ZephidelGRS.9520 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 hours ago, Chyro.1462 said: Just curious if someone can tell me which if any builds use Grieving as their optimal dps set? I always thought it looks really strong for a power build with built-in condis. But when I tried it on ele which I thought to be a great candidate on it (cause a lot of the power skills have burning on it and it gets free burn duration + runes of baltha) it always turned out worse than pure power or pure condi - though that may be due to lack of skill in power rotations on my end. Grieving feels like something only Firebrand could make it work, and even then I’d question if it’s even “optimal”. It only works because it can achieve 100% burn duration on its F1 skills through traits alone and Balth rune, leaving the Sigil slots still completely free like a normal build. Comparably to Ele, Ele needs a Smoldering sigil to achieve only 90% burn duration, which could have been something else in a normal Viper’s build that brings more DPS (an Earth sigil to trigger Fractal relic more frequently, for example). Also relying on Burning alone for condi Ele is bad gameplay, since the damage of a typical condi Ele build is split between Burning and Bleeding. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chyro.1462 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 6 minutes ago, ZephidelGRS.9520 said: Grieving feels like something only Firebrand could make it work, and even then I’d question if it’s even “optimal”. It only works because it can achieve 100% burn duration on its F1 skills through traits alone and Balth rune, leaving the Sigil slots still completely free like a normal build. Comparably to Ele, Ele needs a Smoldering sigil to achieve only 90% burn duration, which could have been something else in a normal Viper’s build that brings more DPS (an Earth sigil to trigger Fractal relic more frequently, for example). Also relying on Burning alone for condi Ele is bad gameplay, since the damage of a typical condi Ele build is split between Burning and Bleeding. I wouldn't call it bad gameplay to focus on burning. It's not optimal for dps of course, but depending on the player it may be a good choice to go for a low intensity build. A lesser skilled player with lower apm may end up pulling more dps with a low intensity build that lets them focus more on the fight mechanics than running a more involved build and doing more mistakes. But that's kinda opinion based and offtopic anyhow, so I'll leave it at that ^^ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo G.4501 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 On 3/25/2024 at 6:26 AM, HnRkLnXqZ.1870 said: I keep asking for negative stat-combos. Higher positive improvements in return for weaker other stats: Blood Berserker + Power + Ferocity - Vitality Frenzy Berserker + Power + Precision - Vitality Lethal Force + Precision + Ferocity - Toughness - Vitality Pestilence + Condition Damage + Expertise - Vitality - Toughness Doom (inverted celestial) + power - all other attributes Lucky Dice - vitality - toughness + all other attributes Monolith + Vitality + Toughness - Power - Precision - Condition Damage - Expertise Chanter + Concentration - Expertise Could be a fun idea. Maybe test it out by limiting it to a specific trinket first or chest piece only. Then expand the slots over time until that breaking limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 I would love to see Major: Power | Expertise Minor: Precision | Ferocity. Call it Dark Templar. I'd also like to see a version that is precision major and Expertise minor. There are power builds that still rely on soft condis like cripple, vuln, and immobilize that would thrive under such a stat set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusticeRetroHunter.7684 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 On 3/24/2024 at 11:23 AM, firedragon.8953 said: Did someone say single attribute armor? No? I'll take toughness please. Yes, just toughness. We can call it Pacifist. I wouldn’t mind going full heal power on my supports. I think the idea is kinda cool but maybe a bit too niche… stats rely a bit to heavily on other stats to be effective so makes it kinda tough to sign onto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeTect.5918 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Major: Power, Precision Minor: ferocity, toughness Major: Power, toughness Minor: preci, fero Major: Preci, concentration Minor: Power, fero Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Highness.9023 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 I would like the pvp exclusives to be available in all game modes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZvolTx.3165 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Vanguard: POWER PRECISION toughness vitality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeyeti.8347 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Good call , i think i would not be harsh work to add new stats. As i play a lot of healer i really kind of like the idea of an offensiv healer , like power/précision major and healing/concentration minor , same kind for a condi version of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirage.8046 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 On 3/24/2024 at 1:53 AM, StraightPath.3972 said: There are certain niche builds (or e-specs) that could really use the love from tailored gear stat sets. Here are my suggestions: Retributor - Power + Precision major, healing power + ferocity minor. A power stat set for dps healers. Possible users: Vindicator (he needs a dps healer gear set badly), Healer warriors based. AND BASED. I've wanted this for heal warrior since there are really no competitive choices for a warrior heal and dps build apart from berserker. how about a dps + support stat without the unnecessary stats of celestial or too supportive stats like ritualist? power concentration condition damage expertise concentration healing power expertise condition damage power ferocity healing power concentration (the 3rd one would be good if you had access to precision from traits or high crit chance from modified boons like fury or resolution). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeTect.5918 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) I would like to see 5-6 stat combos. Specifically something like: Power Precision Ferocity Toughness Vitality Concentration or Power Precision Ferocity Toughness Concentration or marauders toughness edition (demolishers of PvP): Power Precision Ferocity Toughness Edited April 21 by SeTect.5918 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hash.8462 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 18 minutes ago, SeTect.5918 said: or a marauders toughness edition: Power Precision Ferocity Toughness Is called Demolisher and is already in game (but only for PvP)... By the way, I'd like it too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeTect.5918 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 41 minutes ago, hash.8462 said: Is called Demolisher and is already in game (but only for PvP)... By the way, I'd like it too. Yeah I know, tho its kinda dumb its for pvp only. Condi gets to use stuff like trailblazers and for power its like "no toughness for you". Condi is far ahead when it comes to solo play in open world while almost all power builds deal too low damage or have too low defense when it comes to soloing champs or legendaries while for condi its just like go get trailblazers or cele and you good to solo almost everything. Its time for power to get some good stats in PvE imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 On 3/28/2024 at 3:27 AM, ZvolTx.3165 said: Vanguard: POWER PRECISION toughness vitality That is the Paladin set in PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeyeti.8347 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Being able to play an offensive healer , YES ! idc about some plague doctor stuff , the vitality there is a waste Power/healing/précsion/concentration and condi/healing/expertise/concentration plz , also could add a new set of runes like focused on a specific boon like firebrand runes does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 (edited) I would say yes and no. If minstrels get removed to fix the balance and concentration "hammered" cause permanent boons carries and a lot mostly outside pve I can imagine similar stats to be introduced. Edited April 28 by Aeolus.3615 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny.9834 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Witch: Majors: Condition Damage, Concentration Minor: Expertise, Vitality 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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