Justi.6243 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 I would first like to say I love the new expansion! When the astral ward started calling us “Wayfinder” I didn’t care too much, if they prefer that, fine. However I’m feeling an uncomfortable dissociation, when my character is asked, if they prefer commander or wayfinder? And my character just says they prefer wayfinder, without our input, while I’m just sitting there hoping that this is the moment we get to choose to drop that meaningless title. It might be nitpicky or unreasonable, but I’d love having the option to choose. The wayfinder title means nothing to me, the commander title means ALOT. Again, love the new expansion, but I just felt sidelined after that 😞 23 5 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattycake.2743 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 I second this, I want to be called Commander, not Wayfinder. 8 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danikat.8537 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 I don't think they could actually let us choose because then they'd have to record 2 versions of all the dialogue where the player is mentioned, and voice acting is expensive and adds a lot to the game's file size. Personally I don't mind which title the NPCs use. If most of my characters were genuinely given a choice they'd want to be called by their first name (which is not always the first word in their name) or a nickname rather than a formal title. I realise that's impractical in a game like this, but it means anything they're called isn't quite right, and they're all equally 'wrong' so it doesn't matter much. I suppose it should really be the title that's relevant to the job they're doing at the time, so in this case are they in Janthir and involved in current events because they're a Wayfinder for the Astral Ward or because they're a (former) Commander of the Pact, or something else? I'm not entirely clear on that situation, so I don't know what the correct title would be. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justi.6243 Posted August 22 Author Share Posted August 22 (edited) I’m not too bothered what the npc’s call us, what’s rubbing me wrong is that our character themselves says they prefer wayfinder, without our input. AN could have changed the dialog to be something like “I go by commander” If they wanted to go with commander voice overs/text, or “I prefer commander, but I’m here mostly on behalf of the astral ward, so wayfinder might be more apropriate” if they wanted the story to pan in that direction. Edited August 22 by Justi.6243 3 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teknomancer.4895 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 The only truly accurate title is Gofer. Maybe Mighty Errand Runner if you want to be fancy. At this point, they should just start calling us "hey, you." 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willow.8209 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 12 minutes ago, Danikat.8537 said: I don't know what the correct title would be. I still think they told us a new correct title in the intro: Emissary. Why they didn't use that is beyond me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willow.8209 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 2 minutes ago, Teknomancer.4895 said: The only truly accurate title is Gofer. quite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiof.5710 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 2 minutes ago, willow.8209 said: I still think they told us a new correct title in the intro: Emissary. Why they didn't use that is beyond me. Benjamin Sisko has entered the chat. 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justi.6243 Posted August 22 Author Share Posted August 22 5 minutes ago, willow.8209 said: I still think they told us a new correct title in the intro: Emissary. Why they didn't use that is beyond me. This would also be fine, and not invalidate any personal preferances. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arc.8247 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 (edited) I have to say i agree. Wayfinder just doesn't feel right. We've been the commander since the end of personal story, all throughout all expansions until SoTO... and it doesn't sound right to not be called that anymore. Be as it may, just a title without any significance at this point but it feels right. Comfortable. Edited August 22 by Arc.8247 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenDrake.8316 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Arc.8247 said: Wayfinder just doesn't feel right. Always reminds me of "Pathfinder" from a certain trainwreck of a game (except the combat system, I love that) that's sadly a part of my beloved Mass Effect franchise... Edited August 22 by ZenDrake.8316 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 If it was possible, I would want my characters to be called by their actual names and nothing else, but that's not doable. Since it is not a possibility, I really do not care what NPCs call me -- as long as it isn't "poobah". 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teknomancer.4895 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 How about "Tool"? That's all we are to any of these people anyway... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adngel.9786 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 I'm missing something, when do that question happens? Because I remember at the begining of Janthir Wilds, before enter to the portal to the Moon Camp. Countess Anise ask my character if prefer Commander or Wayfinder, and my character said Commander, so Anise joked about the old habbits. Yesterday I played with a 2nd character, and the dialogue was similar. Are you refering to the same dialogue? Has it got an alternative version where the hero asks to be called "Wayfinder"? