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December World Linking Update

Hi Everyone,

Due to the holidays we’re going to delay the next iteration of world linking until the end of January. At that point we’ll resume the standard cadence of re-linking every two months.

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  • gg lol no links for yoouuuuuu

    Te lazla otstara.

  • killfil.3472killfil.3472 Member ✭✭✭

    Acceptable.

  • CrimsonNeonite.1048CrimsonNeonite.1048 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 13, 2019

    They messed up NA relinks last year, so it's understandable, but I know many people are getting bored with T1 EU and how stacked Blacktide is compared to other links even though it's classified as Medium, so another month is bleh.

  • Mireles Lore.5942Mireles Lore.5942 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 12, 2019

    Great stuck in this link for another month...

    How's that alliance update coming?

  • Mini Crinny.6190Mini Crinny.6190 Member ✭✭✭✭

    On stream it was mentioned that having it every 2 months from january would avoid the problem of doing it around Christmas, If alliances were coming out next year then this woudn't be a problem, so I guess that this sort of means no alliance update next year?

  • Ubi.4136Ubi.4136 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Well, that is the first decent news we've had. It beats them moving us from tier 3 or 4 (where TC should be) up to tier 1 because they can't do math and use 3 year old numbers at relink. Every relink it's the same thing. They put us in T1 or 2 where we don't have the numbers or coverage to compete, and then it takes 4-7 weeks to finally get where we should be, and boom, they drop us back in T1.

    Lost in the Maguuma (TC)
    For the geographically challenged, yes, Tarnished Coast is located IN the Maguuma Jungle.

  • Remove links, let under populated links have a free move to a server of their choice, with less servers more poulation in EU YAY and now you can add tournaments. I never get why this was not done long ago when we realised that links are kitten for WvW and Arena Net said when they were adding them that if it does not work we can remove them. Yes please do, and remove the lowest servers, there are too many of them and too few players!

  • StrawHat.2639StrawHat.2639 Member ✭✭✭

    @Leaa.2943 said:
    Remove links, let under populated links have a free move to a server of their choice, with less servers more poulation in EU YAY and now you can add tournaments. I never get why this was not done long ago when we realised that links are kitten for WvW and Arena Net said when they were adding them that if it does not work we can remove them. Yes please do, and remove the lowest servers, there are too many of them and too few players!

    They left links to juggle pops, but we all know it doesnt work.

    Sanji
    Lost last glimmer of enthusiasm for WvW

    Anet dragon has finally defeated the
    **WvW WarBorn **
    He's over 7000!
    Havok lover with a sprinkle of Zerging

  • I mean i understand but why didn't this happen 4 months ago with 1 month?

  • StrawHat.2639StrawHat.2639 Member ✭✭✭

    @L A T I O N.8923 said:
    I mean i understand but why didn't this happen 4 months ago with 1 month?

    Would have been a better foresight indeed!

    Sanji
    Lost last glimmer of enthusiasm for WvW

    Anet dragon has finally defeated the
    **WvW WarBorn **
    He's over 7000!
    Havok lover with a sprinkle of Zerging

  • :(:(:(:(:(

    Carcharoth Lucian/Mini Chibii
    Augury Rock world
    PvE : [CdL] Les Chasseurs De Légendes
    WvW : [MIMs] Mobile Ingénieuse Et Marteau

  • neven.3785neven.3785 Member ✭✭✭

    Thank you for not relinking during the holiday again. Hope people remember that last time they relinked during the holiday it bugged out and there was a 4 server pairing, meanwhile the anet representative argued with people on the forums that there was nothing wrong without even checking for themselves. That was the worst pairing i've been in, as a server in the 4 person linking, i never bothered logging in after reset because we owned everything on every map non stop.

  • Booey Bubblehead.4890Booey Bubblehead.4890 Member ✭✭
    edited December 12, 2019

    So much complaining about "bad links". Based on the feedback EVERY link is bad so what's the difference.

  • StrawHat.2639StrawHat.2639 Member ✭✭✭

    @Booey Bubblehead.4890 said:
    So much complaining about "bad links". Based on the feedback EVERY link is bad so what's the difference.

    People want a fresh start to the new yr...

