Manifest.8417 Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, yann.1946 said: Do you just not care about the opinion of people who disagree. Because that is a dangerous mindset I have read their views up to point, I just feel they are not contributing anything further worthwhile. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costepj.5120 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 minute ago, Manifest.8417 said: I am not going to disclose personal financial specifics, sufficient to say in Canadian Funds, yes it is more expensive I think you've been scammed. https://account.arena.net/welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Manifest.8417 said: Most Players Don't "Source: I just made it up", right? There's more AA available than needed each "season", people are able to easly make their choice between buying lesser essence of gold and 30aa gold option each season. And, quick reminder, being a new player has nothing to do with it. Edited January 9 by Sobx.1758 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manifest.8417 Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 It is perfectly reasonably to suggest Paying Costumers not get shafted with the Gold Find costs 2 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manifest.8417 Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 Just now, costepj.5120 said: I think you've been scammed. https://account.arena.net/welcome No, it is Currency Exchange Rates which increase the cost 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costepj.5120 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Currency exchange rate on something that is now free? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manifest.8417 Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 Just now, costepj.5120 said: Currency exchange rate on something that is now free? Costs in relation to being a paying costumer of the game 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Manifest.8417 said: It is perfectly reasonably to suggest Paying Costumers not get shafted with the Gold Find costs Nobody is really "shafted" by gold find costs, paying or not. Your justification for the change (first being "new player!", second "paying customer!") shows lack of understanding of what you're trying to talk about. Edited January 9 by Sobx.1758 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yann.1946 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, Manifest.8417 said: I have read their views up to point, I just feel they are not contributing anything further worthwhile I do hope you actually take it to heart. The funny thing is that people are only disagreeing with the point where you ask for something which is pretty unfair. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manifest.8417 Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, yann.1946 said: I do hope you actually take it to heart. The funny thing is that people are only disagreeing with the point where you ask for something which is pretty unfair. Maybe you should share your viewpoint if the Cost of the Gold Find should be Cheaper, huh 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yann.1946 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 4 minutes ago, Manifest.8417 said: Maybe you should share your viewpoint if the Cost of the Gold Find should be Cheaper, huh The main problem I have with the gold find is that it's a newbtrap ATM. It does so little in the grand scheme of things (as far as I know). They probably should make the effect clearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Thread of the day. Well played OP 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Hayes.6890 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 This is a joke right? Give it to us for free if you want each rotation. I still wouldn't pick it. The difference after all these years of playing is negligible. Trust me, spend your AA on something useful. Even tier 5 crafting bags have more value than this item. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 3 hours ago, Farohna.6247 said: Considering how much AA gets added up, it should not be an issue every quarter to buy it, if you do choose. All you have to do is play. Considering it competes with at the very least 1g per 30 AA (uncapped) option, at the current price it will never be worth buying. Doesn't matter how much you play, and how much AAs you earn per season, buying it will actually be a gold loss, pretty much all of the time. Edited January 9 by Astralporing.1957 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 6 minutes ago, Astralporing.1957 said: Considering it competes with at the very least 1g per 30 AA (uncapped) option, at the current price it will never be worth buying. Doesn't matter how much you play, and how much AAs you earn per season, buying it will actually be a gold loss, pretty much all of the time. And as that wasn't an option before, at this point OP is complaining that he's given a choice between useless gold find bonus and... better rewards. If he wants to get it, he can get it. If it's not worth getting it, what is this complaint supposed to be? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 4 minutes ago, Sobx.1758 said: And as that wasn't an option before, at this point OP is complaining that he's given a choice between useless gold find bonus and... better rewards. If he wants to get it, he can get it. If it's not worth getting it, what is this complaint supposed to be? The complaint is not that gold find bonus is not worth it. The complaint is that it's not worth 1000 AA per +1% GF. WHich is completely true. It's not. At this price, it would be better if it was just plain removed from reward options. