Player.2475 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 (edited) Situation 1: Big zerg right outside gate. You destroy siege, wipe the zerg right outside the gate and get 10+ bags and 2k wxp just for the amount of kills you have. Result: No defense participation. Go kitten yourself, you lazy, entitled piece of filth. Situation 2: An enemy noob player walks past guards without attacking them. You kill him when he's almost on the threshold of being outside of the tower range. Result: Amazing. Mission complete. This right here is why you're the best, boss. The one and only! Anet, please explain. Edit: Still true as of 29/08/2023 Edited August 29, 2023 by Player.2475 8 6 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HnRkLnXqZ.1870 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 About an hour ago we had a 15-20 minute constant onslaught in our EB keep. Enemy launched a full scale attack with a massive blob. We have killed tons of them, destroyed their siege and of course hold the kitten keep throughout all defense timers. No daily defender triggered. At this point, I'll just ignore that objective strictly. Everything else is a total waste of time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Hamster.2580 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Maybe there is a cooldown on defense participation where you can only get credit for it once per hour or something. It would prevent abuse of it at SMC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenesis.6389 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, A Hamster.2580 said: Maybe there is a cooldown on defense participation where you can only get credit for it once per hour or something. It would prevent abuse of it at SMC. If that was the case they wouldn't have needed to remove defense credit from repairs then. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pifil.5193 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 It's pretty bad, I hoped they'd have a fix for it with this round of reward changes but apparently not. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordHT.8297 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Right now, Tower Guard is the hardest title to get in WvW! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuickFox.3826 Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me Kill You.9035 Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) Because entitled PvE players were ruining the mode apparently, people whining about that kind of asked for this and I definitely put a lot of blame on them Edited June 26, 2023 by Me Kill You.9035 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arianth Moonlight.6453 Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 I defended 4 or 5 towers and get no reward/achievement despite killing several players/siege inside and outside of the tower. Then we went to cap a tower, killed like 2 players left inside and went afk for a few minutes. When I returned, I had the event reward and my weekly done. a.k.a. WTH?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daimon.9876 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Agreed! The way that "defenses" are registered (or rather, not registered) in WvW is entirely broken. Until it is repaired, may I humbly suggest removing all daily/weekly "defense" objectives from the game. I want my daily and weekly Wizard's Vault, and I don't want to have to play for 2 hours to get a single daily done. Pro tip for those having this problem: there's some kind of new exploit as of the most recent patches that allows people to portal directly to the Lord in any Garrison. If you just camp on the Lord and drop traps there, you'll get your "objective" and your "keep" defenses easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine.3896 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) There are many lag problems for me in WvW currently but I had a try tonight. We were defending Towers in EB constantly, I lost count after 12 defence events. All of them involved deaths INSIDE Tower. I had a grand total of 3/10 weekly Tower defence at the end, and the new weeklies? well that is currently sitting on 2/10. Thats right, its so messed up they can't even get their 2 weekly systems to agree on how many defence I have done. They knew they had broken defence a long time back yet they put it in the new weeklies, what a mess. A confused emote, are you out of your mind? entire thread agrees with me, yet within 2 minutes of posting this I get this? Edited August 26, 2023 by Clementine.3896 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikharzeeh.8016 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 14 hours ago, daimon.9876 said: Agreed! The way that "defenses" are registered (or rather, not registered) in WvW is entirely broken. Until it is repaired, may I humbly suggest removing all daily/weekly "defense" objectives from the game. I want my daily and weekly Wizard's Vault, and I don't want to have to play for 2 hours to get a single daily done. Pro tip for those having this problem: there's some kind of new exploit as of the most recent patches that allows people to portal directly to the Lord in any Garrison. If you just camp on the Lord and drop traps there, you'll get your "objective" and your "keep" defenses easily. bro u could always on many if not most keeps do a port like this with mesmer and thief... anet never fixed these things and they are not new the defense not triggering is oddly more common than it used to be yeah... maybe they did bind it accidently again to the wall-repair thing, killing a player often doesn't work or only randomly... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar Min.5834 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) They keep changing the defence mechanism rewards until they messed it up. And this is not game breaking, so good luck if there is ever a fix. Edited August 27, 2023 by Sugar Min.5834 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babana.7521 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 On 6/11/2023 at 8:22 PM, Player.2475 said: Situation 1: Big zerg right outside gate. You destroy siege, wipe the zerg right outside the gate and get 10+ bags and 2k wxp just for the amount of kills you have. Result: No defense participation. Go kitten yourself, you lazy, entitled piece of filth. Situation 2: An enemy noob player walks past guards without attacking them. You kill him when he's almost on the threshold of being outside of the tower range. Result: Silver defender bonus. Well done. You deserve a medal and loot. Anet, please explain. Video or it didn't happen, simply cannot believe this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoSundown.5419 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Something similar happened last night at Darkhaven Garrison. Logged on to do dailies, which included defense event and kill 3 players. Red and green both attacking. Red zerg gets in, starts running around taking down siege and farming bags. I drop unblockable marks repeatedly. As soon as they start dying, I get the 3 kills daily (took seconds). Lots of bags. No defense event credit. Event pops again. Now, the green zerg gets in. Rinse and repeat. Marks, kills,, bags, no defend event. Go to Red BL, defend Crankshaft. More marks, more bags, this time I get credit. Moral of the story. Participating in killing multiple enemy attackers inside the objective is not a reliable means of receiving defend credit. Maybe the damage threshold for defend credit and the one for kill/bag credit are not the same. Working as intended? If so, not sure why it's that way. It's frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkpile.7439 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Got 10 defense events done without even trying. Just killed enemies and stuff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrimm.5624 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 10 hours ago, Clementine.3896 said: There are many lag problems for me in WvW currently but I had a try tonight. We were defending Towers in EB constantly, I lost count after 12 defence events. All of them involved deaths INSIDE Tower. I had a grand total of 3/10 weekly Tower defence at the end, and the new weeklies? well that is currently sitting on 2/10. Thats right, its so messed up they can't even get their 2 weekly systems to agree on how many defence I have done. They knew they had broken defence a long time back yet they put it in the new weeklies, what a mess. A confused emote, are you out of your mind? entire thread agrees with me, yet within 2 minutes of posting this I get this? So far, it still seems to be you have to kill a player that was flagged as an active attacker. An active attacker was one that killed a defender, a guard/lord, a wall/door. Killing players just in the area, nothing. Hope that helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkpile.7439 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Maybe it's bugged. Like i escorted 6 dollys and were 0/10. Logged out and back in and it started count escorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos God.1639 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 no issues here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenDrake.8316 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Junkpile.7439 said: Maybe it's bugged. Like i escorted 6 dollys and were 0/10. Logged out and back in and it started count escorts. Did you actually get the event completion thing? Because you need to escort the dolly for some time before you get it. But I also wouldn't rule out bugs, we are talking about Anet after all. I just didn't have this problem personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetheros.4203 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) Yea it's pretty awful. I've played over 12 hours of WvW this past week and ended up with 8/10 on my WvW defense weekly, I really hope if nothing else they remove this as a weekly because its completely out of your control as a player. Between that obsidian sanctum, and the inability to skip or pick your dailies I switched to PvE only for now despite WvW being my primary game mode. Edited August 28, 2023 by Aetheros.4203 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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