Glaring problem with Illuminating Amnytas [Merged]

[Mithyra.2710]

Why is there even a Starlight Lantern placed INSIDE the Great Debate Hall? That place requires starting Lyhr's escort event, which needs 5 people to start. 

PvE Legendary armor is going to end up nigh impossible to craft for any late starter/new player, unless they able to get 4 kind players to help them 6-18times

[Linken.6345]

31 minutes ago, Mithyra.2710 said:

Why is there even a Starlight Lantern placed INSIDE the Great Debate Hall? That place requires starting Lyhr's escort event, which needs 5 people to start. 

PvE Legendary armor is going to end up nigh impossible to craft for any late starter/new player, unless they able to get 4 kind players to help them 6-18times

Well you can always try to get 10 together and tackle raids.

[notebene.3190]

It wasn’t all that bad. I did 6 map completes with characters and elected to do 12 more with my main. I joined when I saw it advertised. I advertised a few times myself. Don’t think I waited more than 15-30 min to start. Always stayed to do the final steps once it opened. Think we failed maybe once or twice, though not important to getting the lantern.

[Eekasqueak.7850]

Nayos lacking map complete rewards entirely is worse. 

[TheNecrosanct.4028]

27 minutes ago, Eekasqueak.7850 said:

Nayos lacking map complete rewards entirely is worse. 

It doesn't lack map completion rewards. The map just isn't complete yet. Once the 3rd and final part is added with next release you'll get your map rewards.

[illuminati.8453]

They need to make the escort start with just one player. 

[TheNurgle.4825]

Gen3 leggy weapons with EoD map's jade lanterns send regards. Jade lanterns are "locked" behind meta map events on 3 maps from 4. Currently it can take days or weeks to get it done for 1 weapon.

[Pifil.5193]

13 hours ago, TheNecrosanct.4028 said:

It doesn't lack map completion rewards. The map just isn't complete yet. Once the 3rd and final part is added with next release you'll get your map rewards.

I got 8000xp for each map completion for the first third of the map, nothing for the second. They may leave it at that but I'm hoping they'll reset map completion and give proper map rewards, though.

[firedragon.8953]

18 hours ago, illuminati.8453 said:

They need to make the escort start with just one player. 

Honestly, I think this is the best solution.

Once the people get their masteries (pretty much already) and completed the legendary armor, I'm sure most will leave SoTO maps when the next expac comes out. I feel these maps are going to be a ghost town since SoTO's replayability loop is heavily focused on Obsidian Armor. I just want to craft one Obsidian Armor set, and I even I feel a bit anxious that one day Convergences and metas are only going to be full once or twice a day during prime times, neverminded lanterns/POIs tucked behind smaller side metas that the OP is talking about here. Hopefully devs will consider things like current scaling and the 5-player escort mechanics before or when they release the next expac.

A bonus tip for those trying to do it and having difficulty. Make sure you complete the rest of the map's lanterns, and then when you finally grab this lantern and the other one locked behind the Isgarren barriers event (completing the lantern lighting), you can quickly port out of the map (e.g., Mistlock Sanctuary) and come back and grab it again for a little "two for one" deal. It at least will save some time waiting around for 5 other players and event timers to pop.

Edited March 11 by firedragon.8953

[Zera.9435]

Man I'm glad I finished my 3 armor sets when I did.  You'd best work on it now while people are still playing SotO. At the very least for now just focus on the kitten that requires other players.

 

[SinisterSlay.6973]

Best solution is remove that from the legendaries entirely.  Stupid pointless thing.

[Garrison Storm.3046]

3 hours ago, SinisterSlay.6973 said:

Best solution is remove that from the legendaries entirely.  Stupid pointless thing.

Map completion (or the near-equivalent) has always been a part of the Legendary journey... I don't have an issue with it.  However unlike weapons, different mechanics where you don't have to repeat all the same tasks six times for the completion of one set of armor would have been reasonable... Similarly to not having to repeat the collection process for crafting a second identical Gen2 weapon... I understand the difference is that each of the six pieces is unique, rather than duplicated, but still... it is a lot of repetition that could have been handled differently...   

[TheNurgle.4825]

22 hours ago, SinisterSlay.6973 said:

Best solution is remove that from the legendaries entirely.  Stupid pointless thing.

