Vancho.8750 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said: You're the one not seeing how an ally can help set up your spike. I will be actually quite funny at first if the new thief speck is invisa support like people think. Blap 30k crit on the guardian and scourge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Vancho.8750 said: I will be actually quite funny at first if the new thief speck is invisa support like people think. Blap 30k crit on the guardian and scourge. Yeah, that would be funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crewthief.8649 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said: You're the one not seeing how an ally can help set up your spike. That, or I’ve seen SO many posts complaining about how you have to be stationary for 5 seconds in order to access Dragon Slash, completely disregarding the fact that you can just tap it. I dunno, the forum is just packed with an inordinate amount of whining at the moment. People clamor for something different, but when we get that, complain incessantly about losing mechanics that we’ve been using for 9 years now (burst skills). It’s funny, because we have a similar spec to Bladesworn (the Holosmith) which has been wildly successful in the competitive scene since PoF released. I figure why not play the beta event next week? If something needs adjusting, give feedback on it. If a cooldown needs decreasing, give feedback on that. Anet has financial incentive to get these elite specs right. All of this crying is 100% premature and helps absolutely nothing. Edited September 18, 2021 by crewthief.8649 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancho.8750 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Just now, Lan Deathrider.5910 said: Yeah, that would be funny. Till people brigade to nerf it like the Arc divider multiple times actually , it is kinda weird it happened multiple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Vancho.8750 said: Till people brigade to nerf it like the Arc divider multiple times actually , it is kinda weird it happened multiple times. Anet gets to ask them then with a straight face how they are getting hit by a stationary warrior giving off an obvious tell. Edit: I'm sure that you'll see the numbers normalized though, so that the tap damage is a little higher and the max charge is a little lower depending on how things go. Edited September 18, 2021 by Lan Deathrider.5910 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancho.8750 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, crewthief.8649 said: That, or I’ve seen SO many posts complaining about how you have to be stationary for 5 seconds in order to access the especs big payoff, completely disregarding the fact that you can just tap it. I dunno, the forum is just packed with an inordinate amount of whining at the moment. People clamor for something different, but when we get that, complain incessantly about losing mechanics that we’ve been using for 9 years now (burst skills). It’s funny, because we have a similar spec to Bladesworn (the Holosmith) which has been wildly successful in the competitive scene since PoF released. I figure why not play the beta event next week? If something needs adjusting, give feedback on it. If a cooldown needs decreasing, give feedback on that. Anet has financial incentive to get these elite specs right. All of this crying is 100% premature and helps absolutely nothing. Holo is working cause it has the utility from engi, so it is a burst damage spec with great versatile core skills to build upon, warrior on other hand doesn't have that great utility skills, most of the power on warrior is concentrated on the weapon skill side of the UI, and we are at the 3rd spec that doesn't have strong utility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crewthief.8649 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Vancho.8750 said: Holo is working cause it has the utility from engi, so it is a burst damage spec with great versatile core skills to build upon, warrior on other hand doesn't have that great utility skills, most of the power on warrior is concentrated on the weapon skill side of the UI, and we are at the 3rd spec that doesn't have strong utility. Okay, well you can complain and I will just wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancho.8750 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said: Anet gets to ask them then with a straight face how they are getting hit by a stationary warrior giving off an obvious tell. They didn't do that for Berserker, and it is a spec literally on fire screaming I'm gona hit you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Just now, Vancho.8750 said: They didn't do that for Berserker, and it is a spec literally on fire screaming I'm gona hit you. Yeah, but I think a big reason for the first nerf was because they rolled it out during a no downstate event and berserkers were instant defeating up to 10 people at a time. Had those people just gone into downstate they probably all could have rallied themselves and killed the berserker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancho.8750 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said: Yeah, but I think a big reason for the first nerf was because they rolled it out during a no downstate event and berserkers were instant defeating up to 10 people at a time. Had those people just gone into downstate they probably all could have rallied themselves and killed the berserker. That was the rework time, what about the Dab Divider nerf before that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) I think I'm confused with regards to the blades cds. If the skills are all 24-30+ cds than is it gonna be a playsttle where u use ur blade skills than swap to ur standard weapons set to basically wait out the blades long cds, does the elite reset the blades cds? Edited September 18, 2021 by Psycoprophet.8107 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintermute.5408 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 