Mecha/ Engineer Rifle 1 Spam with multiple Traitprocs and Bot spam.

[Zok.4956]

On 11/3/2022 at 6:17 PM, Tenga.5867 said:

i was wondering, why i couldn't find any thread about this stupid Mecha/ Engineer Rifle 1 Spam with multiple Traitprocs and Bot spam in ur forums.

I am wondering, too, why you couldn't find the endless threads about Mecha.

 

On 11/3/2022 at 6:17 PM, Tenga.5867 said:

How could you even bring this awful nobrain spam into the live servers?

First answer: because a dev wanted an easy build for himself. Second answer: Because Anet tries to bring more and more LI (low intensity) decent builds in the game. Mech was the first try of this, is toned down already and maybe needs more toning down. But other classes will follow in the future with similar LI builds.

 

On 11/3/2022 at 6:17 PM, Tenga.5867 said:

are you guys finally absolute mental or do you just don't care for players that like to get into their class?

You can still get into your class. Mech does not prevent that. LI builds are (and will be) outclassed by skilled players, that is at least Anets intention.

 

On 11/3/2022 at 6:17 PM, Tenga.5867 said:

Imagine you have spend thousands of hours into ur main class and then suddenly you get killed in wvw by a player just using his autoattack

Well, I guess then, you did something wrong if you spent all your time with your own class and no time for the classes that you are fighting against and how to counter them. An autoattack-mech usually does not win a 1v1 fight against a skilled player.

Mecha is not the best 1v1-roaming build, they are not a meta-zerg-class. In a cloud-situation they can do some range pressure, kill unaware players, kill downs and they can be annoying. But you can counter them.

 

On 11/3/2022 at 6:17 PM, Tenga.5867 said:

You guys are not balancing at all! All you do is changing and flipping stuff over, for the most part for worse. its like this for 10yrs now.

This I can agree to. But with new management and their new "balance philosophy" they want to change that. Maybe it will work, maybe not.

 

[Sansar.1302]

LI builds should not exist as it dont fit this game imo

[Dawdler.8521]

42 minutes ago, Sansar.1302 said:

LI builds should not exist as it dont fit this game imo

Permastealth in combat dont fit the game either but its been 10 years so there you go.

[Sansar.1302]

28 minutes ago, Dawdler.8521 said:

Permastealth in combat dont fit the game either but its been 10 years so there you go.

That is false there is no Permastealth ( yes some classes can stealth for a while in combat but not anyway close to perma )

[Tenga.5867]

listen guys, i am not complaining about reveal itself, i am complaining how it is applied. without any intended player input, it just procs random every icd when u get hit by the mech or the rifle spam.

i also do not complain about "i cannot beat mechs"
i do beat them. but i am annoyed their rifle 1 spam proccs multiple traits and has way to much dmg for this low effort input without any brain involved. thats what pissing me off.

 

also there are way more things in gw2 that actually are super weird and noob friendly, like an integrated aimbot for example. it should not exist in a pvp relevant enviorment.

there is a reason why gw2 got kicked out of esl years ago

Edited November 7, 2022 by Tenga.5867

[Sahne.6950]

1 hour ago, Sansar.1302 said:

That is false there is no Permastealth ( yes some classes can stealth for a while in combat but not anyway close to perma )

oh boy are you wrong xD

there is permastealthbuilds in the game. Even after the SA nerfs. Daredevil with shortbow and boundingdodger mostly, p/p + shortbow is fairly popular atm and has no problems permastealthing, even without needing to use a single utilityskill.

Edited November 7, 2022 by Sahne.6950

[Tenga.5867]

ofc there is permanent stealth, every bound daredevil can with dager/pistol and deadeye can aswell. even a pu core mes can up to 30sec and a chrono can extend that to over a minute.

[Esufer.8762]

if mechanist is super braindead don't you just 2 shot it idgi

[noneHotBuildTest.7251]

On 11/7/2022 at 10:29 PM, Esufer.8762 said:

if mechanist is super braindead don't you just 2 shot it idgi

 

A mecha 1111111111 and oneshot you.

[Dawdler.8521]

BREAKING: Glass cannon does alot of damage. "I saw this guy come in and do alot of damage!" read the shocking report from eyewitnesses.

AD: Taboo builds or common sense? You wouldnt believe how many glass cannons these condi bunkers has killed! 

[Sahne.6950]

11 minutes ago, Dawdler.8521 said:

"I saw this guy come in and do alot of damage!" read the shocking report from eyewitnesses.

posts like this are the reason i come to the forums.

The post above dawdler´s....  not so much.

Edited November 10, 2022 by Sahne.6950

[TrollingDemigod.3041]

7 hours ago, Dawdler.8521 said:

Glass cannon does alot of damage. 

Ele running fully naked throwing wet noodles at enemies: I beg your pardon?

[noneHotBuildTest.7251]

On 11/7/2022 at 9:54 PM, Tenga.5867 said:

listen guys, i am not complaining about reveal itself, i am complaining how it is applied. without any intended player input, it just procs random every icd when u get hit by the mech or the rifle spam.

i also do not complain about "i cannot beat mechs"
i do beat them. but i am annoyed their rifle 1 spam proccs multiple traits and has way to much dmg for this low effort input without any brain involved. thats what pissing me off.

