Disabled due to degenerate gameplay.

[apharma.3741]

Chaotic Interruption mirage wasn't close to what catalyst currently is with Written in Stone, yet the trait was disabled due to "degenerate gameplay" as the devs said.

So why isn't Written in Stone disabled due to degenerate gameplay?

I also expect vast sweeping nerfs to earth trait line and catalyst like we saw to mesmer, maybe even make the trait entirely unusable for years right 🙂

Edited July 10, 2023 by apharma.3741
auto correct put weaver instead of catalyst.

[Khalisto.5780]

Weaver?

 

[Vinny.7260]

They're probably gathering statistics still. 😉

[Paradoxoglanis.1904]

1 hour ago, apharma.3741 said:

I also expect vast sweeping nerfs to earth trait line and catalyst like we saw to mesmer, maybe even make the trait entirely unusable for years right

What do you mean earth was already unusable for years except for stone heart memes on support tempest.

[Vinny.7260]

7 minutes ago, Paradoxoglanis.1904 said:

What do you mean earth was already unusable for years except for stone heart memes on support tempest.

Death Magic/Curses Harbinger would like to play too please!

Death Magic was already unusable for years except for MM memes on Necro!

[hanabal lecter.2495]

51 minutes ago, Vinny.7260 said:

Death Magic/Curses Harbinger would like to play too please!

Death Magic was already unusable for years except for MM memes on Necro!

Yes please disable written in stone,death magic in necro, pistol 5 smoke field on thief.

[Azure The Heartless.3261]

28 minutes ago, hanabal lecter.2495 said:

pistol 5 smoke field on thief.

:J

[Khalisto.5780]

53 minutes ago, hanabal lecter.2495 said:

Yes please disable written in stone,death magic in necro, pistol 5 smoke field on thief.

That's a trade I'd get with a happy smile

[Paradoxoglanis.1904]

3 hours ago, Vinny.7260 said:

Death Magic/Curses Harbinger would like to play too please!

Death Magic was already unusable for years except for MM memes on Necro!

Bring back minionmancer meta

[apharma.3741]

Point is the double standards on show by the Dev team. Written in Stone is obviously causing a lot of problems but instead of a quick disable of the trait nothing, silence. If this was the pink class or smokey class it'd be disabled in a heartbeat and the trait nerfed so hard it would be unused everywhere for years.

Edited July 11, 2023 by apharma.3741

[Stand The Wall.6987]

36 minutes ago, apharma.3741 said:

Point is the double standards on show by the Dev team. Written in Stone is obviously causing a lot of problems but instead of a quick disable of the trait nothing, silence. If this was the pink class or smokey class it'd be disabled in a heartbeat and the trait needed so hard it would be unused everywhere for years.

chaotic interruption existed since launch and only got nerfed cuz ppl cried about mirage. it would suck to see anet continue that way of balancing no matter who the target is

[felix.2386]

arc divider damage was nerfed by 25% in 2 weeks after its rework.

i doubt anyone remembers it, because it wasn't even good, only a few people running meme glass canon build which dies in a few auto attacks.

and turned into a complete garbage skill that does less DPS than auto attacks with 1.8 second cast time.

Edited July 11, 2023 by felix.2386

[Leonidrex.5649]

1 hour ago, felix.2386 said:

arc divider damage was nerfed by 25% in 2 weeks after its rework.

i doubt anyone remembers it, because it wasn't even good, only a few people running meme glass canon build which dies in a few auto attacks.

and turned into a complete garbage skill that does less DPS than auto attacks with 1.8 second cast time.

anyone members phantasmal warlock? kitten skill with low dmg.
anet : nerfs by 50%
also anet : lets remove 1 phantasm so it loses 50% of its damage again 😄
0.75s cast time skill that does so little damage auto-attack seems strong in comparison

[Dawdler.8521]

11 hours ago, apharma.3741 said:

disabled due to "degenerate gameplay"

This argument seem very weak since the thief should have been disabled from 2012 then.

