Heart progress is ridiculously slow

[Triptaminas.4789]

1 hour ago, AliamRationem.5172 said:

I sure wish I had known to do that.  I have a ton of Lowland Shore tokens, but I barely use them because there are plenty of events and activities available to complete the hearts within a reasonable time frame.  Then I go over to Janthir Syntri and the bar barely moves, there are hardly any events that contribute to completion and for the events that are available half of them are bugged and the rest are copy/paste trash.

I did not expected it to be patched out before fixing general token drops. Now it's just like spitting in open world lad face 

[Triptaminas.4789]

Going to watch more aoc gameplay, and prep for november, have fun farming the bugged tokens lads. 

[Gehenna.3625]

1 hour ago, AliamRationem.5172 said:

I sure wish I had known to do that.  I have a ton of Lowland Shore tokens, but I barely use them because there are plenty of events and activities available to complete the hearts within a reasonable time frame.  Then I go over to Janthir Syntri and the bar barely moves, there are hardly any events that contribute to completion and for the events that are available half of them are bugged and the rest are copy/paste trash.

There are a few events that reliably give renown tokes. In essence all of the meat and veg/fruit collection events that are out of range of a heart. They're easy and quite regularly. So you can farm those. There's one north west of the first heart that is out of range and there are two more across the water on the south west side of the map. In between those two there's an escort event* that ends between them where a big wolf spawns as a follow up quest. That one also gives a renown token. A little boring to do those over and over again but a lot quicker than doing the other events.

The heart in the north is easy as there are plenty of events happening pretty much all the time. Also there are burning logs there that you can step on to put the fire out, and that also gives heart progression.

 

* the first meat and veg/fruit collection event I was talking about is located right above where the escort starts.

[Hotride.2187]

I've started doing the heart daily repetitions for the respective achievements. I.e. I'm doing the 6 hearts daily.

When doing events, most hearts fill up reasonably quick. Waiting for the events to show up though... Oh dear. And then for a 2 min event you get the same progress as for a 5 min event. Some events take even longer than 5 min, depending on how many people show up (bad scaling?) and then getting 1/4 of the heart is even worse.

I like that variety I get from the events, to fill up the hearts. I don't like that its slow depending on the event, and that I have to wait between events. For some hearts the wait for events is actually obnoxious.

[Vavume.8065]

On 8/21/2024 at 12:41 AM, Rose.2593 said:

Was pretty fast for the first heart I tried, pretty much 2 events and it was done? That's not slow

So you did one heart and think your opinion is useful here? ok...

Edited September 2 by Vavume.8065

[Stone.7563]

Im also disappointed in how the heart items that purchase heart completion work. For instance I completed the hearts on one character. Then switched to one who already did them to spend the heart items to find out that doesn't progress the achievement to do them 14 times. So not only do you have to do them 14 times, but on 14 different days since repeats even on alternative characters will not count towards it. RIP heart items.

[Gehenna.3625]

I completed all hearts 15 times by now so all are maxed out and then this thought came to me...will it reset back to 1 next time I complete it? I have no idea, guess I'll find out tomorrow

[Cameirus.8407]

2 hours ago, Gehenna.3625 said:

I completed all hearts 15 times by now so all are maxed out and then this thought came to me...will it reset back to 1 next time I complete it? I have no idea, guess I'll find out tomorrow

no, there are repeatable achvs to do them 3 different days, and you get a pretty insignificant reward, so dont bother.

[Tuna Bandit.3786]

The speed is not even the worse.

Janthir Syntri heart at Old Hutment Site...

Cannot be completed duyring meta, all events are on hold.

Whatever happened to 'Arenanet respects your time" cause this sure feels the exact opposite.

When you design a heart that can only be completed with tokens or events only... then reconsider this time wasting design please.

[Randulf.7614]

I'm a bit confused by this thread. I#m completing the hearts in Sintri at a pretty rapid rate. I mean, they shouldn't be super fast as it would be pointless and the expac has only just come out.

There doesn't appear to be any over tuning from the first two hearts I've seen?

Edited September 5 by Randulf.7614
Shouldn't not should

[Gehenna.3625]

1 hour ago, Randulf.7614 said:

I'm a bit confused by this thread. I#m completing the hearts in Sintri at a pretty rapid rate. I mean, they should be super fast as it would be pointless and the expac has only just come out.

There doesn't appear to be any over tuning from the first two hearts I've seen?

The Syntri hearts can take "forever" to complete for a lot of people. At least two of them. The one in the north has events spawning regularly so that's not the issue but the west one and the south-east one do have issues. At least for some people. It really depends on when you get there.

