Razor.6392 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Corona Burst: Reduced might gained in WvW to the same amount as granted in PvP. Reduced the damage of this skill by 20% in PvP and WvW.Holographic Shockwave: Reduced range from 600 to 300.what happen bros, I thought holo es balance jajaja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alatar.7364 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 This will not change a damn thing about Holo brokenness to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shao.7236 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Anet intends to keep the Holo auto attack dps it seems, that's like the only redeeming factor that's left which sets it apart from core or scrapper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nath Forge Tempete.1645 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 @Shao.7236 said:Anet intends to keep the Holo auto attack dps it seems, that's like the only redeeming factor that's left which sets it apart from core or scrapperTo be honest ... the issue I got from holo back in my days (cause i don't pvp since the last 2 seasons) is the amount of sustain it has (as long as you don't overheat ofc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 @Razor.6392 said:Corona Burst: Reduced might gained in WvW to the same amount as granted in PvP. Reduced the damage of this skill by 20% in PvP and WvW.Holographic Shockwave: Reduced range from 600 to 300.what happen bros, I thought holo es balance jajajaUr laughing at the still most broken spec, while their complaining on the forums about the few nerfs their actually laughing behind their screens that these are the only nerfs they got lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 @Psycoprophet.8107 said:@Razor.6392 said:Corona Burst: Reduced might gained in WvW to the same amount as granted in PvP. Reduced the damage of this skill by 20% in PvP and WvW.Holographic Shockwave: Reduced range from 600 to 300.what happen bros, I thought holo es balance jajajaUr laughing at the still most broken spec, while their complaining on the forums about the few nerfs their actually laughing behind their screens that these are the only nerfs they got lol true, meanwhile we nonholoplayers are stuck with them for several more months.Keep calm and nerf mesmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapasmurf.5623 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Holo shockwave that AoE cc while in god mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaith.8256 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 @Psycoprophet.8107 said:@Razor.6392 said:Corona Burst: Reduced might gained in WvW to the same amount as granted in PvP. Reduced the damage of this skill by 20% in PvP and WvW.Holographic Shockwave: Reduced range from 600 to 300.what happen bros, I thought holo es balance jajajaUr laughing at the still most broken spec, while their complaining on the forums about the few nerfs their actually laughing behind their screens that these are the only nerfs they got lol Yeah Holo will still be quite competitive.@Razor.6392 Poor form, I know you are just here for the gloat, but it's been a long time since people claimed that Holo was balanced. With nerfs to other specs it's climbed the ranks by dodging significant nerfbats for the last several patches. As I said before, Holo will still be a good spec. It might actually be more fun with a 300radius Forge #5, because it may actually take some timing and finesse to get big value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor.6392 Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 @Chaith.8256 said:@Psycoprophet.8107 said:@Razor.6392 said:Corona Burst: Reduced might gained in WvW to the same amount as granted in PvP. Reduced the damage of this skill by 20% in PvP and WvW.Holographic Shockwave: Reduced range from 600 to 300.what happen bros, I thought holo es balance jajajaUr laughing at the still most broken spec, while their complaining on the forums about the few nerfs their actually laughing behind their screens that these are the only nerfs they got lol Yeah Holo will still be quite competitive.@Razor.6392 Poor form, I know you are just here for the gloat, but it's been a long time since people claimed that Holo was balanced. With nerfs to other specs it's climbed the ranks by dodging significant nerfbats for the last several patches. As I said before, Holo will still be a good spec. It might actually be more fun with a 300radius Forge #5, because it may actually take some timing and finesse to get big value.jajajajajaja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovarica.4368 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 That is enough to change the outcome of matches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallic.2397 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Too bad Holo's don't use barrier, cause then the next patch will bring them down a little from god tier. Who else thinks warriors will be the next top side-noder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreams.3128 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 I mean, I still will play Holo no matter the nerfs. And I still have FB to climb with my duo since none of you folks bother to support your team with a proper support class.Yea, man, I'm so depressed with Holo I could cry lmao. Sheesh, this is pretty weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 @Stallic.2397 said:Too bad Holo's don't use barrier, cause then the next patch will bring them down a little from god tier. Who else thinks warriors will be the next top side-noder?It may be but Warriors are so strait forward and predictable that players learn counters to it pretty fast but being its warrior that would kinda put it where that archetype should be so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantheman.3589 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 @Chaith.8256 said:@Psycoprophet.8107 said:@Razor.6392 said:Corona Burst: Reduced might gained in WvW to the same amount as granted in PvP. Reduced the damage of this skill by 20% in PvP and WvW.Holographic Shockwave: Reduced range from 600 to 300.what happen bros, I thought holo es balance jajajaUr laughing at the still most broken spec, while their complaining on the forums about the few nerfs their actually laughing behind their screens that these are the only nerfs they got lol Yeah Holo will still be quite competitive.