Long range increasing damage makes no sense

[Choppy.4183]

...and then there's the mysterious Quaggan Tonic.

[Andy.5981]

@DaVid Darksoul.4985 said:Simply put the more the longer a projectile travels the more kinetic energy it loses. 1500 range should not be doing more damage then shorter ranges. Also the lighter armored classes should be more mobile then heavier armored, at times it seems that GW2 devs live in Bizarro World.

Ok lets play realism.

RandomNecromancer - Rise my minions.

Dead thing on floor - oozes and doesn't move

RandomNecromancer - I said Rise my minions...

Dead thing on floor - oozes and doesn't move whilst flies buzz all around it.

Realism, in a MMORPG, well it really doesn't have a place does it?

[Gotejjeken.1267]

I like how a necro complaint thread about rangers turned into a physics discussion...

[Aeolus.3615]

https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Bow

About realist..... small bags full of gigantic weapons and other stuff ._. lets just carry what a human could carry... poor asurans, oh wait there wouldnt exist asuras.

[Some Call Me Tim.2319]

@DaVid Darksoul.4985 said:Simply put the more the longer a projectile travels the more kinetic energy it loses. 1500 range should not be doing more damage then shorter ranges. Also the lighter armored classes should be more mobile then heavier armored, at times it seems that GW2 devs live in Bizarro World.

@DaVid Darksoul.4985 said:Simply put the more the longer a projectile travels the more kinetic energy it loses. 1500 range should not be doing more damage then shorter ranges. Also the lighter armored classes should be more mobile then heavier armored, at times it seems that GW2 devs live in Bizarro World.

Don’t run. Turn and fight... or die trying to escape me!

[Kovu.7560]

@Gotejjeken.1267 said:I like how a necro complaint thread about rangers turned into a physics discussion...

That's pretty normal for when someone posts a thread arguing realism for game balance.

~ Kovu

[Substance E.4852]

@DaVid Darksoul.4985 said:Simply put the more the longer a projectile travels the more kinetic energy it loses. 1500 range should not be doing more damage then shorter ranges. Also the lighter armored classes should be more mobile then heavier armored, at times it seems that GW2 devs live in Bizarro World.

You're also not able to akimbo machine gun flint lock pistols or swing 200lbs of steel like a maple baseball bat

I'm pretty sure you can't somersault in full plate mail and then get back up on your own while we're on the subject

[Some Call Me Tim.2319]

@DaVid Darksoul.4985 said:Simply put the more the longer a projectile travels the more kinetic energy it loses. 1500 range should not be doing more damage then shorter ranges. Also the lighter armored classes should be more mobile then heavier armored, at times it seems that GW2 devs live in Bizarro World.

Weapons creating condition damage and spell casting aren’t consistent with real life either... IT’S A GAME!

[MasterDeere.3417]

@Arheundel.6451 said:

@"DaVid Darksoul.4985" said:Simply put the more the longer a projectile travels the more kinetic energy it loses. 1500 range should not be doing more damage then shorter ranges. Also the lighter armored classes should be more mobile then heavier armored, at times it seems that GW2 devs live in Bizarro World.

You may want to check your "sources" because power and acceleration are directly propotional : an object's kinetic energy increases as the square of its speed hence

you're 100% wrong

Since when an arrow can accelerate when in flight? :-Þ

[Dawdler.8521]

@MasterDeere.3417 said:

@Arheundel.6451 said:

@"DaVid Darksoul.4985" said:Simply put the more the longer a projectile travels the more kinetic energy it loses. 1500 range should not be doing more damage then shorter ranges. Also the lighter armored classes should be more mobile then heavier armored, at times it seems that GW2 devs live in Bizarro World.

You may want to check your "sources" because power and acceleration are directly propotional : an object's kinetic energy increases as the square of its speed hence

you're 100% wrong

Since when an arrow can accelerate when in flight? :-ÞEver tried shooting straight up and just having it... stay there?

[MasterDeere.3417]

@Dawdler.8521 said:

@MasterDeere.3417 said:

@Arheundel.6451 said:

@"DaVid Darksoul.4985" said:Simply put the more the longer a projectile travels the more kinetic energy it loses. 1500 range should not be doing more damage then shorter ranges. Also the lighter armored classes should be more mobile then heavier armored, at times it seems that GW2 devs live in Bizarro World.

You may want to check your "sources" because power and acceleration are directly propotional : an object's kinetic energy increases as the square of its speed hence

you're 100% wrong

Since when an arrow can accelerate when in flight? :-ÞEver tried shooting straight up and just having it... stay there?