    Sanji
    Lost last glimmer of enthusiasm for WvW

    Anet dragon has finally defeated the
    **WvW WarBorn **
    He's over 7000!
    Havok lover with a sprinkle of Zerging

  • Balthzar.3807Balthzar.3807 Member ✭✭✭

    T1 4 Life

    Thanks for nuthin

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Tarragon.4302 said:
    i dont really understand why you guys would wait an entire month instead of just doing it like a week earlier. waiting a month is just going to make more people not play the game because they're stuck in boring and bad matchups. NA prime in t1 right now is just people losing 1 fight then sitting in their keep and just using siege. its so unbelievably boring to play

    This has to be false. According to the forums only the evil empire in NA does such...

    Thank You for the {MEME}

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Mini Crinny.6190 said:
    On stream it was mentioned that having it every 2 months from january would avoid the problem of doing it around Christmas, If alliances were coming out next year then this woudn't be a problem, so I guess that this sort of means no alliance update next year?

    I feel like we won’t see alliances then either, however, there will be ‘relinking’ periods. It has been assumed (maybe incorrectly) that there would be periods of world creation which would group some alliances together along with non allied guilds and players every so often. I am not sure if they said 8ish weeks, but the timeline is in place from the linking periods so that COULD be a logical timeframe for ‘world creation’.

    So, a similar process to now where servers are re linked may be on tap with ‘world creation’ or ‘linking’ alliances together.

    Thank You for the {MEME}

  • zengara.8301zengara.8301 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 13, 2019

    Prooooobably one of the worst times to actually wait for the next re-link since re-link was made. Maybe A-Net missed out on all the drama?

  • @PeerlessArch.6547 said:
    Yeah -- Re-link every week or 2 weeks even. That will stop the server hoppers. But then again..that means no gem sales...

    Yeah, because all the kitten they put in the Black Lion Store doesn't sell at all.

  • Nimon.7840Nimon.7840 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Nooooooo. What do I do then? My link is dead.
    Makes me really sad.

    But I do understand. Merry Christmas to the devs!

  • StrawHat.2639StrawHat.2639 Member ✭✭✭

    @Nimon.7840 said:
    Nooooooo. What do I do then? My link is dead.
    Makes me really sad.

    But I do understand. Merry Christmas to the devs!

    Must be DB...it is then...sad.

    Sanji
    Lost last glimmer of enthusiasm for WvW

    Anet dragon has finally defeated the
    **WvW WarBorn **
    He's over 7000!
    Havok lover with a sprinkle of Zerging

  • Nice, time to play on another account. Even our host server is dead.

    Disciples of the monkey god [Apes]

  • Klypto.1703Klypto.1703 Member ✭✭✭

    The status of wvw right now its pretty much not even a game mode anymore its just a place where the afk, leechers, and bots go to get free rewards. I'm pretty sure a lot of players would love 4 servers against them versus dealing with bots in wvw.

  • aspirine.6852aspirine.6852 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Booey Bubblehead.4890 said:
    So much complaining about "bad links". Based on the feedback EVERY link is bad so what's the difference.

    Some, not all but some links are bad right after relinking since people just transfer off them the same weekend they get relinked :/ And this is quite the opposite of what relinking is about.

  • A bit related: I noticed that the servers are more and more often getting a status of "high", "very high" and "full". However, my subjective experience and the queues for reset tell me that the servers are rather losing members than gaining. My impression is that the status is manually set higher. My interpretation is that it is an introduction of the alliances through the backdoor. A "server" could serve as an alliance and the introduction of alliances would become obsolet. Is my impression correct?

  • @gloflop.3510 said:
    A bit related: I noticed that the servers are more and more often getting a status of "high", "very high" and "full". However, my subjective experience and the queues for reset tell me that the servers are rather losing members than gaining. My impression is that the status is manually set higher.

    Server status are just thresholds defined by A-net, so yes they can modify the ppl amount hidden behind it.

    Carcharoth Lucian/Mini Chibii
    Augury Rock world
    PvE : [CdL] Les Chasseurs De Légendes
    WvW : [MIMs] Mobile Ingénieuse Et Marteau

  • Lol. Oh man. How difficult is it to not stack 1 or 2 servers with too many people? I mean, it's got to be some pretty basic math. Our current tier is ridiculous. I very rarely have to repair armor since we are usually outnumbered on more than one BL at a time, so I guess...upside? How hard is relinking?

