lysico.1297 Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 So tired of the pew pew from shroud 1. Nerf it now. So OP 9 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianpiede.7294 Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 (edited) I love how there are a plethora of topics of topic about nerfing a noobstomper build, while there are so few about mechanist, wich is a broken af sidenoder if you know how to kite even a little Edited March 27, 2022 by gianpiede.7294 3 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 It's Necromancer. I doubt it'll get any relevant nerfs within the next years. 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 No necro or engi ever see any relevant nerfs...never happened since.....ever, the time when engi or necro was no meta has been at best 2xmonths years ago....sorry OP....you will wait years before anything substantial happens 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telgum.6071 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Arheundel.6451 said: No necro or engi ever see any relevant nerfs...never happened since.....ever, the time when engi or necro was no meta has been at best 2xmonths years ago....sorry OP....you will wait years before anything substantial happens Necromancer has received like two or three nerfs in a row in both core traits and most used skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Telgum.6071 said: Necromancer has received like two or three nerfs in a row in both core traits and most used skills. Idk why people keep pretending like Necro hasn't been hit repeatedly over the past couple of years just because harbinger is giving them a rough time. They do this with every class that has a specific build that's mildly annoying and then forget the class exists when it gets too difficult to play to show up in matches vs them. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikharzeeh.8016 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 hi, i'd like a harbinger buff please 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 10 hours ago, Azure The Heartless.3261 said: Idk why people keep pretending like Necro hasn't been hit repeatedly over the past couple of years just because harbinger is giving them a rough time. They do this with every class that has a specific build that's mildly annoying and then forget the class exists when it gets too difficult to play to show up in matches vs them. It's not that people ignore that Necromancer had been repeatedly slapped on the wrists with some minor nerfs. It's just that none of them were substantial enough to address the over-abundance of Necromancers in almost every match. And people want said over-abundance to be addressed properly. Although that situation has largely been circumvented by some players switching to new specializations (mostly Mechanist and Spectre from what I've seen). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianDK.8615 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 You do realize that harbingers have no defenses? They fold like a house of cards under pressure. And necros have taken an awful lot of nerfs over the yeats. The scourge is a shadow of what it used to be. 4 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayberz.5346 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 4 hours ago, LucianDK.8615 said: You do realize that harbingers have no defenses? They fold like a house of cards under pressure. And necros have taken an awful lot of nerfs over the yeats. The scourge is a shadow of what it used to be. The shadow of a colossal god is still pretty big 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPK.1796 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 It needs to be looked at for buff purposes 🤷♀️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bale.3851 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, VPK.1796 said: It needs to be looked at for buff purposes 🤷♀️ I agree. Thank you for strengthening necro society 😘. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernRedStar.3054 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, Azure The Heartless.3261 said: Idk why people keep pretending like Necro hasn't been hit repeatedly over the past couple of years just because harbinger is giving them a rough time. They do this with every class that has a specific build that's mildly annoying and then forget the class exists when it gets too difficult to play to show up in matches vs them. Necromancer gets love taps, because half the player base is living their easy mode power fantasy through the class, in both pve and pvp. Any other class would've been smacked down TWO pegs, AGES ago. Edited March 29, 2022 by NorthernRedStar.3054 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Meta.3158 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Nexromancer is easier to punish as you rise skill levels. By its core design, its hard to design a class with little to no active defenses to perform at a consistent rate across the rankings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAmputatoes.6031 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Well about a 33% power damage nerf to glass power harbinger. No more 9k crits on elixir toss or 15k Voracious Arc damage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JunkJunk.8971 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Elixir of Ambition: Reduced power coefficient from 1.5 to 0.9 in PvP and WvW. Devouring Cut: Reduced power coefficient from 1.0 to 0.85 in PvP and WvW. Voracious Arc: Reduced power coefficient from 1.4 to 1.0 in PvP and WvW. Nice! We have the nerf we were looking for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myror.7521 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Well at least elexir got a bit nerfed. And Hammer warrior see some buffs. So im Fine with this Patch i gues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inguz.6493 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 (edited) On 3/29/2022 at 11:04 AM, LucianDK.8615 said: You do realize that harbingers have no defenses? They fold like a house of cards under pressure. Hm. Not my experience playing Harbinger. But I suppose you're going full damage? I can see how that could be an issue. The only big two/three weak points that I've felt is susceptibility to stunlocks, limited mobility outside of the shroud charge or wurm teleport, and that at low health and life force at the same time with long CD on important utility skills it can be a struggle to be able to do much until I can catch up with team mates (but pistol 2 & 3 helps with this). Though I feel even sturdier as Harbinger than with the usual resilient builds Edited April 1, 2022 by Inguz.6493 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazsi.2734 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 On 3/27/2022 at 11:30 PM, lysico.1297 said: So tired of the pew pew from shroud 1. Nerf it now. So OP Harbringer was nerfed, check the patchnotes. The spec is basicly fine now. It's incredibly glassy, if you catch it without a stunbreak it dies to anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikharzeeh.8016 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 On 3/29/2022 at 3:51 PM, Kayberz.5346 said: Lul salty necro mains. By far the most delusional players, being professional victims despite remaining top tier in all game modes for the majority of this games lifespan, notably the later half. harbinger was before the nerfs the weakest necro specs.. nothing has changed, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaogin.2679 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 On 3/29/2022 at 7:51 AM, Kayberz.5346 said: Lul salty necro mains. By far the most delusional players, being professional victims despite remaining top tier in all game modes for the majority of this games lifespan, notably the later half. Did you mix up Necromancer with Guardian? You know, the class that has quite literally been meta in every single aspect of the game since creation? Because, as I'm sure you must know, Necromancers were garbage in PvE, Reapers were bottom of the barrel dps, and Scourges were mediocre up until the changes to torment. Things are looking good now, but I have found Guardian players to be way more delusional. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayberz.5346 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 36 minutes ago, kamikharzeeh.8016 said: harbinger was before the nerfs the weakest necro specs.. nothing has changed, lol Thats more telling of the state of necro balance in general 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayberz.5346 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, Shaogin.2679 said: Did you mix up Necromancer with Guardian? You know, the class that has quite literally been meta in every single aspect of the game since creation? Because, as I'm sure you must know, Necromancers were garbage in PvE, Reapers were bottom of the barrel dps, and Scourges were mediocre up until the changes to torment. Things are looking good now, but I have found Guardian players to be way more delusional. No doubt guardian fits the bill But i find guardian mains to be a lot less dishonest about how good or difficult their class is in general Is dps numbers the only thing you look at when appraising a classes place in the meta? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greedywholesome.9081 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 I dont play harbinger, I easily counter them with a mesmer spec. Anyway, the nerf was rather harsh and it would have been balanced if it got some sustain trade-off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 18 hours ago, Shaogin.2679 said: Did you mix up Necromancer with Guardian? You know, the class that has quite literally been meta in every single aspect of the game since creation? Because, as I'm sure you must know, Necromancers were garbage in PvE, Reapers were bottom of the barrel dps, and Scourges were mediocre up until the changes to torment. Things are looking good now, but I have found Guardian players to be way more delusional. Without any doubt...necro players are the foremost complainers with victim mentality. Everytime anybody tries to bring arguments against necro...the necro police comes running shouting :" cc and range them"...like other professions are immune to CC and range....-_- 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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