@Razor.6392 Poor form, I know you are just here for the gloat, but it's been a long time since people claimed that Holo was balanced. With nerfs to other specs it's climbed the ranks by dodging significant nerfbats for the last several patches. As I said before, Holo will still be a good spec. It might actually be more fun with a 300radius Forge #5, because it may actually take some timing and finesse to get big value.Holo is balanced in that it’s like A tier in every catagory. As long as your good at cc chaining holo can win almost every 1v1 I just wanna see it less op in team fights and give a few range nerfs cuz there’s no point in dragging every class to C tier with the intent on balance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 @Stallic.2397 said:Too bad Holo's don't use barrier, cause then the next patch will bring them down a little from god tier. they do. the stab trait gives them barrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FtoPScrub.5476 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 nerf h e a t t h e r a p y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernRedStar.3054 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 @Dantheman.3589 said:@Chaith.8256 said:@Psycoprophet.8107 said:@Razor.6392 said:Corona Burst: Reduced might gained in WvW to the same amount as granted in PvP. Reduced the damage of this skill by 20% in PvP and WvW.Holographic Shockwave: Reduced range from 600 to 300.what happen bros, I thought holo es balance jajajaUr laughing at the still most broken spec, while their complaining on the forums about the few nerfs their actually laughing behind their screens that these are the only nerfs they got lol Yeah Holo will still be quite competitive.@Razor.6392 Poor form, I know you are just here for the gloat, but it's been a long time since people claimed that Holo was balanced. With nerfs to other specs it's climbed the ranks by dodging significant nerfbats for the last several patches. As I said before, Holo will still be a good spec. It might actually be more fun with a 300radius Forge #5, because it may actually take some timing and finesse to get big value.Holo is balanced in that it’s like A tier in every catagory. As long as your good at cc chaining holo can win almost every 1v1 I just wanna see it less op in team fights and give a few range nerfs cuz there’s no point in dragging every class to C tier with the intent on balance1) That's not how you make a believable case. Player being able to do good at one thing = win every 1v1. Seems balanced, fo' sure. Holo is too forgiving with their numerous ways of setting up a burst, breaking engages, and sustain via heat therapy and water fields. Unsurprisingly, a lot of qualities mirage got flack for in their time.2) The point is not dragging everyone "to C tier". The point is making sure every class has strengths AND weaknesses - in layman's words: NOT having an A in every category, as you so nicely laid it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant.7206 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 @Stallic.2397 said:Too bad Holo's don't use barrier, cause then the next patch will bring them down a little from god tier. Who else thinks warriors will be the next top side-noder?You do know that the same trait that gives corona burst stability also gives it barrier, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico.6873 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 @Vagrant.7206 said:@Stallic.2397 said:Too bad Holo's don't use barrier, cause then the next patch will bring them down a little from god tier. Who else thinks warriors will be the next top side-noder?You do know that the same trait that gives corona burst stability also gives it barrier, right?That barrier is little which can be burned away easily while the amount of time the barrier lasts is shortbut if the warrior times it right he could insta destroy the holo yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant.7206 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 @Rico.6873 said:@Vagrant.7206 said:@Stallic.2397 said:Too bad Holo's don't use barrier, cause then the next patch will bring them down a little from god tier. Who else thinks warriors will be the next top side-noder?You do know that the same trait that gives corona burst stability also gives it barrier, right?That barrier is little which can be burned away easily while the amount of time the barrier lasts is shortbut if the warrior times it right he could insta destroy the holo yesExactly. You might burn the barrier on the first corona burst hit, but you can time the second one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrForz.1953 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 @Razor.6392 said:@Chaith.8256 said:@Psycoprophet.8107 said:@Razor.6392 said:Corona Burst: Reduced might gained in WvW to the same amount as granted in PvP. Reduced the damage of this skill by 20% in PvP and WvW.Holographic Shockwave: Reduced range from 600 to 300.what happen bros, I thought holo es balance jajajaUr laughing at the still most broken spec, while their complaining on the forums about the few nerfs their actually laughing behind their screens that these are the only nerfs they got lol Yeah Holo will still be quite competitive.@Razor.6392 Poor form, I know you are just here for the gloat, but it's been a long time since people claimed that Holo was balanced. With nerfs to other specs it's climbed the ranks by dodging significant nerfbats for the last several patches. As I said before, Holo will still be a good spec. It might actually be more fun with a 300radius Forge #5, because it may actually take some timing and finesse to get big value.jajajajajajaYou know the holos will still maul you right? :/ That's clearly not what made it to the top complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantheman.3589 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 @NorthernRedStar.3054 said:@Dantheman.3589 said:@Chaith.8256 said:@Psycoprophet.8107 said:@Razor.6392 said:Corona Burst: Reduced might gained in WvW to the same amount as granted in PvP. Reduced the damage of this skill by 20% in PvP and WvW.Holographic Shockwave: Reduced range from 600 to 300.what happen bros, I thought holo es balance jajajaUr laughing at the still most broken spec, while their complaining on the forums about the few nerfs their actually laughing behind their screens that these are the only nerfs they got lol Yeah Holo will still be quite competitive.@Razor.6392 Poor form, I know you are just here for the gloat, but it's been a long time since people claimed that Holo was balanced. With nerfs to other specs it's climbed the ranks by dodging significant nerfbats for the last several patches. As I said before, Holo will still be a good spec. It might actually be more fun with a 300radius Forge #5, because it may actually take some timing and finesse to get big value.Holo is balanced in that it’s like A tier in every catagory. As long as your good at cc chaining holo can win almost every 1v1 I just wanna see it less op in team fights and give a few range nerfs cuz there’s no point in dragging every class to C tier with the intent on balance1) That's not how you make a believable case. Player being able to do good at one thing = win every 1v1. Seems balanced, fo' sure. Holo is too forgiving with their numerous ways of setting up a burst, breaking engages, and sustain via heat therapy and water fields. Unsurprisingly, a lot of qualities mirage got flack for in their time.2) The point is not dragging everyone "to C tier". The point is making sure every class has strengths AND weaknesses - in layman's words: NOT having an A in every category, as you so nicely laid it out.You’ll have to drag something to ctier if u want it to have a weakness. But why do that it’s perfectly fine to have a class good and evenly good in each gatagory. I actually think Holos very fun as it is if you don’t want changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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