 

also there are way more things in gw2 that actually are super weird and noob friendly, like an integrated aimbot for example. it should not exist in a pvp relevant enviorment.

there is a reason why gw2 got kicked out of esl years ago

That is not "Prohibited posts" or "Datamined or Leaked Content".
NO MORE BAN PLS.
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Yeap, 111 build is not fun.

That's a No-Skill Way to Play a GAME! This whay we should nerf engi.

[TheGrimm.5624]

1 hour ago, noneHotBuildTest.7251 said:

That is not "Prohibited posts" or "Datamined or Leaked Content".
NO MORE BAN PLS.
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Yeap, 111 build is not fun.

That's a No-Skill Way to Play a GAME! This whay we should nerf engi.

 

Unless I mis-understand the notes they are addressing this a bit in the Nov 29 patch:

 

Engineer

Core

• Rifle Burst: This skill now fires one piercing projectile before the grenade instead of two. Increased piercing projectile power coefficient from 0.3 to 0.4 in PvE only. Grenade power coefficient increased from 0.4 to 0.6 in PvE only. Increased skill animation speed; total animation duration remains the same as previous version in PvE only.

 

Now the question is 'Rifle Burst: This skill now fires one piercing projectile before the grenade instead of two.' is that all game modes which I assumed was yes. If so that removes a third of the fire and extends the time before aim assisted rocket triggers.   

[Longpoke.8290]

In other words, EoD elites are just ca n cer

Edited November 15, 2022 by Longpoke.8290

[noneHotBuildTest.7251]

On 11/15/2022 at 3:13 PM, TheGrimm.5624 said:

 

Unless I mis-understand the notes they are addressing this a bit in the Nov 29 patch:

 

Engineer

Core

• Rifle Burst: This skill now fires one piercing projectile before the grenade instead of two. Increased piercing projectile power coefficient from 0.3 to 0.4 in PvE only. Grenade power coefficient increased from 0.4 to 0.6 in PvE only. Increased skill animation speed; total animation duration remains the same as previous version in PvE only.

 

Now the question is 'Rifle Burst: This skill now fires one piercing projectile before the grenade instead of two.' is that all game modes which I assumed was yes. If so that removes a third of the fire and extends the time before aim assisted rocket triggers.   

That is not "Prohibited posts" or "Datamined or Leaked Content" or "Duplicate Posts"
NO MORE BAN PLS.
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It won't fix the problem.
It does 3 hits instead of 1 with roughly the same overall DPS as before. It feels a lot stronger, but that's placebo.

The main damage mostly comes from Aim Assisted Rocket and Static Discharge.

What we need is core trait nerf and mecha pet nerf.

[Sahne.6950]

1 hour ago, noneHotBuildTest.7251 said:

What we need is core trait nerf

🤢

[freakcoco.4287]

On 11/17/2022 at 4:53 PM, noneHotBuildTest.7251 said:

That is not "Prohibited posts" or "Datamined or Leaked Content" or "Duplicate Posts"
NO MORE BAN PLS.
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It won't fix the problem.
It does 3 hits instead of 1 with roughly the same overall DPS as before. It feels a lot stronger, but that's placebo.

The main damage mostly comes from Aim Assisted Rocket and Static Discharge.

What we need is core trait nerf and mecha pet nerf.

I don't care about mecha, but core trait nerf will impact all of engi build.

It will make engi die on wvw, there have not much role of engi can fit in zerg .

 

[Xenesis.6389]

1 hour ago, freakcoco.4287 said:

It will make engi die on wvw, there have not much role of engi can fit in zerg .

Wait for it.....

/laughsinthiefandranger

/thencriesinthiefandranger

[Karagee.6830]

1 hour ago, Xenesis.6389 said:

Wait for it.....

/laughsinthiefandranger

/thencriesinthiefandranger

Not surprised about this post. Like. At all.

We will mark the day this guy contributes anything to a discussion and it will become a GW2 mandated holiday.

Is it too hard to write something about mech and downstate, as everyone else has done in this thread?

 

Edited November 19, 2022 by Karagee.6830

[noneHotBuildTest.7251]

On 11/20/2022 at 12:25 AM, freakcoco.4287 said:

I don't care about mecha, but core trait nerf will impact all of engi build.

It will make engi die on wvw, there have not much role of engi can fit in zerg .

 

That is not "Prohibited posts" or "Datamined or Leaked Content" or "Duplicate Posts"
NO MORE BAN PLS.
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Engineer has continued to be a dominant force in wvw.

A little nerf will not let it die.

[Sahne.6950]

On 11/21/2022 at 7:24 AM, noneHotBuildTest.7251 said:

A little nerf will not let it die.

so... thats your goal?

[Biermeister.4678]

Rifle 1 has a secondary of grenade shot along with using a bursting signet such as flame poison or torment it makes it also crowd control hence the reveal trait will work, anything to help kill a superspeed stealth thief is good for the game

[Biermeister.4678]

Rifle 1 has a secondary of grenade shot along with using a bursting signet such as flame poison or torment it makes it also crowd control hence the reveal trait will work, anything to help kill a superspeed stealth thief is good for the game

[Cuks.8241]

Rifle mechs are kinda crap in pvp modes. 

Is it a silly annoying spec? Yes. But complaining about it in spvp and wvw. Well you really shouldnt it makes you look kinda bad.