Noah Salazar.5430 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Usualy you can have -% condi duration, but thers stats you no need like condi dmg, or toughness with it when you run power buildInsted i propose this one : [superior Rune of Menzies]25 Power-5% condi duration50 Power-10% condi duration100 Power+10% Health, 6s dark aura after heal (20s cd)Runes you culd get from strikes using crystals, also in wvw Symbol: https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Shadow_Warrior.jpgMenzies : https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Menzies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylden Ar.3724 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 This was not what I expected when I clicked the thread. I was expecting something about a rune that gave a bonus when you complained about restaurants being killed by them millennial Asura who don't know how a rotary dial waypoint works... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenesisII.1540 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Nope, sorry, I protest in the name of Mirage.Other classes shouldn't get additional bonuses for dodging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Salazar.5430 Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 Nope, sorry, I protest in the name of Mirage.Other classes shouldn't get additional bonuses for dodging.Good one XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDchiaScrub.3241 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 @Kylden Ar.3724 said:This was not what I expected when I clicked the thread. I was expecting something about a rune that gave a bonus when you complained about restaurants being killed by them millennial Asura who don't know how a rotary dial waypoint works... Yeah. Opportunity wasted.D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virdo.1540 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 This rune seems a bit too strong for pvp, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Salazar.5430 Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 This rune seems a bit too strong for pvp, in my opinion.This rune will be removed in pvp only for wvw/pve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeyspit.3965 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 @XenesisII.1540 said:Nope, sorry, I protest in the name of Mirage.Other classes shouldn't get additional bonuses for dodging.Think the Dolyak caravan already left on that one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenesisII.1540 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 @Turkeyspit.3965 said:@XenesisII.1540 said:Nope, sorry, I protest in the name of Mirage.Other classes shouldn't get additional bonuses for dodging.Think the Dolyak caravan already left on that one....Oh I'm still waiting on warrior ranger thief rev ele all to get nerfs to their dodges and the extra kitten they get for them, which obviously won't happen. But they certainly shouldn't implement any more bonuses for dodging while they have mirage hard nerfed for that very reason. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virdo.1540 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 @Noah Salazar.5430 said:This rune seems a bit too strong for pvp, in my opinion.This rune will be removed in pvp only for wvw/pvefor wvw op too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Salazar.5430 Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 for wvw op too@Virdo.1540idk, is it?if you burn someone for 8s it will be 7s instedif you dodge 7s will turn to 6s10% hp add you some defence to survive that 1s longer of condi bomb1s superspeed allow you to gapcloser after you got chilled, but it will take only 1s only op think i can see if you got 100% boon duration, and endurence weapon swap, but your dmg will be crapalso roots exist and boon coruption same as boon stealI can say that runes are only 50% good You take them to have life bit eazier vs condi, and suffer less on power build, as now you got power stats insted of condi dmg, but in same time you dont recrive any ferocity/precision, +5%dmg or offensive boons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepwalker.1398 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 @"Noah Salazar.5430" said:Usualy you can have -% condi duration, but thers stats you no need like condi dmg, or touchness with it when you run power buildWhich rune give "touchness"?I want to touch some shiny asura and human females in wvw too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Salazar.5430 Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 Which rune give " toughness"?@"Sleepwalker.1398"https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Superior_Rune_of_ResistanceYour runes can touch thay hearts insted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAlcedo.3281 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 What class is supposed to use it?I cant think of something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supreme.3602 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Imagine using the Boomer rune with Stamina sigil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juno.1840 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 It looks too powerful. Someone jokingly mentioned Mirage nerf, but they were 100% correct. Dodge is already too powerful in my opinion -- it negates all hits and is not based upon any build stats, so the most glassy builds get equal effect with tanky builds. It is a skill based mechanic however, and this game is generally lacking in that area.TLDR: the 100% evade during the dodge is reward enough. Change the other bonuses to trigger off a different source like a total condi threshold or when receiving a movement impairing effect, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrHome.1920 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 @"Noah Salazar.5430" said:This way you can "dodge" condition for 1s or move faster while chilledMovement impairing conditions have already seen a hardnerf in the past when anet removed the effect on leaping distances. That was more than enough and f***ed up the whole reaper spec that was designed around that mechanic and is still not fixed adequately.Besides that: this rune makes daredevels immune to conditions (damage AND cc !!!), which is completely unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Salazar.5430 Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 TLDR: the 100% evade during the dodge is reward enough. Change the other bonuses to trigger off a different source like a total condi threshold or when receiving a movement impairing effect, etc.Besides that: this rune makes daredevels immune to conditions (damage AND cc !!!), which is completely unacceptable.Ah yeh i forget that you have skills that refresh endurence like engineer Elixir R1s Resistence + 1s Superspeed -> gain 3s Resitence and 3s Superspeed after using a heal (25s cd)I think thats more resonableWhat you think?