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I'm worried about this game, When WOW classic Comes out.

I honestly Hooope nothing will happen to this game, it's a good game. But if we don't get a HUGE update like a new expansion/content come August there won't be anyone left playing this game. No players= no money = no content. It's gonna be a vicious cycle.

So What new content are we getting in August, and will it be enough to stop people from going to WOW CLassic?

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  • Just a flesh wound.3589Just a flesh wound.3589 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2019

    Some people may go try WoW classic but how long will they stay to do the leveling quests and the dungeons that they could already do in the old game, and minus all the conveniences that the old game has added. And once they’ve done them, then what? Is Blizzard going to add expansions that covers the same lore that the old game already has covered?

    Rose colored nostalgia goggles are rampant.

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  • mikhail.3506mikhail.3506 Member ✭✭

    @TanksK.4795 said:
    WoW classic is old content reskin, why would anyone play that? And yes I've played wow before gw2.

    Wow about OSRS? It's currently one of the most played MMOS atm

  • I played WoW at Vanilla. No one I know, from old guildies to family members, who actually played at vanilla are touching Classic. We know what it was like, we do not want to go back to that. The QoL list of improvements alone since Rise is longer than a Dickens novel. Give that up for old content and old everything? C'mon.

    I was unsurprised when the test pop tanked. I will not be surprised when it turns out there is only a small subset of players that stick with Classic.

  • akemi.1403akemi.1403 Member ✭✭

    @mikhail.3506 said:
    I honestly Hooope nothing will happen to this game, it's a good game. But if we don't get a HUGE update like a new expansion/content come August there won't be anyone left playing this game. No players= no money = no content. It's gonna be a vicious cycle.

    So What new content are we getting in August, and will it be enough to stop people from going to WOW CLassic?

    ironforgewowclassic.jpg

    It's almost the same exact post I see in other MMO forums with:
    1) acting worrisome for the current game
    2) praising the current game
    3) comparing the current game to the "clearly" better content of the advertised one

    There is a pattern and it may probably be just subtle advertisement.

  • JDub.1530JDub.1530 Member ✭✭✭

    I don't see how WoW Classic is sustainable. Sure it will make a big splash on release and draw in a lot of players. But eventually everyone will hit max level, do end game content, and then what? I doubt there is going to be significant content releases (probably just annual WoW holidays), so eventually people will get bored with a static game and either go back to regular WoW or elsewhere. Sure it will likely maintain a small dedicated population, but outside of that WoW Classic has an expiration date IMHO.

    As for GW2 itself. We COULD see LW Season 5 come out in August. That would be about 3 months after the release of War Eternal. I'm thinking that's a bit early though, and it will probably be another month or two until S5 (but if ANet pushes it much further than Sept/Oct it could be risky).

    Personally I'm looking very much forward to LWS5. It will be the first major content release (that wasn't already deep in production) since the shake up at Anet, and I think will give us a good indication of where the game is headed in the future.

  • vesica tempestas.1563vesica tempestas.1563 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @mikhail.3506 said:
    I honestly Hooope nothing will happen to this game, it's a good game. But if we don't get a HUGE update like a new expansion/content come August there won't be anyone left playing this game. No players= no money = no content. It's gonna be a vicious cycle.

    So What new content are we getting in August, and will it be enough to stop people from going to WOW CLassic?

    ironforgewowclassic.jpg

    Not so sure of any impact, been playing wow vanilla servers for years, and the game is aged, it's mainly to reminse, however the wow player base is so aggressive and trained to rush to end game, where 40 man raids await that requires dedicating huge swathes of time that's it is going to get old Fast.

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  • FrizzFreston.5290FrizzFreston.5290 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Yugz.6925 said:
    GW2 community is absolutly nowhere close to WoW classic community. WoW classic, is a slow game, very close to IRL roleplay games. GW2 community just cries when they can't get something easily, that just won't be the case on Classic WoW. More than that, the whole roleplay aspect is essential to fully enjoy the game, the GW2 community is faaaar from that and they just won't enjoy the game.

    The hype about classic is real but it won't last. When people are going to realise what the game is about they will simply leave it. However, there will be players that actually enjoy the immersion of the game and the whole roleplay aspect of it. These will be the players that stay on the game, not GW2 instantdopamine players.

    I think you mean people who have a life beside playing games rather than "instant dopamine players".

