Echostorm.9143 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Mirage is doing a little too well in WvW so we're going to nerf it in PVE. 🥺 13 2 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvarEriksson.2498 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, Echostorm.9143 said: Mirage is doing a little too well in WvW so we're going to nerf it in PVE. 🥺 Why they don’t split balance between WvW and PvE is baffling. 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teknomancer.4895 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just now, IvarEriksson.2498 said: Why they don’t split balance between WvW and PvE is baffling. They do (even in this patch list), just very selectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvarEriksson.2498 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just now, Teknomancer.4895 said: They do (even in this patch list), just very selectively. What’s the reason for not going all the way? I can’t see a single reason for it to be the way it is now. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beddo.1907 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 29 minutes ago, Rosey.1608 said: "Interesting" to see a bunch of nerfs to a ton of PVE builds that aren't getting a ton of usage (condi mirage and condi quickness untamed stand out in particular, but the argument can be made for condi holo as well), but zero nerfs to herald still. Glad that nonsense gets to continue. Give herald alac sometime soon and we won't need any other classes in the game. And still no fix for scrapper quickness. Very disappointed, but what's new. Not surprised that it's getting nerfs again, can't seem to let that class perform well in any capacity for longer than like a month. Seriously, way harsh on condi mirage in particular, I still barely see the build even if it's high performing right now. No boon build should go past 36k rule. No matter the popularity, the build did 37k and got bonked a bit back into boons with dps nerf and might buff. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alva.4590 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Mirage being worse than before November with those changes. GG anet. It would be very justified though, if Mirage didn't have such a high skillfloor. Other classes are very easy to play compared to Mirage and hit 40k + very easily. On Mirage you have to watch out for every little thing to do somewhat decent even. In relation to it's difficulty the numbers past-patch will just not justify playing this class any further - again! 21 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueBalony.4357 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Why do we have classes at this point. Scrapper is just becoming copy pasta Barrier Scourge. Whats next giving legends to thief? 9 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mypinkbunny.4513 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 can staff 2 on theif not be a lock please 5 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauti.3520 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Love to see Might with no Opportunity Cost for Quicktamed. We can bring fair Might now without anything or heavy Might with Sun Spirit + Jungle Prowler. Great boost. Also welcome back(?) greatsword and probably Arrow Cart Build. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Hey guys, take a look at power berserker's performance in PVP as well. Thanks. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexZero.7910 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 9 minutes ago, IvarEriksson.2498 said: What’s the reason for not going all the way? I can’t see a single reason for it to be the way it is now. Too much work. They don't get paid enough to do the level of balance in the timeframe you want. It took a week to fix gliding in WvW, you think they can feasibly balance all skills in WvW each quarter ? 3 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAlcedo.3281 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Atleast, when i play Quickness Dps Zerker, i can blame anet for doing subpar dps 😄 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueBalony.4357 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just now, TexZero.7910 said: Too much work. They don't get paid enough to do the level of balance in the timeframe you want. It took a week to fix gliding in WvW, you think they can feasibly balance all skills in WvW each quarter ? they could if they wanted to, but why ? people will still buy gems and expacs no matter the state of the game. Anet learned after 2 expacs to not put effort in and they still see some level of profits. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XECOR.2814 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) Surely this patch will balance a couple of builds that everyone knows about that are destroying any semblance of balance in wvw mid and small scale. Joke patch LUL Edit: For low iq people, its sarcasm. Edited January 12 by XECOR.2814 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirius.4510 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 I like ranger GS hopefully being good again (that was on my 2024 wish-list 😉), but: 19 hours ago, Rubi Bayer.8493 said: Swoop: Increased the power coefficient from 1.0 to 2.18 in PvE only. I don't think this specific thing is the right move. Forced movement skills should ideally be utility, not part of your rotation. I'd prefer the auto chain and maul/hilt bash were able to compensate for swoop not doing much damage. 