kharmin.7683 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Gems as drops? I have to ask, what's in it for Anet? Why would they even consider doing this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anduriell.6280 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 On 5/12/2021 at 11:36 PM, DaVid Darksoul.4985 said: It would be awesome if anet would include a gem drop along the same frequency as ascended drops. Maybe a hundred gem chest? If you want anet to give you free gems you could try to join the partner program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blude.6812 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 No for the suggestion. It is obvious that the op didn't think (this one through) at all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danikat.8537 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 I think it could be a good idea, it's just that we've basically already got it because we can convert gold into gems. That makes getting gems as a drop seem redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerkram.5129 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 They gotta make money somehow. Also you can get free gems from some of the achievement chests. I would say stick with gold > gems exchange. If you get a big drop then sell it and covert to gems. Boom gem drop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindBlade.8749 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 No. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardenwolfe.8590 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Overall, no, but we do get gems when we reach certain achievement plateaus. There's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurrilino.2706 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 On 5/12/2021 at 4:48 PM, kharmin.7683 said: Are we trying to make a free to play game more free-er? Some threads are asking for more ways to give Anet money (subscription) whereas this one seems to want Anet to pay us to play? With the recent quality of the game, this is a reasonable request. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulGuardian.6203 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 With so many replies, I'm sure someone already said this, but here it goes. Gems are ANet's main revenue other than xpacs, and besides, they're ready tradeable using gold. You are asking a dev company to give up their main source of income, just because you might be too stingy to buy some gems? To say this in the nicest way possible, do you know how ridiculous that sounds? Just farm gold and trade in/exchange them for gems. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, Kurrilino.2706 said: With the recent quality of the game, this is a reasonable request. Not a very practical (or profitable) business model. Sure, let's ask Anet to pay us to play their game and then cry when the company goes out of business. 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kurrilino.2706 said: With the recent quality of the game, this is a reasonable request. I'm not even going to discuss the validity of your "recent quality of the game" opinion, instead lets just consider it as an objective truth for the sake of you having an argument at all: Lower quality of the releases might hint at a studio/game struggling, which is most probably directly connected to the lower profit the game makes. According to you, the answer to those -possibly- lower profits is... giving away free gems, which is pretty much one of main (or rather THE main) sources of income. So going from here, explain how exactly this is "a reasonable request"? Edited May 21, 2021 by Sobx.1758 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 On 5/12/2021 at 11:46 PM, DaVid Darksoul.4985 said: Yes but not as drops which I feel would be a nice gesture by Anet If they were to send $50 to my personal bank account every now and then, it would also be a nice gesture. And as likely to happen. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindcircus.1506 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 On 5/12/2021 at 5:36 PM, DaVid Darksoul.4985 said: It would be awesome if anet would include a gem drop along the same frequency as ascended drops. Maybe a hundred gem chest? Hot Take: This isn't as bad an idea as the people dog piling on you might think. While the drop rate you are suggesting isn't super wise, I think a drop rate similar to that of Black Lion Keys for a 100 Gem chest isnt a terrible idea. Most games with MT currencies are far more generous with handing them over as in game rewards and it doesn't drive them broke. It is a proven method of onboarding people into cash shops. I know if I had spent all my Gems and had 100 of them suddenly drop I sure would be more likely to open up the Gemstore, see what was there and potentially spend a few dollars to top up my balance if there was something I wanted. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 3 hours ago, mindcircus.1506 said: Most games with MT currencies are far more generous with handing them over as in game rewards ANet gives MT currency with every single monster drop. Which other games gives MT currency at greater than 100% rate? