Zhuul.1759 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Definition of WvW: large Group fights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddie.5861 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 thief always been useless even pre patch if u talking about deadeye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inso.2195 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Condi Reaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnfall.9573 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 @reddie.5861 said:thief always been useless even pre patch if u talking about deadeye.useless..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 @Burnfall.9573 said:@reddie.5861 said:thief always been useless even pre patch if u talking about deadeye.useless..? In large scale, yes, that was part of the definition of WvW from the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnfall.9573 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 @Strider Pj.2193 said:@Burnfall.9573 said:@reddie.5861 said:thief always been useless even pre patch if u talking about deadeye.useless..? In large scale, yes, that was part of the definition of WvW from the OP.Strider you know that is not true cause i can back it up with 5 years of evidence with thieves in their own forums confirming thief isn't.In fact: the most toxic classes who've been ruining wvw for competitive players was mainly thief.See how long it took Anet to nerf ghost thief in wvw. Infact, ghost thief has returned even after with the trap nerf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 @Burnfall.9573 said:@Strider Pj.2193 said:@Burnfall.9573 said:@reddie.5861 said:thief always been useless even pre patch if u talking about deadeye.useless..? In large scale, yes, that was part of the definition of WvW from the OP.Strider you know that is not true cause i can back it up with 5 years of evidences. He mentioned Dead eye. Large scale. That isnt base thief nor daredevil. Both have served a level of function in pick and surfing the edge of a Zerg, but the DE.. I just don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Guardian shouts or even DH, mace shield... anything that is not PoF spammer.so much boon corruption and unblockables that playing those weapons is now impossible, even worse... there are a few other classes non POF that would fit on the same bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronometria.3708 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 All I know is that my deadeye struggles to capture an unbuffed camp. I`m likely taking the ascended set I made for it and moving it over to a holosmith build of some sort. They seem to get endless megalasers super blast things without having to kneel in place like a lemon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman.5829 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Warrior has always been useless in WvW because of the 130 melee range. While everyone else is smacking the blip out of each other at 1200+ range, the warrior just sits there watching everyone else fight, waiting for the commander to fight and push the enemy. If a warrior goes bow or rifle, then most of the range skills are caped at 1 man target while everyone else is hitting 5 targets per skill.The warrior is the most useless class in WvW (large scale fights). A lot of people think that warrior is good and that its OP because they get owned 1 vs 1 in WvW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svarty.8019 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 @Inso.2195 said:Condi ReaperThis.They now do 1/3 of the bleeds they did yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk.5460 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 @Hitman.5829 said:Warrior has always been useless in WvW because of the 130 melee range. While everyone else is smacking the blip out of each other at 1200+ range, the warrior just sits there watching everyone else fight, waiting for the commander to fight and push the enemy. If a warrior goes bow or rifle, then most of the range skills are caped at 1 man target while everyone else is hitting 5 targets per skill.The warrior is the most useless class in WvW (large scale fights). A lot of people think that warrior is good and that its OP because they get owned 1 vs 1 in WvW.Always been useless? Have you never heard of the hammer-train? Are you new to Warrior? Winds of Disenchantment alone still makes Warrior desirable over every other profession on this poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk.5460 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 @Svarty.8019 said:@Inso.2195 said:Condi ReaperThis.They now do 1/3 of the bleeds they did yesterday.Good. It didn't promote healthy gameplay to have a build that relied on 1 trait, 1 rune 6th tier bonus (half the Runeset was Power, mind you, on a build that is 100% condition based), and slotting shout skills - not to utilize their effects, but simply because they were shouts.That being said - I now need to re-gear and re-rune my Reaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeknar.6184 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Where is Revenant in the poll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 renegade is least viable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossaber.8934 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 There are scout, roamer in wvw besides large scale fight, a class is not made for great battle doesn’t mean he can’t contribute the war in any meaningful way.Scouting, distraction, cuting off supply line, picking off reinforcements etc. There are many things to do besides large scale battle.To be contributing, is what the player do and how do they execute matters, more than what class he is running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dei Veien.2456 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 For me it is a toss up between thief and engineer.Revenant would make the list as well but since the previous scourge nerf I have seen more back line revs that deal huge damage in zergs with cor.Ranger is very useful as a healer in small team fights and also offers decentish condi cleanse from what I have heard. (Don’t play so can not confirm)Thief is very mobile but is selfish in small team and useful for stomping and removing people from fights. It is also a very strong solo roaming class with the access to sb and stealth as well as blocks.Engi offers some small manner of team support with healing turret, gyros and egun. Allternativly it offers high cc. But it is squishy and often has to completely disengage from fights if it gets focused too much.Realistically every class offers something it just depends on what you are doing in wvw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lahmia.2193 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Whoever said Warrior needs to to have their brain checked (or they forgot spellbreaker exists). Winds of disenchantment is the single strongest skill in WvW, bar none. Nothing dictates a zerg fight as much as winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlinvf.1358 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Novice Class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaraki.5784 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 @Lahmia.2193 said:Whoever said Warrior needs to to have their brain checked (or they forgot spellbreaker exists). Winds of disenchantment is the single strongest skill in WvW, bar none. Nothing dictates a zerg fight as much as winds.I don't like zerging and I mostly play war solo in WvW, there I lose almost every 1vs1 fight.Playing full ascended with raid cps build (thus a META build). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rashagar.8349 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Seeing warrior here is so weird. It's like seeing someone say guardian or elemenalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk.5460 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 @Zaraki.5784 said:@Lahmia.2193 said:Whoever said Warrior needs to to have their brain checked (or they forgot spellbreaker exists). Winds of disenchantment is the single strongest skill in WvW, bar none. Nothing dictates a zerg fight as much as winds.I don't like zerging and I mostly play war solo in WvW, there I lose almost every 1vs1 fight.Playing full ascended with raid cps build (thus a META build).Build is not going to win you a fight. You have to actually play the game to your build's strengths. That being said, a PvE build is generally going to put you at a great disadvantage in PvP 1v1's. Whether it be sPvP or WvW PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aninika.6819 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 @Zaraki.5784 said:@Lahmia.2193 said:Whoever said Warrior needs to to have their brain checked (or they forgot spellbreaker exists). Winds of disenchantment is the single strongest skill in WvW, bar none. Nothing dictates a zerg fight as much as winds.I don't like zerging and I mostly play war solo in WvW, there I lose almost every 1vs1 fight.Playing full ascended with raid cps build (thus a META build).I feel like this is a troll comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intox.6347 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Why is warrior here ? SB is meta coz of WoD. And warrior was meta long time in mellee train...For useless classes in GROUP play... thief and spec, ranger, reaper (after nerf not usable), more then 1 mesmer, engi..But it counts once is squad is full and you need to kick, when you have small group... better to take everything :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimon.7840 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 @Inso.2195 said:Condi ReaperAnd power reaper/necro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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