  • Tiviana.2650Tiviana.2650 Member ✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2019

    @Airdive.2613 said:
    I still remember how Bless Online killed GW 2.

    WoW is a big difference than Bless was. There are a lot of wow players playing gw2, wow is a behemoth and yes people are going to play classic its included in the game one sub gets you regular game and classic. They have really upgraded the engine and performance of that game also. GW2 is a good game, you can play both if you have the time im going to try myself. I like wow i played it a very long time, longer than gw2 has been out, but i needed a break. I also intend to stay playing gw2 no matter what for the foreseeable future, there is no rule that says i cant play both, only my own time limits

    @vesica tempestas.1563 said:

    @mikhail.3506 said:
    I honestly Hooope nothing will happen to this game, it's a good game. But if we don't get a HUGE update like a new expansion/content come August there won't be anyone left playing this game. No players= no money = no content. It's gonna be a vicious cycle.

    So What new content are we getting in August, and will it be enough to stop people from going to WOW CLassic?

    ironforgewowclassic.jpg

    Not so sure of any impact, been playing wow vanilla servers for years, and the game is aged, it's mainly to reminse, however the wow player base is so aggressive and trained to rush to end game, where 40 man raids await that requires dedicating huge swathes of time that's it is going to get old Fast.

    You know people say it will get old fast, but really its no dif than any other mmo including this one. You run over the same ground no matter what game you play. WoW has a lot more zone content than just raids. What do you do in this game, huge swaths of time doing metas, zone completion, dailies, its only the type of content thats a bit different. I mean after all they are just games play them or dont. Neither is bad or good its just what kind of game you like and have fun in.

  • Tren.5120Tren.5120 Member ✭✭

    @Haleydawn.3764 said:
    I didn’t realise players had to only play and spend money one game.

    Time is a limited resource, and becomes increasingly so as it passes.

  • akemi.1403akemi.1403 Member ✭✭
    edited July 12, 2019

    @Yugz.6925 said:
    GW2 community is absolutly nowhere close to WoW classic community. WoW classic, is a slow game, very close to IRL roleplay games. GW2 community just cries when they can't get something easily, that just won't be the case on Classic WoW. More than that, the whole roleplay aspect is essential to fully enjoy the game, the GW2 community is faaaar from that and they just won't enjoy the game.

    The hype about classic is real but it won't last. When people are going to realise what the game is about they will simply leave it. However, there will be players that actually enjoy the immersion of the game and the whole roleplay aspect of it. These will be the players that stay on the game, not GW2 instantdopamine players.
    @FrizzFreston.5290 said:

    @Yugz.6925 said:
    GW2 community is absolutly nowhere close to WoW classic community. WoW classic, is a slow game, very close to IRL roleplay games. GW2 community just cries when they can't get something easily, that just won't be the case on Classic WoW. More than that, the whole roleplay aspect is essential to fully enjoy the game, the GW2 community is faaaar from that and they just won't enjoy the game.

    The hype about classic is real but it won't last. When people are going to realise what the game is about they will simply leave it. However, there will be players that actually enjoy the immersion of the game and the whole roleplay aspect of it. These will be the players that stay on the game, not GW2 instantdopamine players.

    I think you mean people who have a life beside playing games rather than "instant dopamine players".

    Considering most of the WoW players are quite toxic unlike the original GW community, this might be a Bless-ing.

  • Zephyr.5382Zephyr.5382 Member ✭✭✭

    I'm not worried.

  • @mikhail.3506 said:
    I'm worried about this game, When WOW classic Comes out.
    I honestly Hooope nothing will happen to this game, it's a good game. But if we don't get a HUGE update like a new expansion/content come August there won't be anyone left playing this game. No players= no money = no content. It's gonna be a vicious cycle.

    I don't think you fully realized how hyped up WOW classic is.

    Who cares about WoW Classic?

    Like majority of the Real old school mmo players? So most of us?

    Combining all of that, I'd say the OP need not worry, based on even their anecdote-based analysis. The target audience is "real old school MMO players who fondly remember the original WoW and are playing GW2 instead, because they couldn't get 'old school' MMO." That's such a narrow fraction of the GW2 community, then even if they all left and never returned, it's hard to imagine the game would notice.