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 13, 2019

    @gloflop.3510 said:
    A bit related: I noticed that the servers are more and more often getting a status of "high", "very high" and "full". However, my subjective experience and the queues for reset tell me that the servers are rather losing members than gaining. My impression is that the status is manually set higher. My interpretation is that it is an introduction of the alliances through the backdoor. A "server" could serve as an alliance and the introduction of alliances would become obsolet. Is my impression correct?

    The linking process is.

    My thoughts on what you are noting: they have lowered the ‘full’ threshold for two purposes. One is to keep the server population from reflecting exactly how low it is. (They don’t want all the servers to show high or medium..) And two, it keeps the evil empire from actually opening or getting a link.

    Thank You for the {MEME}

  • Adzekul.3104Adzekul.3104 Member ✭✭✭

    I agree that a relink between Christmas and New Year's is just silly. But why not relink on Dec 20th and then again either end of Jan or end of March?

  • Could you advance the relink instead of delaying it, please?

  • two weeks, I would have understood, but a whole month? that's a bit much.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 13, 2019

    sits back and hopes the relinks don’t actually change links

    Thank You for the {MEME}

  • I hope next relink puts vabbi with another English speaking server all our commanders are German text and speaking for last few links 😖

  • Svarty.8019Svarty.8019 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I would appreciate it if the developers could kindly consider doing the relink before Christmas rather than waiting until the END OF FOREVER AWAY(!) - Please could you ask the decision-maker-in-chief to take another look at this?

    Thief OP? Better nerf Scourge ... again.
    Hashtag BlameMcLain

  • Yes, please, do like last year!
    A whole extra month is too much.

  • Bigpapasmurf.5623Bigpapasmurf.5623 Member ✭✭✭✭

    In my linking, im actually having some of the best fights ive had in a while (even while outnumbered). Im happy to have a bit more time with them.

    Red = Dead...or someone runs away. Either way it's gone.
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  • ArchonWing.9480ArchonWing.9480 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 13, 2019

    "As a sign of the holiday spirit, we'd like to offer uhh... what is this... WvW players that we care. Just kidding! We're off to the holidays!"

    I mean, who else will open Blackgate?

  • Zellrode.1584Zellrode.1584 Member
    edited December 14, 2019

    Look at the state of DB & SF... thats all i have to say.

  • Mil.3562Mil.3562 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 14, 2019

    @Hannelore.8153 said:
    Try relinking every matchup instead of every few months so that people don't get stuck in bad links forever? Two months is already just a massive amount of time in the gaming world, most AAA games don't even last that long for their entire run, but you want people to stick around for a single game mode for a seven-year-old game in the hopes that next time, it'll be better (only to get worse again).

    I'm the last person to complain about anything but please rethink your whole strategy for WvW.

    ANet cannot rethink their strategy for WvW because they have none for now, and now as in the next six months to a year at least.

    I still see many players here still clinging onto their tiny string of hope and asking ANet when Alliance is coming and even believing that there will be a 3rd expansion. Well, for the past one year plus, what is their response to our queries on progresses in restructured WvW? None. Not even a word to address our concerns and tons of queries. Is this not clear enough to indicate what is going to happen in the future? They have nothing for us players except for LWS, that lagged and crashed the game more and more often with each patch. As if these are not enough to drive more players away, they continue to come up with bigger and bigger NERF patches every few months, making our dps skills weak and support skills ineffective. And, of course we will still have their regular Gemstore item updates, but even that they can't do well anymore. Look at the recent new items... bleh.

    Developers are being kicked out, many left on their on accord, and with the remaining team's total oblivious attitude towards players queries and concerns, do you guys really still expect more from this game? Well, Merry Xmas all.

  • @fatal.8275 said:
    I hope next relink puts vabbi with another English speaking server all our commanders are German text and speaking for last few links 😖

    Every time at relinking the hope of getting an own language link, instead of trying to establish own commanders - very well, self owned ;)
    Most germans will have no problem at following an english lead. So english speaking vabbi players incl. some german players that understands english also should be zerg.