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindcircus.1506 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 33 minutes ago, Ashen.2907 said: ANet gives MT currency with every single monster drop. Which other games gives MT currency at greater than 100% rate? Any game that allows you to resell cash shop items on this in game market. So like... lots of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuchslein.8639 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 5 hours ago, mindcircus.1506 said: Hot Take: This isn't as bad an idea as the people dog piling on you might think. While the drop rate you are suggesting isn't super wise, I think a drop rate similar to that of Black Lion Keys for a 100 Gem chest isnt a terrible idea. Most games with MT currencies are far more generous with handing them over as in game rewards and it doesn't drive them broke. It is a proven method of onboarding people into cash shops. I know if I had spent all my Gems and had 100 of them suddenly drop I sure would be more likely to open up the Gemstore, see what was there and potentially spend a few dollars to top up my balance if there was something I wanted. The thing is, with 100gems they would currently give the players something valuable right away.The keys are to 99% only crap with which Anet makes absolutely no loss but only a gimmick to pretend players a generosity. I think you can't compare that. But I would not find it bad. I mean, how often does the otto-normal player drop ascended things or even keys. I think I have in my years of playing get 3 Ascended chests in the OpenWorld/WVW and maybe 4 keys or so and I'm still on the lucky side in my friends list with this rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindBlade.8749 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Fuchslein.8639 said: The thing is, with 100gems they would currently give the players something valuable right away.The keys are to 99% only crap with which Anet makes absolutely no loss but only a gimmick to pretend players a generosity. I think you can't compare that. But I would not find it bad. I mean, how often does the otto-normal player drop ascended things or even keys. I think I have in my years of playing get 3 Ascended chests in the OpenWorld/WVW and maybe 4 keys or so and I'm still on the lucky side in my friends list with this rate. i drop like 5-6 ascend piece by week. Yes it's not in openworld but it's still a ingame activity that everyone can do if they try (not just ultra rare rng) and still count (fractals cms and raids) Edited May 23, 2021 by WindBlade.8749 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuchslein.8639 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 3 hours ago, WindBlade.8749 said: i drop like 5-6 ascend piece by week. Yes it's not in openworld but it's still a ingame activity that everyone can do if they try (not just ultra rare rng) and still count (fractals cms and raids) Ehrm ... okay, thanks for this input which has absolutely nothing to do with my contribution as you wrote yourself ^^''. I've already forgotten how discussions work here, thanks for the reminder :''D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindBlade.8749 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Fuchslein.8639 said: Ehrm ... okay, thanks for this input which has absolutely nothing to do with my contribution as you wrote yourself ^^''. I've already forgotten how discussions work here, thanks for the reminder :''D. and ? it's not because you don't play the gamemodes where the ascended is really needed and that drop it that areanet don't reward it. ok for infusion but you can't say areanet don't give ascended. You can get so much ascended trinkets easely in openworld, lot of weapons in raids, lot of armors in fractals cms and quite a lot in openworld achivement of all ascended gears. Edited May 23, 2021 by WindBlade.8749 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuchslein.8639 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, WindBlade.8749 said: and ? it's not because you don't play the gamemodes where the ascended is really needed and that drop it that areanet don't reward it. ok for infusion but you can't say areanet don't give ascended. You can get so much ascended trinkets easely in openworld, lot of weapons in raids, lot of armors in fractals cms and quite a lot in openworld achivement of all ascended gears. Are you sure you are in the right thread? Are you confusing me with someone else? We are talking about whether it would make sense to add a 100gem drop that is as rare as asc or key drops in open world oo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 13 hours ago, Astralporing.1957 said: If they were to send $50 to my personal bank account every now and then, it would also be a nice gesture. And as likely to happen. Hey, stop copying my homework 🙃 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 9 hours ago, mindcircus.1506 said: Any game that allows you to resell cash shop items on this in game market. So like... lots of them Honest question here, they allow selling the cash shop items for their real money purchased currencies? Even so, if those cash shop items come from the cash shop, it is not the same as giving the cash shop currency for free with (essentially) every monster drop. Even so, I responded to a post claiming that other games give real money purchased currency as a drop greater than 100% of the time. How do these other games you mention managed to give something greater than 100% of the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 5 hours ago, Fuchslein.8639 said: Are you sure you are in the right thread? Are you confusing me with someone else? We are talking about whether it would make sense to add a 100gem drop that is as rare as asc or key drops in open world oo. Read Op again they dident specifiy open world just that it would drop so would affect the whole game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuchslein.8639 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Linken.6345 said: Read Op again they dident specifiy open world just that it would drop so would affect the whole game. I didn't answer the op ^^. The suggestion was spun further. I responded to it because it seemed more reasonable to me than the OP's idea. Is that not allowed? Edited May 23, 2021 by Fuchslein.8639 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Fuchslein.8639 said: I didn't answer the op ^^. The suggestion was spun further. I responded to it because it seemed more reasonable to me than the OP's idea. Is that not allowed? Your the first I saw limiting it to open world tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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