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  • Cuks.8241Cuks.8241 Member ✭✭✭

    I guess it's the only thing Blizzard can do in these times. Rehashing of their glory days games. I doubt it will be hugely popular after the initial hype.
    Vanilla Wow was technically a good game for it's time and like any new mmo it was fun because everything was new and there was a lot of exploration of game world and mechanics. But today? Unless they will introduce new content into the world, the game will die down quickly.

  • Amaranthe.3578Amaranthe.3578 Member ✭✭✭

    @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:
    Some people may go try WoW classic but how long will they stay to do the leveling quests and the dungeons that they could already do in the old game, and minus all the conveniences that the old game has added. And once they’ve done them, then what? Is Blizzard going to add expansions that covers the same lore that the old game already has covered?

    Rose colored nostalgia goggles are rampant.

    You never know. The Vanilla private servers were crazily populated and had unbelievably dedicated communityieat. I think classic wow will have a steady population, probably bigger than GW2 has.

  • Brother.1504Brother.1504 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Every new game is the every current game killer if you believe the internet.

  • @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:
    Some people may go try WoW classic but how long will they stay to do the leveling quests and the dungeons that they could already do in the old game, and minus all the conveniences that the old game has added. And once they’ve done them, then what? Is Blizzard going to add expansions that covers the same lore that the old game already has covered?

    Rose colored nostalgia goggles are rampant.

    You never know. The Vanilla private servers were crazily populated and had unbelievably dedicated communityieat. I think classic wow will have a steady population, probably bigger than GW2 has.

    Ok. I’ll guess we should all panic now

    Or not

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  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2019

    Wow classic will be popular or at least initially. It’s worked elsewhere - lotro did a similar thing to success beyond expectations.

    It will however not cause any significant issues for gw2. GW2 for all its current problems (point of view dependant), is popular and retains a loyal player base. Wow classic will likely grab lapsed players who prob only dabble a little on mmos or existing wow players.

    GW2 will do it’s own thing and carry on regardless. There is simply nothing to worry about.

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  • Amaranthe.3578Amaranthe.3578 Member ✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2019

    @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:
    Some people may go try WoW classic but how long will they stay to do the leveling quests and the dungeons that they could already do in the old game, and minus all the conveniences that the old game has added. And once they’ve done them, then what? Is Blizzard going to add expansions that covers the same lore that the old game already has covered?

    Rose colored nostalgia goggles are rampant.

    You never know. The Vanilla private servers were crazily populated and had unbelievably dedicated communityieat. I think classic wow will have a steady population, probably bigger than GW2 has.

    Ok. I’ll guess we should all panic now

    Or not

    What are you smoking?
    No reason to panic, I actually said in this thread that GW2 doesn't compete with Classic WoW and that its not an issue. o_0". They appeal to different games.

  • Eekasqueak.7850Eekasqueak.7850 Member ✭✭✭

    Old school MMOs are garbage IMO, I like GW2 because of the differences it has over traditional hotbar MMOs.

  • TheGrimm.5624TheGrimm.5624 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2019

    @Brother.1504 said:
    Every new game is the every current game killer if you believe the internet.

    And this isn't even a new game.

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  • LucianDK.8615LucianDK.8615 Member ✭✭✭✭

    People are dramatically overstating WoW classic. The wast majority of the playerbase may check it out, but most certainly run screaming away due to how unforgiving and demanding it is of your time. Pull too many mobs? You are dead. You have to frequently sit and eat and drink, and many classes have no means of selfhealing at all. It takes a long time to get to lvl 60, especially for a beginner. Be prepared for graveyard runs and respawning mobs in instances if you took too long to clear it.

  • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Airdive.2613 said:
    I still remember how Bless Online killed GW 2.

    Really? Since the game still exists, the servers are still running, people are playing this game and it still receives new content frequently, I think your statement is simply untrue.

  • Yargesh.4965Yargesh.4965 Member ✭✭✭

    @Ashantara.8731 said:

    @Airdive.2613 said:
    I still remember how Bless Online killed GW 2.

    Really? Since the game still exists, the servers are still running, people are playing this game and it still receives new content frequently, I think your statement is simply untrue.

    That was the point of their post, Bless crashed and burned without a trace on release outside of Asia after being the next dream game that everyone would play.

  • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Yargesh.4965 said:

    @Ashantara.8731 said:

    @Airdive.2613 said:
    I still remember how Bless Online killed GW 2.