I'm looking forward to being unable to tag a single OW boss as mass-deletion BS zerg chomps it to pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malus.2184 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Finally a Warrior focused around being calm and collected, which is an utter nightmareti fight against as they always make the rational move, than the typical mad berserker who runs on their own emotional state and is extremely easy to predeict and only an issue for people who easily get scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varrg.2704 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 I'm not a tryhard so the fact that it's basically Rurouni Kenshin: the spec sells it for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nopoet.2960 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said: You're the one not seeing how an ally can help set up your spike. The fellas over in the thieves den find this idea amusing. Let's make it happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, nopoet.2960 said: The fellas over in the thieves den find this idea amusing. Let's make it happen. I mean if even bare minimum teamwork results in a Dragon Slash wiping a node of enemies why wouldn't you do it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscuro.9720 Posted September 18, 2021 Author Share Posted September 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said: Anet gets to ask them then with a straight face how they are getting hit by a stationary warrior giving off an obvious tell. Edit: I'm sure that you'll see the numbers normalized though, so that the tap damage is a little higher and the max charge is a little lower depending on how things go. I believe cal said the formula in competitive modes is different, so that it ramps up damage quicker at lower charges, and less extreme at high charges, which seems appropriate. Obv can’t tell until it’s tested, but half charges will probably be painful as well me thinks. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesket.5728 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 The rework 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortrialus.3062 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Bladesworn is easily the coolest thematically, most fun looking, and most comprehensively designed of the new specs revealed and the runner up isn't even close. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz.4650 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 9 hours ago, Vancho.8750 said: It opens the roaming option for warrior in SPVP and it might be even good option for WvW zergs and roaming, looks like it is something like Holo / Ranger roam builds where they are gankers that can also hold a sidenode in an emergency for while. Not being great at sidenodes is not a bad thing it would leave the other 3 warrior options their niche. The cleanse thing is probably so it doesn't end up like early POF Holo and force people to supplement their build with some defensive traits and skills (with the hope that those get the a touch up for the new century) and not plop all the damage traits and skills and just run over everything. The spec is amazing all around for PVP as it is going in another role. Yeah that also was my first impression after some theorycrafting, it seems like it would be too hard to play for node when sidenoding with this spec. I think it's going to be best played as dps/roamer like engi and rev. You have way more aoe and in/out pressure than other warrior specs and barrier on ammo skills could be great self sustain in teamfights. First thing I'll be trying is: -Axe/Pistol (intel+energy sigils) -Mending, Shake it off, For Great Justice, the new stunbreak, new elite -Tactics 1-2-2 -Discipline 2-3-3 -Bladesworn flow on heal, barrier on ammo, dragon trigger reset -Zerk amulet + fighter rune 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz.4650 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 6 hours ago, Psycoprophet.8107 said: I think I'm confused with regards to the blades cds. If the skills are all 24-30+ cds than is it gonna be a playsttle where u use ur blade skills than swap to ur standard weapons set to basically wait out the blades long cds, does the elite reset the blades cds? I don't think it's as bad as you think, and the cooldown of dragon trigger seems low enough that you'll actually spend a decent amount of time in it. All the dragon slashes have 1s cooldown so unless I'm wrong you could slot the dragon trigger recharge grand master trait and chain a bunch of slashes until you run out of flow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorem.8104 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 This specs finally after years is going to make me play me fave class Warrior again, so I am hyped for sure. I Like every aspect of it. They went and gave us a Gunsaber!! AMAZING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Hunter D.5037 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 I like the idea of a unique warrior weapon, I like the skills and traits I saw. I like the themes and the Amber tech Lore on it. I think offhand pistol looks really cool. That said, I really wish we got mainhand pistol too. I really like having a ranged and melee option on every character amd warrior doesn't seem to offer that well with this spec. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comus.7365 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 the theme of the spec is the first time i've been excited for an espec since Reaper. it just looks really fun and normally i don't like warrior. i'm guessing this will be the case for many others who don't find warrior appealing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLOTH.5231 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 This spec will be fine in pve but you know if you stand still too long in WvW you die rather quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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