It is not pointless. Issue is that one lantern put behind something annoying ruin experience for anyone. Like Inner nayos laterns are fine.

[Cameirus.8407]

was waiting for nearly an hour in amyntas for the lhyr event to trigger, even with a LFG up for it....

dont lock map completion/lanterns behind events that require 5 man triggers.

Behind events is fine, as long as a player does not need to rely on others on dead maps, especially dead maps that only get a short window before a meta which closes the map, as the only time they are populated...

Edited March 14 by Cameirus.8407

[Omega.6801]

This will only get worse when the next"""expansion""" hits. I doubt things will change though, ANet has been putting these POIs into the maps ever since so I guess they think this is peak map design.

Edited March 14 by Omega.6801

[TheNecrosanct.4028]

On 3/10/2024 at 8:46 PM, Pifil.5193 said:

I got 8000xp for each map completion for the first third of the map, nothing for the second. They may leave it at that but I'm hoping they'll reset map completion and give proper map rewards, though.

Well, you're certainly not going to get 8,000XP more than once for a single map, but you will get proper map rewards once the map is actually complete.

They used to do it the other way around. Bjora Marches or Drizzlewood Coast, for example, which were both introduced in 2 phases instead of all at once, gave map rewards when you completed the first half, but then no map rewards when you completed the second half because you already got them. Now they're doing it the other way around. This will not be a case of Southsun Cove, where you only get XP because the map is nothing but a handful of WP's and PoI's.

[Crystal Paladin.3871]

On 3/10/2024 at 1:53 PM, illuminati.8453 said:

They need to make the escort start with just one player. 

vote +1

[Surelia.2651]

This is what I have done every time:

Check event timers Defense of of Amnytas.  Make sure I am not on the map during meta time.  I go about 35 min before.  Use the zone chat to call folks, LINK the waypoint for them in the chat box (have tagged up sometimes too).  Four other people inevitable always show. 

[FillyMuffinz.5936]

No idea if this is going to help anyone but I will try to share my method:

You can start the 5/5 event gathering on your own.

At least for me it has always worked up until today so I assume unless it gets patched, it might always be possible.

I step into the circle to get the +1 and then just repeatedly log out/back in through the character select screen and for some reason it counts a +1 when logging back in.
No idea why but at least for me it has always been working.

Try it out, it might depend on how fast you can log back in etc. no guarantees.

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

I found out this trick on Reddit:

Go to Character Select Screen and back rapidly and you can get the event to trigger on your own.

[Nemesis.2019]

The event also has diminishing returns, after you do it like 4 times in a row you don't get a chest with map currency, they are making us do map comp over and over, block Lantern/POI and the event stops rewarding , there are so many bad designs starting with EoD and just getting worse with SOTO..

[Iasuu.9578]

Please delete this BS. Why are there starlight locked behind event?? This is NOT GOOD DESIGN.

Edited May 2 by Iasuu.9578

[Vayne.8563]

On 3/11/2024 at 5:43 AM, TheNurgle.4825 said:

Gen3 leggy weapons with EoD map's jade lanterns send regards. Jade lanterns are "locked" behind meta map events on 3 maps from 4. Currently it can take days or weeks to get it done for 1 weapon.

Not sure how it can take weeks. I'm pretty sure I could do 2 metas a day. Even if you fail a couple of times on DE, and you shouldn't fail that often, it should be under a week.

[QueenKeriti.5176]

14 minutes ago, Iasuu.9578 said:

Please delete this BS. Why are there starlight locked behind event?? This is NOT GOOD DESIGN.

Iirc, the only one gated now is the one behind Isgarren's ward, which can be feasibly done solo (still sucks, though, and I wish it were brought outside like Lyhr's was). Rest shouldn't be gated behind any events that I can recall.

[Futa.4375]

I started a new account because I was bored of my main and most events on SotO maps are dead, even while asking for help I have to wait an amount of time I have never waited in any map before. Remember you have to complete them all for mastery points and achievements.

Way to go ANet, I'm sure you couldn't have seen this coming. And it hasn't even been a year since release, HoT maps are still active everywhere. I don't see how we can trust that GW3 will be any good.