Ovark.2514 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Title. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinity.2876 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Uh which one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovark.2514 Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, Infinity.2876 said: Uh which one Ambition I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxoglanis.1904 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ovark.2514 said: Ambition I think. they all do the same damage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinity.2876 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) Oh...... That one....😑 I've been killed by that so many times and am not even sure how to avoid it besides playing scrapper a training purity of purpose and slotting purge gyro Also coupled with the fact that I was playing thief which has no condi cleanse I wish mesmer chaos field did the same thing Edited March 19, 2022 by Infinity.2876 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agrippastrilemma.8741 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) Every boon in the game, every damaging condition in the game, and upwards of 9k+ power damage, in one skill, with a quick, almost-unnoticeable animation. Extremely balanced. Edited March 19, 2022 by agrippastrilemma.8741 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalima.5490 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 I am obliged to tell you that there is no damage problem in the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmTheStorm.2364 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 39 minutes ago, agrippastrilemma.8741 said: Every boon in the game, every damaging condition in the game, and upwards of 9k+ power damage, in one skill, with a quick, almost-unnoticeable animation. Extremely balanced. Definitely one of those "how did you guys ever think this was ok??" moments 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, CalmTheStorm.2364 said: Definitely one of those "how did you guys ever think this was ok??" moments It's Necromancer, so it's actually more surprising people weren't expecting for Harmbinger to over-perform. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuma.1503 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) It's not often that I jump on bandwagons like these, but this is definitely one situation where the complaints are warraned. Harbinger + Support is a combination I've been doing with a friend of mine, and I've lost track of how many times I saw him move in to burst someone, pop his Elixirs and then stand there wondering why the enemy was already in downstate. This isn't a L2dodge moment because the Elixirs are just the set up for the burst. If you dodge that, you're down a dodge you need to save for the Grav Well. If you dodge the Grav well, you're out of endurance and you've got a fully blight stacked 25 might Shroud 3+4 headed your way. The 15 blight + every boon in the game is enough for a Set-up move. The blight sets you up to nuke someone with Shroud 4 and the 25 might, quickness, and fury guarantee that you'll hit big numbers. I would tweak Ambition's toss skill to give Weakness, Chill, Blind, and 10 stacks of Vuln if it hits you and significantly reduce the power damage. I'd also add a red circle indicator on the ground. This is definitely one of the high-impact skills that deserves one. The current animation is not sufficient on it's own. This would still incredibly powerful, because: 1. That's 4 cover condis if used during a condi bomb 2. The chill makes your shroud burst easier to land and 3. 10 vuln + 25 might is a very powerful damage amp for one skill. That should solidify it is a Set-up move and not a random burst skill that comes out of nowhere. Edit: I completely forgot this is AoE plasma, which makes this skill even more nuts. Edited March 19, 2022 by Kuma.1503 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazsi.2734 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 4:08 PM, agrippastrilemma.8741 said: Every boon in the game, every damaging condition in the game, and upwards of 9k+ power damage, in one skill, with a quick, almost-unnoticeable animation. Extremely balanced. No dude, you don't get it, it's fine, they dont have 60K health with shroud this time! After they oneshot you, you can just easily oneshot them back. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 What is class bias you may wonder......let me show you in a very fashionable way... 1)This is what you come up with when you work on something you secretly despise..... https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Elemental_Celerity 2)This is what your devious mind come up with when you love to bits something.... https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Elixir_of_Ambition 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazsi.2734 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 50 minutes ago, Arheundel.6451 said: What is class bias you may wonder......let me show you in a very fashionable way... 1)This is what you come up with when you work on something you secretly despise..... https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Elemental_Celerity 2)This is what your devious mind come up with when you love to bits something.... https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Elixir_of_Ambition It's funny because I'd say its the exact opposite. I design an elite that tweaks mechanics, therefore introduces extra complexity/tactics/deapth to the e-spec... or I just want to go home, my workday is already over but still have to present tomorrow... So lets make the elite do all boons, all condis and all damage. Now, where did I park my car? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaint.7461 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 the title is not entirely true, i sometimes hit for 10k on elixers . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aktium.9506 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 All the Elixirs have the same damage. Ambition hits harder consistently because the boons are applied before the elixir ever hits and it applies Blight before the damage roll as well so it always hits with the double damage from being past the Blight threshold. The problem mostly stems from the 100% Damage and Condition Duration Increase once past the 5/10/15 Blight stacks they tacked on to Elixir to make Blight less of a badly non-existent mechanic and Elixirs feel less awful and boring. Unfortunately Blight remains a badly designed mechanic despite the band-aid fix itself being broken. A full stack of 25 Might is also way too powerful to self-generate in PvP. We've had this problem with other classes who were capable of maintaining or quickly generating large might stacks on their own before and it was unbalanced then too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chokela.4823 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 It's just noobstomper build come on guys do yo all want to loop in 5 remaining builds? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugchriss.2046 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 42 minutes ago, chokela.4823 said: It's just noobstomper build come on guys do yo all want to loop in 5 remaining builds? They said it for Sick em SB, condi DH, trapper DH, FT scrapper and many more. Vindicator was nerfed, now it's your turn. It will be mech next then bladesworn. The cycle of life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Marshal.4098 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I can't do it in pvp, but when I see Harb duo with scrapper healer and manage to kill them with gunflame, I throw siege on them. Cause if you do die necros really enjoy jumping on you now. Sure give an Evade and some movement on Necro. What could go wrong with big dmg and corrupts available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic name.9127 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Em 19/03/2022 às 12:48, Stalima.5490 disse: Sou obrigado a dizer que não há nenhum problema de dano no jogo. Você provavelmente brinca com um desses danos quebrados! Estou certo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Grand Marshal.4098 said: Cause if you do die necros really enjoy jumping on you now. That's just people in wvw in general with insulated builds. That's why you take a roaming thief with you~ If you're on Gate of Madness I'm available for ego insurance~ ❤️ Edited March 22, 2022 by Azure The Heartless.3261 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalima.5490 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 On 3/22/2022 at 1:21 PM, lucsmoking.9847 said: Você provavelmente brinca com um desses danos quebrados! Estou certo? No, I am just going to meme this until it becomes the 2022 meme of gw2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberzombie.7348 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Which make me wonder why was Acidic Elixirs cut from engi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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