mini cm bosses, can only drop from final bosses. Increase ecto cost of clovers not coin. Remove extra gold from money wings in raids, instead reward 1 coin per encounter. Rotate the 4 hot wings and the 3 pof wings seperately for the two "coin" wings.  Add a coin to IBS weekly strike chest if all echos are active.

These are better solutions to solve the proplem with fractal cm being too good compare to other content.

If anything the new system will make mystic coins price go even higher. People who do all content will consume 50 mystic coins a week. These can not be earned via ingame activities (7 for naked man, 6 for wvw, 5 for login chest, 10 from new strike rewards), so you will rely on tp which will cause a major shortage.

Edited February 12, 2022 by Shadowmoon.7986

[Bakeneko.5826]

11 hours ago, Wolfb.7025 said:

With this change, a Fractal CHALLENGE MODE essentially gives less gold than a normal daily T4.

even now it does, lol

[Blood Red Arachnid.2493]

11 hours ago, Wolfb.7025 said:

With this change, a Fractal CHALLENGE MODE essentially gives less gold than a normal daily T4.

I keep hearing this, but I haven't seen anyone show the numbers on it.  The Integrated Fractal Matrix alone is worth 2 gold when converted to keys, or 2.5-3 gold if used for infusions or skins.  

[Shadowmoon.7986]

1 hour ago, Blood Red Arachnid.2493 said:

I keep hearing this, but I haven't seen anyone show the numbers on it.  The Integrated Fractal Matrix alone is worth 2 gold when converted to keys, or 2.5-3 gold if used for infusions or skins.  

https://fast.farming-community.eu/farming/daily-group

Has been done. T4 have a higher gold per hour than cms.

[Blood Red Arachnid.2493]

6 hours ago, Shadowmoon.7986 said:

https://fast.farming-community.eu/farming/daily-group

Has been done. T4 have a higher gold per hour than cms.

That's not what I quoted.  People were saying it gives more gold, period.  That chart you linked shows that no, overall the CMs give more total gold.  The Gold/hour is higher on T4 because it is faster to do them, which is also a near meaningless metric given that they're daily and account bound.  

[Wolfb.7025]

4 hours ago, Blood Red Arachnid.2493 said:

That's not what I quoted.  People were saying it gives more gold, period.  That chart you linked shows that no, overall the CMs give more total gold.  The Gold/hour is higher on T4 because it is faster to do them, which is also a near meaningless metric given that they're daily and account bound.  

-CMs Takes more time.

-Takes more effort.

-Profit/hr is lower than a daily T4.

 

And it will be lower profit once they remove MCs.

That list isn't even showing the profit/hr of Fractal 42 farm.

[Krzysztof.5973]

  

On 2/12/2022 at 9:24 AM, Wolfb.7025 said:

With this change, a Fractal CHALLENGE MODE essentially gives less gold than a normal daily T4.

We hate people who care the most and put a lot of effort into completing "challenging" content in this game. Everything in the past 2 years points to Anet making the game easier and opened to more casual audience. No big mystery here.

Edited February 13, 2022 by Krzysztof.5973

[Bakeneko.5826]

19 hours ago, Krzysztof.5973 said:

  

We hate people who care the most and put a lot of effort into completing "challenging" content in this game. Everything in the past 2 years points to Anet making the game easier and opened to more casual audience. No big mystery here.

It is casual game after all

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

On 2/12/2022 at 2:49 AM, usulyagmur.4092 said:

If they really care about state of Mystic Coins, they need to make daily login rewards only obtainable for players who at least have PoF or HoT. There are tons of players who abused Twitch Prime reward, and got lots of alt accounts with that Heroic Edition. I don't think that completely removing MC drop from cms is a solution for this issue, instead only the final boss can drop 0-3 Mystic Coins or 1 MC for making it consistent.

