Ovark.2514 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 There's not much to say. You can pretty much pick any holo, scrapper or maybe even core build out of a hat right now and it will crush basically every other build. Most of the issues lie in core engi: The daze/blind explosives trait, the free stomp/revive while invuln, the stealth, the obnoxious grenade tactic of turning around mid throw (thanks vallun), the mortar and nade kit hitting through the terrain to cheese damage, the excessive amount of CC on an offhand weapon (much of which requires no target or skill to land, inc instant cast), the fact that you can win a match with auto-attack on flamethrower. The list goes on.. . 13 2 5 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shao.7236 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Been like that for a while, pulled that one off with P/P Core a few months ago, nobody would believe it but there it was. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 rev, necro and engi are cockroaches that always come back broken no matter what, nothing new here. At least port holo and nades holo are no longer so broken you can at least fight them properly now, its not too bad anymore 5 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disney.7826 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Leonidrex.5649 said: rev, necro and engi are cockroaches that always come back broken no matter what, nothing new here. At least port holo and nades holo are no longer so broken you can at least fight them properly now, its not too bad anymore Yeah, now core engi is the problem 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftFootpaws.9134 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) So basically your complaint is that Engineers can play the game after years of not being able to play the game. Maybe soon even Elementalists will get a chance to play the game, too. Edited October 8, 2021 by Hannelore.8153 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 17 minutes ago, Filip.7463 said: Yeah, now core engi is the problem where have I said core engi is a problem? or are you one of those people that purposely misunderstands and say " so what you mean is " the classic 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevlisBavles.3059 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Ovark.2514 said: There's not much to say. You can pretty much pick any holo, scrapper or maybe even core build out of a hat right now and it will crush basically every other build. Most of the issues lie in core engi: The daze/blind explosives trait, the free stomp/revive while invuln, the stealth, the obnoxious grenade tactic of turning around mid throw (thanks vallun), the mortar and nade kit hitting through the terrain to cheese damage, the excessive amount of CC on an offhand weapon (much of which requires no target or skill to land, inc instant cast), the fact that you can win a match with auto-attack on flamethrower. The list goes on.. . Then why has a team that runs 3 engis repeatedly been knocked out of ATs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimsley.3681 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Leonidrex.5649 said: rev, necro and engi are cockroaches that always come back broken no matter what, nothing new here. At least port holo and nades holo are no longer so broken you can at least fight them properly now, its not too bad anymore Yes. The engie has gotten a handful of slow nerfs. Nades damage coefficient was lowered. Purity of purpose has a CD which kinda killed a certain build. The class itself has a higher skill floor, with the exception of the FT build. I've seen different variations of that recently. FT scrapper with turrets, FT scrapper with wells etc etc. I still believe Holo is far more superior to scrapper FT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimsley.3681 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 I play Holo sometimes but like the Weaver, I suffer from hand and finger fatigue after a few matches as I have small hands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genesis.5169 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Nothing wrong with engineer. Mesmer needs buffs tho. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greedywholesome.9081 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Engie not broken pls stop. Yes I play it. While Im at it, sure, Buff mesmer. Mesmerize - was after Anton Mesmer for practicing hypnosis. In this game, that's the purpose of the clones. A cloneless elite, Virtuoso, technically isn't a "Mesmer" anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackTruth.6813 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) Hope the devs just revert the game back to pre-HoT 2015, engi wasn't even that bad after slick shoes nerf then. This class started becoming anti-fun because of the expansions/scrapper rework, engi used to require you to be good at skill shots but you know powercreep 2stonk so why not just play res bot/obnoxious builds Edited October 8, 2021 by BlackTruth.6813 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downstate.4697 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Wait until you run into a superspeed flamethrower scrapper. Its like a bug you cant get rid of. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greedywholesome.9081 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, FrownyClown.8402 said: Wait until you run into a superspeed flamethrower scrapper. Its like a bug you cant get rid of. lots of ways to counter it. Ranger, DH (since it's melee), Holo with superspeed, FA weaver, Mirage... Position yourself behind the jet cone or just range it 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disney.7826 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 7 hours ago, Leonidrex.5649 said: where have I said core engi is a problem? or are you one of those people that purposely misunderstands and say " so what you mean is " the classic OP did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Filip.7463 said: OP did. good thing you responded to him and not me then right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellhunter.9675 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 2 hours ago, FrownyClown.8402 said: Wait until you run into a superspeed flamethrower scrapper. Its like a bug you cant get rid of. I had face one in 2v2 at around 1600 mmr. Somehow it became 1v1 vs him. I was running around for 2 minutes, when antiheal appears - boom, he's dead. I was on core necro xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxoglanis.1904 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 core engi very op Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disney.7826 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 59 minutes ago, Leonidrex.5649 said: good thing you responded to him and not me then right ? Then dont post on forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 22 minutes ago, Filip.7463 said: Then dont post on forum. I really dont get your thought process. You respond to the wrong person and then tell me to not post on the forum o.O Like how does that connect at all ? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disney.7826 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 5 hours ago, Leonidrex.5649 said: I really dont get your thought process. You respond to the wrong person and then tell me to not post on the forum o.O Like how does that connect at all ? I responded to u saying prot and nade holo with adding core engi to the list. If u dont wanna be tagged then dont post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazsi.2734 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 17 hours ago, Ovark.2514 said: There's not much to say. You can pretty much pick any holo, scrapper or maybe even core build out of a hat right now and it will crush basically every other build. Most of the issues lie in core engi: The daze/blind explosives trait, the free stomp/revive while invuln, the stealth, the obnoxious grenade tactic of turning around mid throw (thanks vallun), the mortar and nade kit hitting through the terrain to cheese damage, the excessive amount of CC on an offhand weapon (much of which requires no target or skill to land, inc instant cast), the fact that you can win a match with auto-attack on flamethrower. The list goes on.. . Core engi beats "basically every other build"... lol. Who hurt you? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaoyan.1637 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 11 hours ago, FrownyClown.8402 said: Wait until you run into a superspeed flamethrower scrapper. Its like a bug you cant get rid of. If you have problems with flamethrower scrapper you are probably in gold and need to git gud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrHome.1920 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) From what I heard, minions are overpowered. I mean the best GW2 players use them in tournaments to kill other best GW2 players. They did even drop revenant , which is remarkable as best players usually play revenant. And since nades and flamethrower can kill minions effectively, they must be insanely overpowered. Edited October 9, 2021 by KrHome.1920 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugchriss.2046 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Bazsi.2734 said: Core engi beats "basically every other build"... lol. Who hurt you? I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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