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Francois.4328 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Ignore the whiners. The damage numbers in this game right now are so over-tuned that the nerfs are more than justified. 1 4 3 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amantiel.3542 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dahkeus.8243 said: Hmm...this looks very...light. Kind of a shame because there seem to be a lot of outstanding issues that are unaddressed here. Also surprised to see Relic of the Flock buffed. It's already a good relic and this seems to just make it more efficient at keeping allies alive. They actively say why, quite a few of the changes are a "we're doing this for now because we don't know how the new weapon will change things" However, quite a lot of the changes are just odd. Even if they "overperform" slightly, why focus on lesser used builds and actively ignore the MAIN ones that are overperforming even more? Edited January 12 by Amantiel.3542 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Marshal.4098 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 A whole lot of nothing for warrior I see. Natural Healing is still in the game anet. But instead go fix reversal of fortune and make it usable on air, while full counter cannot work when jumping or the numerous other bugs on warrior exist. 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Bauglyr.9726 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 19 hours ago, Rubi Bayer.8493 said: Transfusion: This trait now increases the cooldown of Garish Pillar to 60 seconds in WvW only. Goodbye heal scourge. 1 1 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magolith.9412 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Lame 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekk.6789 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Janky forced usage of Energy Meld still not instant cast. Renegade still ignored. Charged Mists still forced. Herald still the best elite spec. Frigid Blitz change unneeded; It's a gap closer and not a DPS skill. Also great at getting yourself killing on sab firewall when you fat finger it. I guess it can have use in PvP maybe? I don't know. I don't PvP. Temporal rift time lowered, cool I guess? More PvP changes? Echoing Eruption blast finishers reduced. Uh I mean, you know, like, I guess some people used it to blast might at the start of encounters. Doubt anyone cares about using it for self might. Leviathan Strength nerf to be expected. People willing to deal with the Energy Meld Jank were putting out a lot of damage. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlnSedai.2793 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) Mirage changes are horrific, Anet, please, reconsider it. You already can't really play Condi Axe Mirage on several raid encounters because of forced movements and general awkwardness of the specialization, but after November patch you could at least justify this choice in terms of raw damage output. Now with this change axe mirage will return to its grave once again AND Chaos trait nerfs are the lethal blow to Condi Alac Mirage (and to meme Chaos Condi Dagger Mirage) builds. Also, changes aimed at support chrono in WvW will murder roamer Power Shatter Chrono as well. Another weird decision about Condi Quick Untamed: the real way to improve this build is to give it a bit of stability sharing. Without it and with these damage nerfs, playing condi quick untamed would be a huge disadvantage to any group you'll join, since it cannot bring anything truly unique to the table and it doesn't provide stability. Edited January 12 by AlnSedai.2793 18 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadnir.5038 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 41 minutes ago, JDub.1530 said: Am I misreading something? The changes to Radiant Fire are stated to enabled off hands other than Torch, but it seems like it's packing all the benefits into Torch instead. My thoughts, exactly. It look like they will do the exact opposite of what they said they would do. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt Crunch.7058 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) After years of Guardian being the dominant support in WvW we finally start to see the viability of other professions like Chrono. But now 3 months after the changes we get this knee-jerk reactionary balance update to make sure Chrono can't compete with Guard.... and on top of that lets buff Guard even more!!! Do you not realize that the meta is STALE thanks to this garbage??? This is because a particular blue class is doing everything to high levels of success right now and it hurts all other professions because it constantly feels as if one is wasting their time if not playing Anet's favorite. And so the calls for Guardian nerfs won't stop, so Guardian mains won't be happy, because no one else is happy playing something sub-par. Stop this BS of making sure that Guardian reigns supreme..... it's choking the life out of the game for F's sake. Focus on making sure they do ONE THING super well and everything else just "ok" so you can make room for other actors to join the show Edited January 12 by Cpt Crunch.7058 various typos 28 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalni.3864 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Yet still no rifle buffs for warrior. It's been 84 years... 14 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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