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Astralporing.1957 said: The complaint is not that gold find bonus is not worth it. The complaint is that it's not worth 1000 AA per +1% GF. WHich is completely true. It's not. At this price, it would be better if it was just plain removed from reward options. The thing is that it is not worth anything anyways. If you had 2% in the last system, but now you have 2% which you can instead -in effect- exchange for raw gold that's easly worth more than there's nothing to complain about. If it was 500 aa, it would still be a garbage option worth next to nothing. It would be just easier to "get out of the way" if that's what someone aims at. That has nothing to do with losing value "because new system", "because new player" or w/e else he tried to claim, let alone with "catching up with veterans". He's not catching up to anyone by getting x% gold find as it works now anyways -in this system or previous one, all the same. Edited January 9 by Sobx.1758 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya.9075 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Ah, yes. I too would be looking forward to the day in like 4 years from now when I can gain 3 coppers from the centaur I killed instead of 2 if I chose to waste aa on this beautiful item of pure wealth!! Those filthy veterans!! Shakes fist 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuavePuppy.2809 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 This thread is bait, let it die 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surelia.2651 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Here's a better idea OP: why don't you just ask Anet to create a WV item purchasable for 10 AA that will give you with the click of one button 42kAP, all masteries unlocked, all gens of legendary weapons unlocked, all weights of leggy armour, all titles, all craft masteries unlocked, all ascended foods, all possible skins, etc., etc., that "all veterans" have? How about that? because at the rate these threads are going lately, it sounds like that would be the only thing to appease those of your ilk... good grief. Entitle much? 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manifest.8417 Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 1 minute ago, Surelia.2651 said: Here's a better idea OP: why don't you just ask Anet to create a WV item purchasable for 10 AA that will give you with the click of one button 42kAP, all masteries unlocked, all gens of legendary weapons unlocked, all weights of leggy armour, all titles, all craft masteries unlocked, all ascended foods, all possible skins, etc., etc., that "all veterans" have? How about that? because at the rate these threads are going lately, it sounds like that would be the only thing to appease those of your ilk... good grief. Entitle much? Its about what shouldn't be closed off for the player, I don't mind working for things or quite honestly even paying for them. I have actually watched the video on Arenanet explaining how their microtransaction system works. The new system makes obtaining something that should be available to the player counterproductive to obtain due to overwhelming costs. The New Daily Login System is designed Strictly with the purpose of reducing the amount of gold in the game by providing the players incentives not to obtaining anything that would produce gold, This way players are more likely to make purchases in the gem store. I hate the new Daily System for this reason. This game is already expensive enough with my current purchases. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 33 minutes ago, Sobx.1758 said: The thing is that it is not worth anything anyways. If you had 2% in the last system, but now you have 2% which you can instead -in effect- exchange for raw gold that's easly worth more than there's nothing to complain about. If it was 500 aa, it would still be a garbage option worth next to nothing. It would be just easier to "get out of the way" if that's what someone aims at. That has nothing to do with losing value "because new system", "because new player" or w/e else he tried to claim, let alone with "catching up with veterans". He's not catching up to anyone by getting x% gold find as it works now anyways -in this system or previous one, all the same. The one you buy in wv is 1% tho so it is in fact even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 28 minutes ago, Sobx.1758 said: The thing is that it is not worth anything anyways. If you had 2% in the last system, but now you have 2% which you can instead -in effect- exchange for raw gold that's easly worth more than there's nothing to complain about. If it was 500 aa, it would still be a garbage option worth next to nothing. It would be just easier to "get out of the way" if that's what someone aims at. That has nothing to do with losing value "because new system", "because new player" or w/e else he tried to claim, let alone with "catching up with veterans". He's not catching up to anyone by getting x% gold find as it works now anyways -in this system or previous one, all the same. Yes, you are right, it would be a garbage option even at half that pricing. It might be bad even at 100 AAs, tbh. Sure, that has nothing to do with "catching up with veterans", "because new players" or anything, but that hardly changes the main point - the fact that it is (as you admit) a garbage at the current pricing. And yes, it did lose value "because new system", because 2% every 60 days at 2000 AA has definitely far, far less value than 2% every 30 days for free. It chas changed from something with positive value (even if not too great individually) into someting with negative one. That looks like a definite loss of value to me. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Astralporing.1957 said: And yes, it did lose value "because new system", because 2% every 60 days at 2000 AA has definitely far, far less value than 2% every 30 days for free. It chas changed from something with positive value (even if not too great individually) into someting with negative one. That looks like a definite loss of value to me. Considering you were ingame every day. And here we can go towards concept of "log in rewards" which imo are dumb and shouldn't be a thing in the first place. Considering you're actually playing the game, even a bit, you get better value now than you did before. Because you can completely skip worthless gold find % and just go for the raw gold right away which is something that actually can make a difference for a player needing gold. Unlike that 2% gold find, as far as I'm aware. Edited January 9 by Sobx.1758 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 3 minutes ago, Sobx.1758 said: Considering you were ingame every day. And here we can go towards concept of "log in rewards" which imo are dumb and shouldn't be a thing in the first place. Considering you're actually playing the game, even a bit, you get better value now than you did before. Because you can completely skip worthless gold find % and just go for the raw gold right away which is something that actually can make a difference for a player needing gold. Unlike that 2% gold find, as far as I'm aware. ...seems to me like you (again) agree with the main point of this thread - that being the fact that +2% GF is definitely not worth 2000 AA. Thank you. Now, the question is that if you do, in fact, agree with the main premise of this thread, why do you try so hard to derail it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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