Every day, upon login, one login rewards bonus chest will appear on the right side of the screen above the minimap. Clicking on it will show the current progress on the schedule and allow players to claim the current reward. The login rewards follow a specific cycle where each day you log in, you get another reward. The cycle repeats after 28 claimed rewards. Days are accumulative, so missing a day will not matter; you simply progress a day each day you login.

The reward can be claimed on any character, regardless of which one first logged in. If the player goes off-line without collecting their reward, it will still be waiting for them upon reloading the game, even if it is the following day; all that is required to receive a chest is to be online during that day, and the reward for that will wait until it is claimed.

This feature is locked for free accounts.

[Fuchslein.8639]

On 2/14/2022 at 7:30 AM, Bakeneko.5826 said:

It is casual game after all

Yeah and Gw2-"casuals" here in the forum seem to have the mission to badmouth any content that requires more than just 1 1 1 press and equate it with toxisity because they can't make their own groups ...
It's not like the "hardcore" content in gw2 makes up the smallest part and they have like 90% of the game for themselves.

The greatest game community there is, yep ^^.

[Fuchslein.8639]

2 hours ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

Every day, upon login, one login rewards bonus chest will appear on the right side of the screen above the minimap. Clicking on it will show the current progress on the schedule and allow players to claim the current reward. The login rewards follow a specific cycle where each day you log in, you get another reward. The cycle repeats after 28 claimed rewards. Days are accumulative, so missing a day will not matter; you simply progress a day each day you login.

The reward can be claimed on any character, regardless of which one first logged in. If the player goes off-line without collecting their reward, it will still be waiting for them upon reloading the game, even if it is the following day; all that is required to receive a chest is to be online during that day, and the reward for that will wait until it is claimed.

This feature is locked for free accounts.

He was not talking about f2p accounts

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

2 minutes ago, Fuchslein.8639 said:

He was not talking about f2p accounts

He was talking about limiting the rewards to paid HoT and PoF accounts, but the rewards are already limited to paid accounts.

Since they are limited to paid accounts, why would Anet limit them further? People buying more paid accounts to get more login rewards is in their monetary favor.

[Linken.6345]

5 minutes ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

He was talking about limiting the rewards to paid HoT and PoF accounts, but the rewards are already limited to paid accounts.

Since they are limited to paid accounts, why would Anet limit them further? People buying more paid accounts to get more login rewards is in their monetary favor.

There are paid core accounts aswell those are the ones the person you respond to want gone.

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

46 minutes ago, Linken.6345 said:

There are paid core accounts aswell those are the ones the person you respond to want gone.

Paid is paid. Why should that matter for login rewards. It sounds more like stingy people don't want to spend $15-$30 depending on sale dates for an infinite source of MCs.

[Fuchslein.8639]

1 minute ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

Paid is paid. Why should that matter for login rewards. It sounds more like stingy people don't want to spend $15-$30 depending on sale dates for an infinite source of MCs.

Yeah, they paid amazon, not anet.

I have a friend who pumped all the twitch prime accounts from friends and has now 10+ of these heroic accounts ...

You can not have such a source of mystic coins, say that cm's have brought the least mc into the game BUT  "spread the love" by taking away ALL the love from CM's.
It just doesn't make sense, whether you play said cm's or not, but people swallow it.

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

2 minutes ago, Fuchslein.8639 said:

Yeah, they paid amazon, not anet.

I have a friend who pumped all the twitch prime accounts from friends and has now 10+ of these heroic accounts ...

You can not have such a source of mystic coins, say that cm's have brought the least mc into the game BUT  "spread the love" by taking away ALL the love from CM's.
It just doesn't make sense, whether you play said cm's or not, but people swallow it.

Oh removing the coins from CMs makes 0 sense. Their wording is just cover to nerf CM rewards to funnel people into EoD strikes.

 

You know what that also is? Them driving people with multiple paid accounts to buy EoD for those accounts so that they can get those weekly MCs from EoD strikes on each account.