@KrHome.1920@juno.1840@Virdo.1540 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShark.9548 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 @XenesisII.1540 said:@Turkeyspit.3965 said:@XenesisII.1540 said:Nope, sorry, I protest in the name of Mirage.Other classes shouldn't get additional bonuses for dodging.Think the Dolyak caravan already left on that one....Oh I'm still waiting on warrior ranger thief rev ele all to get nerfs to their dodges and the extra kitten they get for them, which obviously won't happen. But they certainly shouldn't implement any more bonuses for dodging while they have mirage hard nerfed for that very reason. :)Because obviously you can compare their boni to the effect mirages dodge had lel. On topic, that rune is way too overpowered. Id run that on a roaming warrior and every other class who has low cd heals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrHome.1920 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 @Noah Salazar.5430 said:TLDR: the 100% evade during the dodge is reward enough. Change the other bonuses to trigger off a different source like a total condi threshold or when receiving a movement impairing effect, etc.Besides that: this rune makes daredevels immune to conditions (damage AND cc !!!), which is completely unacceptable.Ah yeh i forget that you have skills that refresh endurence like engineer Elixir R1s Resistence + 1s Superspeed -> gain 3s Resitence and 3s Superspeed after using a heal (20s cd)I think thats more resonableWhat you think?@KrHome.1920@juno.1840@Virdo.1540Then this is the ultimate escape tool and potentially better than speed rune, which many already see as broken. =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspirine.6852 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 I bet the boomers of this forum are a bit dissapointed in this topic :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Salazar.5430 Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 On topic, that rune is way too overpowered. Id run that on a roaming warrior and every other class who has low cd heals.@"RedShark.9548"Incrested cd to 25s is it ok?similar situationy you got using https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Superior_Rune_of_Resistance on low cd elit skillsThen this is the ultimate escape tool and potentially better than speed rune, which many already see as broken@"KrHome.1920"But you have it only temporary for 3s with cd of 25s You got other runes that can provid superspeed much more often like https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Superior_Rune_of_the_ZephyriteI bet the boomers of this forum are a bit dissapointed in this topic@aspirine.6852I acept any feedback or opinionif that superior run will be implemented one day, Anet will no need change it 5 times like me here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidJuly.1839 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 @"Noah Salazar.5430" said:Usualy you can have -% condi duration, but thers stats you no need like condi dmg, or toughness with it when you run power buildInsted i propose this one : [superior Rune of Boomer]25 Power-5% condi duration50 Power-10% condi duration100 Power+10% Health, gain 3s Resistence and 3s Superspeed after using a heal (25s cd)This way you can "dodge" condition for 1s or move faster while chilledRunes you culd get from strikes using crystals, also in wvw If you like that idea press "Thumbs up"If your mirage you can also leave comment below :D Superior Rune of Condi Immunity more like it. I mean if I slot that roll with lemongrass soup, grab a trait or two I can just ignore all condi except Burn. Hmmmm now why does that sounds like something toxic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowCatz.8437 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 3 sec resistance is too much in combo with a duration that chip away already 15% of duration. How would any condition build be worth to run with this kind of anti-condition Rune? Then it would need an increase in damage from condition damage to compensate for less time to do any damage at all. It would have the reverse effect then OP believe. Instead it would be needed to burst down power builds with condition damage (no expertise at all).Don't forget that chill, blind etc also is condition which means even less defensive condition up time for condition builds. And power would still have their duration on boons without any change....talk about unbalanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Salazar.5430 Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 @"ShadowCatz.8437"3 sec resistance is too much in combo with a duration that chip away already 15% of durationyep true, after some tests 3s bit overperform on offensive runei think 2s is resonable with 25s cd and offensive statsreduced superspeed to 2s alsoWhat you think?Don't forget that chill, blind etc also is condition which means even less defensive condition up time for condition builds. And power would still have their duration on boons without any change....talk about unbalanced.True, but keep in mind thers rune who give you -25% with 4s with also 20s cd https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Superior_Rune_of_ResistanceAlso you have acces to that weapon sign https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Superior_Sigil_of_AbsorptionBut i agree, here you got offensive stats so Resistance can be x2 times lower compare to itSuperior Rune of Condi Immunity more like it. I mean if I slot that roll with lemongrass soup, grab a trait or two I can just ignore all condi except Burn. Hmmmm now why does that sounds like something toxic?@MidJuly.1839Nerfed it a bitis it more aceptable now in your opinon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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