necromaniac.7629 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 ughhh mesmer overall is just such damn trash and uninteresting in pvp now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten.2617 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 @Lincolnbeard.1735 said:Want better burst? Thief, engie, ranger.Want better sustain damage? thief, engie, ranger.Want better mobility? Thief, engie, ranger.Want better sustain? Thief, engie, rangerWant better cc? thief, engie, ranger.Teach me plz =)What build are you talking about? =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 @JETWING.2759 said:@Lincolnbeard.1735 said:Want better burst? Thief, engie, ranger.Want better sustain damage? thief, engie, ranger.Want better mobility? Thief, engie, ranger.Want better sustain? Thief, engie, rangerWant better cc? thief, engie, ranger.Teach me plz =)What build are you talking about? =) its at a point where you can just use build randomizer and you prolly gonna have better build anyways :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincolnbeard.1735 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 @JETWING.2759 said:@Lincolnbeard.1735 said:Want better burst? Thief, engie, ranger.Want better sustain damage? thief, engie, ranger.Want better mobility? Thief, engie, ranger.Want better sustain? Thief, engie, rangerWant better cc? thief, engie, ranger.Teach me plz =)What build are you talking about? =) Holo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten.2617 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Holo...Not...Just cc him and Ok!Sad to see Holos running away from D/D Tempest in current days...Fighting at ranged with their Rifle while Mesmers (Core, Chrono or Mirage), Necros (Core, Reaper or Scourge) or Guardians (Core, DH or FB) comes close without fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magolith.9412 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 @NICENIKESHOE.7128 said:The point? We're all bloody masochists.This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincolnbeard.1735 Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 @JETWING.2759 said:Holo...Not...Just cc him and Ok!Sad to see Holos running away from D/D Tempest in current days...Fighting at ranged with their Rifle while Mesmers (Core, Chrono or Mirage), Necros (Core, Reaper or Scourge) or Guardians (Core, DH or FB) comes close without fear.With what cc?Power mesmer has not enough burst and sustain damage to take down an holo.Holo has more movement access and cc access than mesmer, as soon as holo is close is done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 @JETWING.2759 said:Holo...Not...Just cc him and Ok!Sad to see Holos running away from D/D Tempest in current days...Fighting at ranged with their Rifle while Mesmers (Core, Chrono or Mirage), Necros (Core, Reaper or Scourge) or Guardians (Core, DH or FB) comes close without fear.mesmer comes close without fear? the only reason mesmers come clones without fear is becouse we know for a fact we will die. but we have to anyways.whats the point of fearing death if we know it happens and we cant do jack to stop it, might as well kick back, relax and embrace what is to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xca.9721 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Why do you guys think every power/condi mesmer build should be viable in PvP? Balance that achieves that for every class is nearly impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoci.2481 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 You misspelled "any". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincolnbeard.1735 Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 Oh tons of posts removed, just as mesmer was removed from game! B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 @Lincolnbeard.1735 said:Oh tons of posts removed, just as mesmer was removed from game! B) So it wasn't just me. What the frick happened here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincolnbeard.1735 Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 @Tayga.3192 said:@Lincolnbeard.1735 said:Oh tons of posts removed, just as mesmer was removed from game! B) So it wasn't just me. What the frick happened here?Dunno. Didn't even saw like 9 posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Mods visited the mesmer forum from the first time in months :Dif this place was constantly visited I would be chainbanned for weeks xd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Tempest.7584 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 It was basically a string started by the Rev main above. A few of us responded and it all got removed, probably for quoting the offending post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moradorin.6217 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 @Leonidrex.5649 said:Mods visited the mesmer forum from the first time in months :Dif this place was constantly visited I would be chainbanned for weeks xdyep, I can attest to that possibility! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrownOfSorrow.6137 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Laughs in PvE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viquing.8254 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 I have been testing power mirage today in ranked, some things bother me : Clones direct damage ambush on sword and axe does 50 damage ?Rupt from clones ambush didn't trigger Vicious expression or there is a hidden icd ?Or I was drunk when I check damage logs ?If it's the case for both, I don't see the interest to take IH over EM. Or even mirage. Mean if it's only for the rupt with a 1 sec animation on clones and for sword mobility, seems pretty bad in direct damage.Edit : Clones direct damage is effectively near 0.Rupt from clones seems to trigger vicious expression after more testing.Misha use EM last At. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadox.7834 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 @viquing.8254 said:I have been testing power mirage today in ranked, some things bother me : Clones direct damage ambush on sword and axe does 50 damage ?Rupt from clones ambush didn't trigger Vicious expression or there is a hidden icd ?Or I was drunk when I check damage logs ?If it's the case for both, I don't see the interest to take IH over EM. Or even mirage. Mean if it's only for the rupt with a 1 sec animation on clones and for sword mobility, seems pretty bad in direct damage.Edit : Clones direct damage is effectively near 0.Rupt from clones seems to trigger vicious expression after more testing.Misha use EM last At.VE works with IH clone ambush but the leaps are unreliable and often dont connect. In theory it is good but yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodeni.6041 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Absolutely agree that power mesmer is in a bad spot right now. Hopefully they will address that with future balance changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArlAlt.1630 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 @Sodeni.6041 said:Absolutely agree that power mesmer is in a bad spot right now. Hopefully they will address that with future balance changes.Are we playing the same game? Never gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylden Ar.3724 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 @otto.5684 said:@Psycoprophet.8107 said:Oh I donno 14+k burst from stealth and crazy high evasiveness, seems pretty worthy of play to meCore highly evasive? I have not seen Mesmer power being successfully played in sPvP game since the update.Because you really can't. Considering ONCE AGAIN changing my WvW Ascended armor from Viper to either Carrion or Trailblazers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen.1483 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 If you're talking about pvp or wvw it is not just power mesmer it is any mesmer that is trash.In raids however nothing beats power chrono damage in benchmarks. I am sure they will nerf pve power chrono too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daishi.6027 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 What? All medium armors being objectively better than power mes? It’s almost like I’ve been saying that since release. But the bads in pvp cried their way to victory.Karl has always been biased against the class.Top players were calling it OP even though mes mains played thief in major tournies pre hot.Bunch of other crazy double standards over the years I’m to freaking tired of re-hashing to cite here.Now a thief got hired to do balance so it’s even more worthless, and even Condi thief is safer than condi mirage.So now I’m paying subs for FFXIV at the behest of my irl friends amidst the lock down, and haven’t completed masteries in Icebrood, cuz A-net doesn’t deserve my money, time, or effort.Prior to the damage cuts the only nerfs that were justified for power was Evasive mirror and mirage cloak duration. At the very least jaunts and vigor should have been restored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viquing.8254 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Yeah just wait to mesmers not being represented in At at all, it's just started recently with no mesmers in final and semi, maybe when the class proportion will be the lowest in the game like it was in vanilla with engi, we will get fun gameplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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