    Really? Since the game still exists, the servers are still running, people are playing this game and it still receives new content frequently, I think your statement is simply untrue.

    That was the point of their post, Bless crashed and burned without a trace on release outside of Asia after being the next dream game that everyone would play.

    Okay, never heard of it, hence didn't catch the sarcasm. ;)

    By the way, never played WoW, so I had to look up the "big news". What a curious concept to release the game again, so to speak, from scratch.

  • Aplethoraof.2643Aplethoraof.2643 Member ✭✭✭

    @mikhail.3506 said:

    @maddoctor.2738 said:
    Who cares about WoW Classic?

    Like majority of the Real old school mmo players? So most of us?

    I don't think they do. WoW Classic has been out for years. There are a plethora of private servers dedicated to it.

    Also, WoW Classic (going off private servers, some of which have even offered slight improvements but the many of which are 'vanilla') is 100% nostalgia factor. The game does not hold up in the modern day. It is grindy as all hell, it offers far less variety than what is currently available, the mechanics are dated (the MMO genre has improved on them vastly as a whole) and, of course, the graphics are terrible. It is pure nostalgia factor. There is a reason why the MMO community moved away from it, that was the bare bones for what an MMO should be now-a-days.

    The people who truly feel like they enjoy it should be booting up private servers ASAP to give it a go. The people who actively enjoy it currently have established characters in communities within these private servers and will need some pretty hefty incentives to move away from them (kind of the same mentality to WoW Killers vs WoW back in the day).

    I'm pretty sure all Classic WoW is, is Blizzard trying to draw people away from those private servers and into Blizzard-Activision's pockets again. Most people aren't going to enjoy it, it is a very niche game for the people who get their kicks from nostalgia (and dated design).

    @Ashantara.8731 said:

    @Airdive.2613 said:
    I still remember how Bless Online killed GW 2.

    Really? Since the game still exists, the servers are still running, people are playing this game and it still receives new content frequently, I think your statement is simply untrue.

    That was sarcasm I think. Because people were talking about "Oh, Bless Online is going to kill GW2". Shortly after Bless's launch, we had refugees incoming.

    Maybe many 'hardcore' MMO players are different (I like to enjoy a variety of games, not just one, which would make me more to the casual side of MMO gaming since I don't devote all my waking hours to it), but anytime a hot new MMO comes out, I see those conversations everywhere on MMO boards.

    I guess MMO players have more reason to worry than people who play 'games not as a service', since if the MMO isn't profitable enough then the MMO will be shut down for good. Higher stakes, maybe.

    Do you want a balanced GW2? Then you are obliged to unironically agree with this suggestion!

  • spectrito.8513spectrito.8513 Member ✭✭✭

    WoW classic is appealing for those stuck in sPvP and WvW who barely gets any attetion from Anet.
    Those 2 game modes are dying, bugs takes ages to be fixed, promising updates that never come, updates are rare and most of the times they only create more problems than they fix.
    WoW classic is fun a lot more fun for PvP oriented players, hardcore and casuals.

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Blocki.4931 said:
    Despite still being very popular (esp compared to regular wow), have you even seen the drop in classic a week into their testing? People lost interest really quickly, most people didn't log back in.

    I don't think these two games have the same audience anyway. Sure, you'll have a bunch of people check it out (again) and maybe play for a while, but they're not going to quit one for the other.

    Were did we get these stats? I do remember a drop but it wasnt nearly close to a week after beta launch. Also its worth considering that classic is quite the investmemt heavy game, i assume no one would want to get birned out before its even out.

  • kratan.4619kratan.4619 Member ✭✭✭

    @mikhail.3506 said:

    @maddoctor.2738 said:
    Who cares about WoW Classic?

    Like majority of the Real old school mmo players? So most of us?

    Old school mmo players would be more interested in classic Everquest or Classic Asheron's call. WoW is too recent.

  • Goettel.4389Goettel.4389 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Classic WoW will cost nearly €150 a year to play though.

  • Kaliwenda.3428Kaliwenda.3428 Member ✭✭✭

    I'm not worried.

  • Cobrakon.3108Cobrakon.3108 Member ✭✭✭

    The Nostalgia will probably wear off eventually. People are also going to burn through the content quicker because they know exactly what to do, rather than waiting for top guilds to establish the meta and have it trickle down slowly over months.

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