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzbugs.1236 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 ArenaNet gave up on giving us a personal story a decade ago. 1 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenDrake.8316 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 7 minutes ago, Adngel.9786 said: I'm missing something, when do that question happens? When you get introduced to the Kodan council (or whatever they are) in their large house. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quench.7091 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 They should just mix it up, depending on the person and culture. The lowland kodan should be calling us "outlander," since they don't know our accomplishments. The Astral Ward and demons should be calling us "Wayfinder." Most of Tyria should be calling us "Commander." The Inquest should be calling us "bookah." 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maienstern.2154 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 That's an interesting take. To me "commander" has felt wrong ever since the beginning of season 3, since that is the moment we leave that position. Everytime I get addressed as "commander" I feel a bit like an imposter, even though Almorra assured us, it was fine to keep the title. I am much more comfortable with "wayfinder" and had the opposite feeling when my wayfinder told Anise anything other than "commander" from her would feel wrong. Like, no, it's the other way around for me. I do agree though, hearing that question and the PCs answer to it feels really weird. It does give me brief moments of cognitive dissonance. And it's the only thing in this expansions so far that pull me out of the story. Heck, I got so immersed, I cried over that feral warclaw champion. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anninke.7469 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 2 hours ago, Quench.7091 said: They should just mix it up, depending on the person and culture. The lowland kodan should be calling us "outlander," since they don't know our accomplishments. The Astral Ward and demons should be calling us "Wayfinder." Most of Tyria should be calling us "Commander." The Inquest should be calling us "bookah." It is kinda mixed. The Ward and bearfolks use Wayfinder while the "old pals" call my toon Commander. Here and there someone throws a joke about it. So I'm pretty fine although I'm on the "Commander forever" team. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quake.9023 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 we should be able to choose from the very start of this jw what we want to identify as......i expected this as top priority for such a woke company. im emotionally unsettled. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SidewayS.3789 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 6 hours ago, ZenDrake.8316 said: Always reminds me of "Pathfinder" from a certain trainwreck of a game (except the combat system, I love that) that's sadly a part of my beloved Mass Effect franchise... Actyally Pathfinder, would have been a better title tbh. And I am on the same train too, aside of "my face is tired" and that meh story, the combat was 10/10 the tech/biotic combos were *cheff kiss*, that was the only thing who made me continue the game and finishing it, the combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Being called a name that I do not like is generally taken as an insult leading to a negative perception of those choosing to be antagonistic. It can be very anti-immersion to have my character respond positively to people who choose to insult him by calling him names such as "Wayfinder." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotride.2187 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 7 hours ago, Danikat.8537 said: I don't think they could actually let us choose because then they'd have to record 2 versions of all the dialogue where the player is mentioned, and voice acting is expensive and adds a lot to the game's file size. Not to be the AI person, but for a simple word replacement, surely it can be done well enough and automatically with some existing tool... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenith.7301 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 No, thanks. Commander sounds too militaristic. Wayfinder is more neutral for those who don't want to RP some military guy. A wayfinder title is more fitting for an adventurer. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noidea Incognito.9607 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 (edited) If they start changing title's; they could at least have given players a "Commander" title in remembrance. This new "wayfinder" seems more empathic/docile like.... the "wayfinder" is uncertain themselves and need to "find the way" in this hostile, dangerous world... Juuuuuust the type of new hero profile that wouldn't mind listening to other npc's long elaborate stories without skipping any detail *wink wink* Cause a "commander" would say: Ok, enough talk! Its time to take action! Move out! @Zenith.7301 Personally would pick the title "adventurer / hero" over "wayfinder" as an alternative for "commander"; "wayfinder" sounds like one of those title's some ethnic / indigent tribe would dub specific (not so)exceptional individuals. For instance: If you are a Charr that has its origins in the industrial streets of the Black citadel and you are suddenly given a "ethnic/indigent label"; Wouldn't "adventurer/hero" be a more neutral choice? Not that it matters what anyone would think; Anet has decided to call the character "Wayfinder". Edited August 23 by Noidea Incognito.9607 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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