[Kuma.1503]

30 minutes ago, Leonidrex.5649 said:

anyone members phantasmal warlock? kitten skill with low dmg.
anet : nerfs by 50%
also anet : lets remove 1 phantasm so it loses 50% of its damage again 😄
0.75s cast time skill that does so little damage auto-attack seems strong in comparison

Phantasmal Warlock - The mesmer summons a phantasm that will channel a beam, dealing a mild inconvenince to the target and severe emotional damage to the user. 

 

[magickthief.6492]

Mirage was degenerate in times where everything was strong. Odd comparison. No, you can't have it back.

[WhoWantsAHug.3186]

1 hour ago, Kuma.1503 said:

Phantasmal Warlock - The mesmer summons a phantasm that will channel a beam, dealing a mild inconvenince to the target and severe emotional damage to the user. 

 

I'm still salty to this day that they obliterated staff for power mesmer. 

[apharma.3741]

1 hour ago, magickthief.6492 said:

Mirage was degenerate in times where everything was strong. Odd comparison. No, you can't have it back.

It was a nasty build but you didn't see 3-5 per team and 6-10 per game. It also didn't render all other roles obsolete like we are seeing with catalyst.

[Trevor Boyer.6524]

14 hours ago, apharma.3741 said:

Point is the double standards on show by the Dev team. Written in Stone is obviously causing a lot of problems but instead of a quick disable of the trait nothing, silence

Working as intended, cause funny.

[Vinny.7260]

14 hours ago, apharma.3741 said:

Point is the double standards on show by the Dev team. Written in Stone is obviously causing a lot of problems but instead of a quick disable of the trait nothing, silence. If this was the pink class or smokey class it'd be disabled in a heartbeat and the trait nerfed so hard it would be unused everywhere for years.

I will say that the overwhelming silence is putrid. It's a lil hurtful in a way. If you have a build that is heavily overperforming to the point there are video memes, people are agreeing with someone people typically DON'T agree with, and you have people who have never played Elementalist playing Elementalist and getting a strong W:L ratio, maaaaaybe there's something to look at.

The biggest issue here is the lack of COMMUNICATION that there will be fixes, because currently damage to the community is being done and making people lose interest. If they'd at least communicate that they're looking into Catalyst, we'd at least be less up in arms about the situation. The fact the only way we can feel reassured is by being sarcastic and coping via making posts is heavily disappointing.

That'll be my only rant about the whole Catalyst dealio.

Edited July 11, 2023 by Vinny.7260

[felix.2386]

On 7/10/2023 at 11:07 PM, Leonidrex.5649 said:

anyone members phantasmal warlock? kitten skill with low dmg.
anet : nerfs by 50%
also anet : lets remove 1 phantasm so it loses 50% of its damage again 😄
0.75s cast time skill that does so little damage auto-attack seems strong in comparison

but wasnt that the time staff mirage was unkillable side node that could hold 1v3 against top players?

Edited July 13, 2023 by felix.2386

[Leonidrex.5649]

35 minutes ago, felix.2386 said:

but wasnt that the time staff mirage was unkillable side node that could hold 1v3 against top players?

no? and even if it did, what does nerfing damage of a skill that hits for 2k help with surviving 1v3? xd

[Sleepwalker.1398]

On 7/11/2023 at 8:37 AM, Paradoxoglanis.1904 said:

Bring back minionmancer meta

Those are currently AFK farming in Domain of Kourna.

[felix.2386]

12 minutes ago, Leonidrex.5649 said:

no? and even if it did, what does nerfing damage of a skill that hits for 2k help with surviving 1v3? xd

then idk lol

[lovemghool.7613]

Disable something related to Cata? That is not going to happen and you can see all this is intentional. CMC meant to overbuff his main and at the same time nerf the competition that can give it a bit of a rough time.