The west one has some things like defusing relics and killing stuff, but those barely fill up the bar. And within the range of the heart I rarely get events spawning. So it's like pulling teeth really. Now I learned in the meantime that there are two food collection events to the east of the heart outside the range that you can do for renown tokens and they do spawn quite regularly. But it's odd to have to do that.

The heart in the south-east corner of the map also has the issue of there being times were you don't see any events spawning. There is an added issue there, that you can't actually see the events on the map until you're pretty much on top of them. But that heart has no alternatives to events.

Add to that, that when the WBs spawn, most events are disabled. So that means waiting another, what, 20 minutes or however long that fight lasts. None of the hearts in Kodan Lowlands have that issue. It's just 2 of them in Syntri. Some people are lucky when they get there and there's a lot of events going on, others are not so lucky and find themselves waiting for events to happen and that gets annoying. Nobody likes to just sit around and wait for 5-10 mins for events to fill up a heart.

[Randulf.7614]

13 minutes ago, Gehenna.3625 said:

The Syntri hearts can take "forever" to complete for a lot of people. At least two of them. The one in the north has events spawning regularly so that's not the issue but the west one and the south-east one do have issues. At least for some people. It really depends on when you get there.

The west one has some things like defusing relics and killing stuff, but those barely fill up the bar. And within the range of the heart I rarely get events spawning. So it's like pulling teeth really. Now I learned in the meantime that there are two food collection events to the east of the heart outside the range that you can do for renown tokens and they do spawn quite regularly. But it's odd to have to do that.

The heart in the south-east corner of the map also has the issue of there being times were you don't see any events spawning. There is an added issue there, that you can't actually see the events on the map until you're pretty much on top of them. But that heart has no alternatives to events.

Add to that, that when the WBs spawn, most events are disabled. So that means waiting another, what, 20 minutes or however long that fight lasts. None of the hearts in Kodan Lowlands have that issue. It's just 2 of them in Syntri. Some people are lucky when they get there and there's a lot of events going on, others are not so lucky and find themselves waiting for events to happen and that gets annoying. Nobody likes to just sit around and wait for 5-10 mins for events to fill up a heart.

Interesting. I can't comment on the north, but I'd filled the western one before I'd even reached the heart vendor. There were several rapid spawning events that just quickly filled it that were nearby. I found both this one and the entry heart faster to fill than the LS4 ones. I can't comment on the north heart yet

To be honest, I've always thought hearts are pointless if they are filled within minutes. Taking time to fill one, seems entirely appropriate. I would rather they slowed the hearts down further than keep them at the faster fill rates they are curently at

Maybe it would be better to reduce the event contribution and improve the contribution from heart activities to rebalance it. That sounds like what the issue is

[Luthan.5236]

Imo the southeast feels faster than the west - for me, recently. West has the other stuff to do. But that is - as mentioned - pretty slow (and boring). The south east at least has the foraging events. Regularly something is up. Though they are slow as well. At least somethin to do until a better event is up. They should progress a bit more on finish.

Seems like the out of heart range events are meant to give renown tokens instead (since they don't contribute directly). The garden event (with the poet of justice achievement) seems to progress a bit more on the south east one - since the mob kills also give a decent amount.

South west the curious remdy guy event seems to be the best. Good amount of progress from the event as well as from the mob kills during it. And a 2-event thing. It is not always up though. Those grub kill events (if in range of the heart) feel somewhat slow though.

Edited September 4 by Luthan.5236

[Cronospere.8143]

Janthir syntri east heart, havent completed it yet, because there is nothing but 4 events that progres the heart. The others start in the camp but finish on other side of the map. No mobs to kill unless the events are up. So that one is terrible. 

The west one at least had some mobs and object you can interact with. 

[Zoid.2568]

On 8/21/2024 at 1:41 AM, Rose.2593 said:

Was pretty fast for the first heart I tried, pretty much 2 events and it was done? That's not slow

Depends on the event, but usually 3-4 events per heart to complete.

[Neathra.1950]

On 8/31/2024 at 4:37 PM, Tula.6021 said:

The event with the dude and the flowers is too hard if one wants to do the achievements of him not dying or not falling below 90%. Do I need a half zerg organised for heal/prot dude and drag/pull flowers tasks for that?

You don't find it super fun getting instantly downed by like 25 stacks of poison? Ibogas are the worst and should have been left in PoF

[Kulvar.1239]

It's appalling that they didn't add token drop to Syntri event so far.

I will boycott Syntri until fixed. If nobody plays there, maybe they'll get the hint.

[Eekasqueak.7850]

I'm kinda shocked they haven't tweaked Syntri.

[Vinceman.4572]

1 minute ago, Eekasqueak.7850 said:

I'm kinda shocked they haven't tweaked Syntri.

