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Elusive Mind Needs Some Love

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  • Tiah.3091Tiah.3091 Member ✭✭✭

    @Master Ketsu.4569 said:
    All the balance team has to do is revert that one skill and Holosmith is probably balanced.

    Suuuure!
    1) 70% uptime avatar form with above-than-berserker level of damage and 2-5 seconds cooldowns.
    2) perma-stability through corona burst trait
    3) perma swiftness, protection and regen
    4) Perma-vigor and dodges every 5 sec
    5) 20k overall heals per 30 seconds
    6) 3 skills chain CC
    7) 600 units dash on 2 seconds cooldown

    All of the above, while wearing glass amulet like demo. With 0 concentration.

    Suuuuuure. Holo is perfectly fine, apart from Ele U.

  • @Azure The Heartless.3261 said:

    @tinyreborn.1938 said:
    ALSO since when mirage even more broken than before? After all those nerfs its way weaker than its used to be by a lot . Before mirage could play sword torch staff and now if you play it you dont do any pressure and cant 1x1 anything . May be you are right, all nerfs made mirage stronger... Can we do the same with other overperforming classes? Make them busted via nerfs! You made my day lad

    They did not get stronger numbers wise, the nerf just made more people slot a stronger trait since EM is now so unappealing. Their presence as a whole in the PVP sphere is now worse because the nerf to EM did not fix the issue, it just made more mirages slot IH.

    @tinyreborn.1938 said:

    (Wootofok u talking about here?)

    Mirages can, due to Mirage cloak, evade when stunned, even without taking Elusive Mind. Every other class in the game has to slot a utility skill to address stuns. Mirage does not. all it costs them is endurance.

    I'm getting the feeling you don't understand the kind of advantage that affords, though.

    I'm more than aware what mirage cloak does. Other classes doesnt use their dodges for offence as mirage does while having gutted vigor. Be happy he burn 1-2 dodges to cover stuns and not being able to pressure you and forced to retreat.
    You confused me like mirage need to dodge to distarget xD
    I still dont understand what is your complain there? Number of mesmers decreased thanks to all nerfs. Very few ppl I see on lb that play mesmer (and they are not really high there)
    Complains about dodge in cc is like ... other classes dont have mirage elite spec feature , pls fix

  • You bette go removing it and replace it with something completely different... elusive mind is a design problem ... it was completely overpowered to be able to dodge basedline at start... but a breakstun in addition. It's a bad joke from Anet honestly.

    (and then they said Weaver was a important time effort ... which is super lackluster anyway. They better not put effort in ele anymore tbh.)

  • I agree IM needs a buff or rather slight un-nerf. As it stands there's basically no reason to take it over IH on any spec.

  • Devilman.1532Devilman.1532 Member ✭✭✭

    @Vieux P.1238 said:

    @Devilman.1532 said:
    and the MESEMERLOLTRAIN rolls on... don't you guys get it? Its what they consider their "signature class" that many of the Devs play. It will never be razed tot he ground like other classes int he history of this game have been and to a degree still are.

    Arent you the guy playing Broken passives Holo?

    Nope wouldn't play that trashbag if you paid me

  • I really should went through this wall ...again ? I could but I'm sick and feel bad for it

    Asking players to monitor the mirage's options from stealth etc.etc.etc

    Asking players to play the game ... How dare you?!

  • @tinyreborn.1938 said:

    I really should went through this wall ...again ? I could but I'm sick and feel bad for it

    Asking players to monitor the mirage's options from stealth etc.etc.etc

    Asking players to play the game ... How dare you?!

    Obviously I was mistaken in thinking I could reason with you about this. <3

    [Charr Noises]
    [Plays every class]
    [Balance is not going to happen Play whatever is easiest.]

  • @Azure The Heartless.3261 said:

    @tinyreborn.1938 said:

    I really should went through this wall ...again ? I could but I'm sick and feel bad for it

    Asking players to monitor the mirage's options from stealth etc.etc.etc

    Asking players to play the game ... How dare you?!

    Obviously I was mistaken in thinking I could reason with you about this. <3

    Okay <3

  • incisorr.9502incisorr.9502 Member ✭✭✭

    there are 3 holos and rangers in top 10 regularly but there's 1-3 mirages in... TOP 40 .. of the european leaderboard

    i think facts speak for themselves, mirage is nowhere near as good as before due to all the nerfs and it can use some buffs not just on EM

    vigor uptime was reduced by 50%
    condi duration was overall reduced by 20-%ish
    burn was reworked to have less stacks (which means less burst damage)
    confusion doesn't do damage for the skill that cleanses it any more (it did before)

    on top of that power classes were buffed throughout time so power is already much better than condi in general

    on top of that the rise of boonbeast also hinders mesmer because boonbeast is a counter to mesmer

  • Blue.1207Blue.1207 Member ✭✭✭

    Elusive mind is currently pretty kitten. If Anet wants to rework it then it’s time to remove the ability to dodge when CC’d as a base mirage ability (op beyond heck), and move it into elusive mind while halving the exhaustion duration.

  • viquing.8254viquing.8254 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 10, 2018

    @Master Ketsu.4569 said:
    Being able to evade while CCed is inherently broken so

    It's less broken than having 60%+ stability uptime and/or plethora of breakstunt with strong side effects, just look at what you have, apart necro who is teamfight op but lack breakstunts, everyone have many tools to evade CC.

    @mortrialus.3062 said:

    @Oslaf Beinir.5842 said:
    Why use EM when IH is there?

    Just the condition cleanse on dodge really.

    That's it.

  • Zaraki.5784Zaraki.5784 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Ah, mesmers complaining about their OPness not being enough, now I've seen everything!

    "Sticks and stones may break your bones but words will never be able to injure you!"
    The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy

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