Quertha.7154 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 After big balance patch which class do you guys think is best for 1v1 situations right now? I digged internet, but couldn't find new discussion after latest patch. What you all think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantheman.3589 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Would probably have to talk about overall vs. ranked vs. top tier. Because ofc some 1v1 specs have counters and MU and some counters in the case of ranger will probably be only seen in ranked. So overall - prot holo becuz counters are rarely seen in any mode, while top tier where mostly power MUs exist- core ranger while ranked there are lots and it’s hard to pick, but for ranked I’m gonna have to go with ranger(only if you are flexible with traitlines) maybe a little prot holo and on some maps I’d throw in symbol guardian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koen.1327 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 holo is the bestbut i mean as sidenoder, so ability to hold as well as 1v1, 1vxbut tbh there is multiple classes that would stale any 1v1 - nec, ranger, holo are just so tanky they cant really be killed 1v1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantheman.3589 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 @Koen.1327 said:holo is the bestbut i mean as sidenoder, so ability to hold as well as 1v1, 1vxbut tbh there is multiple classes that would stale any 1v1 - nec, ranger, holo are just so tanky they cant really be killed 1v1Yeah but rn node is won by who has more knockback, so ranger will always win node with more knockback. If you 1vx you’ll probably have to kite anyways, but yeah I can see holo holding 1vx longer while ranger has access to other type of things like fake stealth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Holo or ranger as far as downing their opponent in the fight.There are some bunker builds that can almost stall any one player till a teamate shows to +1 or 3v1 it making it seem like a godly in 1v1 lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quertha.7154 Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 What do you think about warriors and elemantalists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalisto.5780 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 @Quertha.7154 said:What do you think about warriors and elemantalists?you can play either water weaver or lightning rodwater weaver can 1v2 long enough to make your team win the other 2 nodesbut you have no dmg and may not work on gold 3 + matchesLightning Rod I think is good against all power builds and some condi ones, the only ones i kinda struggle against are the bursty one, burn guardians ans condi rangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantheman.3589 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 @Quertha.7154 said:What do you think about warriors and elemantalists?There’s a lightning rod weaver build similar to metabattles except they play with avatar amulet and side node with it. It’s actually pretty decent at side noding, but I’ve seen 1v1s with that hundreds of time by now and the players using it could win any of them against good side noders, until they tried 100s of times. When you get good at it and learn combos, it seems to be a good side node counter, but can melt at any aoe or condition pressure.Warrior is another ok one, ppl play strength for ok damage in ranked and knights for Ats. But it loses to rangers etc. in ranked and ats. It another build ppl consider ok but workable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 prot holo would wreck it.some contenders could be some sort of bunker revs, bunker rangers, skilled warrior or ele, nothing other then that comes to mindI think necro could work technically but they would be easy to push off point to decap, and more fragile to getting 1v2/1v3 then holo or ranger for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar.3568 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Prot holo, core ranger, some weird condi ranger builds can surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorem.9157 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Let's be real and admit that the best 1v1 class in pvp is the pet tiger.Shits strong son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar.3568 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 @Sorem.9157 said:Let's be real and admit that the best 1v1 class in pvp is the pet tiger.kitten strong sonNo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimjack.8130 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 1v1 class not on a node, ele is def up there, but in terms of sidenoding nothing comes close to holo/ranger rn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugchriss.2046 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 @Grimjack.8130 said:1v1 class not on a node, ele is def up there, but in terms of sidenoding nothing comes close to holo/ranger rnI m pretty sure renegade is somewhere between close enough and better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EremiteAngel.9765 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 What about Burn Firebrand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I actually find that there is a rock/paper/scissors going on here:Prot Holo > Core Ranger > Core Necromancer > Prot HoloBut there are weird counters for those 3 aforementioned classes that can gut them off a node or even stomp them off node in 1v1s fairly easily.Prot Holo has less counter situations than Core Ranger or Core Necro, which is why it is the better side node in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten.2617 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Best:1º: Burn Guardian.2º: Condi Mirage.3º: Power Soulbeast.Worst:9°: Engineer (Core and Holo).8°: Necro.7°: Revenant (Core and Renegade). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazsi.2734 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Thief. While you cannot kill anything with it, you can run away fast. Like really really fast. Also you can watch teamfights from afar. Or you can camp stealth if you like to watch them from up close. Clearly in need of a nerf, as any thief wanting to be useless just has too many options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren.1064 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 @Bazsi.2734 said:Thief. While you cannot kill anything with it, you can run away fast. Like really really fast. Also you can watch teamfights from afar. Or you can camp stealth if you like to watch them from up close. Clearly in need of a nerf, as any thief wanting to be useless just has too many options.I was gonna ask if you were on crack until drunk me understood that was sarcasm lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhandiBot.6257 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 @JETWING.2759 said:Best:1º: Burn Guardian.2º: Condi Mirage.3º: Power Soulbeast.Worst:9°: Engineer (Core and Holo).8°: Necro.7°: Revenant (Core and Renegade).What? Prot holo is like top 3 sidenoder 1v1 build rn. Rev and necros aren't suppose to 1v1. Core knights ranger is superior than soulbeast atm and condi mirage is like nonexistent in plat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:I actually find that there is a rock/paper/scissors going on here:Prot Holo > Core Ranger > Core Necromancer > Prot HoloBut there are weird counters for those 3 aforementioned classes that can gut them off a node or even stomp them off node in 1v1s fairly easily.Prot Holo has less counter situations than Core Ranger or Core Necro, which is why it is the better side node in the end.Same goes for roamers, am I seeing a pattern here?Daredevil > Mirage > pHerald > Daredevil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliamRationem.5172 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 @Bazsi.2734 said:Thief. While you cannot kill anything with it, you can run away fast. Like really really fast. Also you can watch teamfights from afar. Or you can camp stealth if you like to watch them from up close. Clearly in need of a nerf, as any thief wanting to be useless just has too many options.I managed to kill a deadeye last night on my sword weaver. I expected music to start playing, confetti to drop, and a marching band, honestly. It was quite an achievement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tharan.9085 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 @Dantheman.3589 said:@Koen.1327 said:holo is the bestbut i mean as sidenoder, so ability to hold as well as 1v1, 1vxbut tbh there is multiple classes that would stale any 1v1 - nec, ranger, holo are just so tanky they cant really be killed 1v1Yeah but rn node is won by who has more knockback, so ranger will always win node with more knockback. If you 1vx you’ll probably have to kite anyways, but yeah I can see holo holding 1vx longer while ranger has access to other type of things like fake stealthDH has more knockback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psybehr.2518 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 @Sorem.9157 said:Let's be real and admit that the best 1v1 class in pvp is the pet tiger.kitten strong sonMy tiger crit a guy for 6.5k threw his block today. Idk how and I felt bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernRedStar.3054 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 If you mean 'how easy is it to 1v1 with this class w/o dying', then ele and holo take the cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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