Indeed. It's two weeks now and still no sign from Anet or an adjustment. The event uphill in the lower east still is bugged as boars barely give "animal meat" compared to the event north of the camp with those moas and pomegrenates. There are three similar events like this on the map and one is bugged. Cannot be that hard to fix it. Additionally there are almost no mobs you can kill to progress the heart or things to disable like for the heart in the southwest.
I don't know what they were thinking.
On top my opinion is that if you do things attached to a heart repeating those 8 times should be enough. On Lowland Shore there are fishing nets and boxes with varwans (or how they are called). Please Anet, if I repair or open 8 of them this should be enough for the day. The reality: The bar of the heart is barely 10-20%. 😞

[Zok.4956]

14 hours ago, Randulf.7614 said:

I'm a bit confused by this thread. I#m completing the hearts in Sintri at a pretty rapid rate.

I do the hearts regularly and it seems to me as if the events in the east of Sintri are now spawning much more often (when it's not meta time) than they did a few days ago. When the thread started, the hearts in Sintri took a lot longer. 

[PyaKura.4895]

I absolutely don't mean this in a condescending way, I know communication is not all fun and games, it's my job too and it's deceptively delicate work. But it's a bit disheartening to see that there has been so little communication around the expansion post-launch, whether it's to get new players to join the fun or to keep the existing playerbase updated. It's been (a bit more than) two weeks since launch, which should have been the perfect time to strike while the iron is hot as they say.

[Randulf.7614]

So I did the north one and I ticked it off before I got to the heart with 3 elemental events on the way. Went way faster than I expected

[Gehenna.3625]

19 hours ago, Randulf.7614 said:

Interesting. I can't comment on the north, but I'd filled the western one before I'd even reached the heart vendor. There were several rapid spawning events that just quickly filled it that were nearby. I found both this one and the entry heart faster to fill than the LS4 ones. I can't comment on the north heart yet

To be honest, I've always thought hearts are pointless if they are filled within minutes. Taking time to fill one, seems entirely appropriate. I would rather they slowed the hearts down further than keep them at the faster fill rates they are curently at

Maybe it would be better to reduce the event contribution and improve the contribution from heart activities to rebalance it. That sounds like what the issue is

Yeh, it seems that for some people events spawn rapidly and for others they have to wait 5+ minutes before a single event spawns. Last night I did the Syntri hearts again (just to see). There are 7 events that can spawn within the range of the south-east heart that contribute to that heart. It took me 25-30 minutes including waiting time to complete the heart and during that time 5 events total triggered and 2 of them triggered at the same time. So effectively in almost a half hour only 3 different events triggered out of the 7 because there were two events that triggerd twice during that time.

So it might be a bug that only happens half the time but that's what happened to me last night and I needed all 5 to get the heart done. So per event I got less than 1 renown token. And then I go to the north one and I do one event and the heart is already more than halfway filled. I just don't get it.

But also the fact that a lot of events in the west and south are not picked up by the map/compass is weird. I can see from the south-east heart that there are events going on elsewhere but the food collection quest that happens close to the camp (on the ridge east of it) is happening but I can't see it. There's something wrong with events there when you can see there's an event going on on the other side of the map but not the closer ones.

Edited September 5 by Gehenna.3625

[Randulf.7614]

18 minutes ago, Gehenna.3625 said:

Yeh, it seems that for some people events spawn rapidly and for others they have to wait 5+ minutes before a single event spawns. Last night I did the Syntri hearts again (just to see). There are 7 events that can spawn within the range of the south-east heart that contribute to that heart. It took me 25-30 minutes including waiting time to complete the heart and during that time 5 events total triggered and 2 of them triggered at the same time. So effectively in almost a half hour only 3 different events triggered out of the 7 because there were two events that triggerd twice during that time.

So it might be a bug that only happens half the time but that's what happened to me last night and I needed all 5 to get the heart done. So per event I got less than 1 renown token. And then I go to the north one and I do one event and the heart is already more than halfway filled. I just don't get it.

But also the fact that a lot of events in the west and south are not picked up by the map/compass is weird. I can see from the south-east heart that there are events going on elsewhere but the food collection quest that happens close to the camp (on the ridge east of it) is happening but I can't see it. There's something wrong with events there when you can see there's an event going on on the other side of the map but not the closer ones.

Must be some scaling or bugs somewhere. I noticed Levi died in 5 seconds earlier. Never seen anything in the expac drop that fast

In the north, the elemental events constantly pop, so unless there's a map bug I havent seen yet, that should be quick and easy to tick off

To be honest, everything seems too fast in Syntri. 

[Vavume.8065]

57 minutes ago, Randulf.7614 said:

To be honest, everything seems too fast in Syntri. 

You could not be more wrong.