You got me! Good one :-)

[LetoII.3782]

@Dawdler.8521 said:

@MasterDeere.3417 said:

@Arheundel.6451 said:

@"DaVid Darksoul.4985" said:Simply put the more the longer a projectile travels the more kinetic energy it loses. 1500 range should not be doing more damage then shorter ranges. Also the lighter armored classes should be more mobile then heavier armored, at times it seems that GW2 devs live in Bizarro World.

You may want to check your "sources" because power and acceleration are directly propotional : an object's kinetic energy increases as the square of its speed hence

you're 100% wrong

Since when an arrow can accelerate when in flight? :-ÞEver tried shooting straight up and just having it... stay there?

Yes, in fact.

I do believe it's still lodged in that limb behind my parent's house

[WindBlade.8749]

@SinisterSlay.6973 said:Can you imagine friendly fire being a thing? That would decimate almost everything about how the game is played now. No more zergs, no more stacks. Raids and strikes would be utterly ruined. I think it would devolve into everyone using range weapons and being forced to stand in a line and shoot to avoid hitting each other.

Elementalist casts meteor showertotal party wipeouteveryone rage quits and screams about how stupid of a skill that is to even exist in the game

imagine openworld meta event....

[Justine.6351]

People seem confused by the standard mmo gameplay since like forever. Before some of you were born.

Ranged = damage dealer but glassMidline = support / hybridsMelee = tank or damage stealther

It makes no sense for bruisers to deal more damage than ranged because then we would all just facetank eachother. Oh wait...

[Fueki.4753]

@Justine.6351 said:People seem confused by the standard mmo gameplay since like forever. Before some of you were born.Ranged = damage dealer but glassMidline = support / hybridsMelee = tank or damage stealther

GW2 simply doesn't adhere to standard MMORPG conventions.

[DaVid Darksoul.4985]

Happy to create a discussion to engage people, thank you for the participation. Hope none are offended by this comment.

[Justine.6351]

@Fueki.4753 said:

@"Justine.6351" said:People seem confused by the standard mmo gameplay since like forever. Before some of you were born.Ranged = damage dealer but glassMidline = support / hybridsMelee = tank or damage stealther

GW2 simply doesn't adhere to standard MMORPG conventions.

And that's where the game's balance went to trash over time.Can't really think of a better example than ranger. With druid it combined the ability to make a long ranged damage dealer with a sustain bot and with soul beast it combined a long ranged damage dealer with a bruiser. Actually ele went the same route with tempest and weaver.

Yes all classes came into the game this way but it has only gotten worse with elite specs driving those class roles further into those side paths without removing some of those base aspects as a "compensation". For example disable ranger's long bow when using druid and/or soul beast.

[Some Call Me Tim.2319]

@"Justine.6351" said:.....". For example disable ranger's long bow when using druid and/or soul beast.

lol...it’s a RANGER... Ok if you want to do that then give it even more powerful melee... oh wait, there’s other class that do melee! ?

[Kodama.6453]

@Some Call Me Tim.2319 said:

@"Justine.6351" said:.....". For example disable ranger's long bow when using druid and/or soul beast.

lol...it’s a RANGER... Ok if you want to do that then give it even more powerful melee... oh wait, there’s other class that do melee! ?

Well, if you are slotting in druid, then it's no ranger anymore, but a druid. :P

[Justine.6351]

@Kodama.6453 said:

@Some Call Me Tim.2319 said:

@"Justine.6351" said:.....". For example disable ranger's long bow when using druid and/or soul beast.

lol...it’s a RANGER... Ok if you want to do that then give it even more powerful melee... oh wait, there’s other class that do melee! ?

Well, if you are slotting in druid, then it's no ranger anymore, but a druid. :P

Yeah that was kind of my point. A tradeoff. I would actually coin it as a role conversion. It kind of ties in with my belief that when they started introducing elite specs they should have made one of the core trait lines an elite spec as well. For ranger I would have suggested beast mastery and pets but it could have been Marksmanship with longbow instead. But yeah we are long past that point.

[Justine.6351]

@Some Call Me Tim.2319 said:

@"Justine.6351" said:.....". For example disable ranger's long bow when using druid and/or soul beast.

lol...it’s a RANGER... Ok if you want to do that then give it even more powerful melee... oh wait, there’s other class that do melee! ?

They literally gave them a melee weapon that afaik nobody uses... but clever of you. Sorry I am all out of gold stars though.