Forum Suggestion: please display hours played

[Ashen.2907]

@"OpiumRagDoll.1086" said:At this point, I am pretty sure TS is using the forum participants as part of some social experiment.

With reference to his recent 2 threads that were closed and the overwhelming unpopularity of his stated views when you look at the comments by others in those threads and this topic as well:His threads have a similar theme, a very extreme opinionated stance that is very easily and logically countered when you consider the social or even technical aspects of GW2. This breeds so many comments from forum go-ers who will gladly state their piece because it is easy to fill in the blank and counter his view.

95% of the 40 odd replies of this thread have been negative to his suggestion. It is going the exact same way as his previous threads.

We are getting played by a very talented troll.

Not sure I agree with the very talented part. Dedicated perhaps.

[Jumpin Lumpix.6108]

@"HnRkLnXqZ.1870" said:If you really want to talk about this topic, fine for me. ^^

Once in a few weeks I encounter some suspicious threads and posts on these forums. It is stuff that looks disturbing to me and I cannot decide whether the post was meant in an ironic way, if there is hatred or disdain as a motive or if it is just a troll. So I take a "look":

At first I just click on the name and get directly forwarded to the persons Account Page. It is a nice little overview of many different things. To make sure I do not miss anything of importance, I open this page in all four language setups, with different tabs. By that time I already know if the person in question is german, french, spanish or none of the three.

Before I start looking for details I quickly scan the badges and the stars. Is there any silver, gold or platinum? If so, lightbulb, thump up or both? I also take a quick look on the amount of comments and discussions by that person and make an easy ratio of: lightbulb+thump / comment+topic. If the ratio is almost 1 and there are silver badges or higher I can almost stop my research and assume some kind of sarcasm or irony in the post that irritated me.

If the ratio does not give me a real clue, I look on the ratio: comments / topics. It should be > 1.

Next up is a quick look on the discussion page(s), any topics closed? Closed means a moderator had to close it. If there is a topic like that, I check the title. In most cases topics are just closed because the discussions went off-topic. How many comments did the topic collect before it was closed? The more it has, the higher the chance it just went off-topic. It is also nice to see if there is a favorite forum-section this person uses to write topics.

Now I take a look on the Helpful marks, clicking on them opens a page with a list of all comments by this person which received a Helpful mark. Any scores higher than 3 per comment? Section of the forum? Any common topic titles? (e. g. balance complaints, suggestions, build-ideas, funny posts)

The Helpful marks are interesting, but not very useful in most cases. The Thumps up are more useful. I just scan through the forum-sections of the thumbs up? What class does he play? What game-mode does he prefer? General attitude? (passive, aggressive, cheerful, helpful, ... etc.) If there are any comments with > 5 Thumps up, I take a look into the comments to see what caused that wide agreement (complaint, suggestion, discussion & personal opinion, etc.).

By then I also have a quick rundown about this persons activity: was there a gap/break? since when are the records? If it does not take too much effort, what was his first post/discussion? That can be pretty interesting, some people join the forums due to frustration about a certain update.

If all that information still is not enough to determine this persons true nature, I log into the game and /friend him. Then I quickly return to server selection and check which server got a +1. Then I go to the Leaderboards, wait for the next tick and I have this persons AP count and when he was last online ingame + the server.

Conclusion: You do not want more transparency on this board. We already have access to a large variety of data about each other, there is no need for more. If you feel you are not accepted as the person you believe you truly are, it is mostly because of how you write your comments. Once in a while we have a few posters on these boards who feel the urge to explain us in huge paragraphs how long they played GW1 and GW2, how many classes they actively played and how much time they spent in sPvP and raiding. That is all nice stuff. But if you have something to say, just say it. If you need to build up special reputation for your post, do not do it at all. We are all human beings and we all can fail. We should never claim to know things better or "the truth." We are part of this community, each of us has his own opinions, ideas and beliefs. We respect each other. Certain prejudices and first impressions cannot be turned off, again we are just humans.

So you use the convoluted and time consuming process of checking how many helpful badges and likes a person has received from having "good forum" conduct all of which has nothing to do with the games mechanics or how experienced they are with the actual game. You then take the lengthy process of checking their individual comments and threads to determine a poster's relevance.

Sorry but displaying in game hours played and achievement points at a glance, shortcuts 99% of the time spent doing what you suggest and is way more relevant then forum badges or likes from other users.

You could post nothing but positive comments on here that arent relative to the game that everyone likes and receive a ton of helpful points and likes, and yet you could know absolutely nothing about the game.

I'd trust in game hours or achievement points over that.

[Ashen.2907]

Yep, trust time spent ERPing in DR, or killing ambients over the actual merit of an idea. Makes perfect sense.

[Jumpin Lumpix.6108]

@"Ashen.2907" said:Yep, trust time spent ERPing in DR, or killing ambients over the actual merit of an idea. Makes perfect sense.

Sorry if you have over 10k hours a lot of that isnt going to be in DR not with that sheer volume of playtime. You would assume a lot of it is playing the game and even If the majority is spent in DR, its a person who has 10k hours in gw2, in game doing something, which I would trust much more over a person who just started.

Your point is moot if the achievement points are also displayed, that is proof of "playing the game" and not just standing in DR.

[Henry.5713]

@Eater of Peeps.9062 said:

@Henry.5713 said:Outrageous ideas do not suddenly become any less outrageous or impractical when stated by a veteran. There might also be the case of certain players having gained a certain reputation or post history over the years. Which might make other people take everything they have to say a little less seriously. This is not aimed at you of course and only a guess on my part why people might react a certain way.

Actually, yes they do. People with long histories of performance have more gravitas and are less likely to trivialize or showboat like those who are more new to an experience. Also, those with more skill are usually more honest in their opinions as they have little need to prove their value. That's why people listen to 4 star generals ...

You missed the point entirely. Nobody was denying the more accurate views of specialists or veterans in their specific fields.However, pigs won't be able to fly no matter if this is stated by a preschooler or a famous scientist. The fact that a scientist is far less likely to claim such nonsense is beside the point. It would still be utter nonsense.

[Cyninja.2954]

@Jumpin Lumpix.6108 said:

@HnRkLnXqZ.1870 said:If you really want to talk about this topic, fine for me. ^^

Once in a few weeks I encounter some suspicious threads and posts on these forums. It is stuff that looks disturbing to me and I cannot decide whether the post was meant in an ironic way, if there is hatred or disdain as a motive or if it is just a troll. So I take a "look":

At first I just click on the name and get directly forwarded to the persons Account Page. It is a nice little overview of many different things. To make sure I do not miss anything of importance, I open this page in all four language setups, with different tabs. By that time I already know if the person in question is german, french, spanish or none of the three.

Before I start looking for details I quickly scan the badges and the stars. Is there any silver, gold or platinum? If so, lightbulb, thump up or both? I also take a quick look on the amount of comments and discussions by that person and make an easy ratio of: lightbulb+thump / comment+topic. If the ratio is almost 1 and there are silver badges or higher I can almost stop my research and assume some kind of sarcasm or irony in the post that irritated me.

If the ratio does not give me a real clue, I look on the ratio: comments / topics. It should be > 1.

Next up is a quick look on the discussion page(s), any topics closed? Closed means a moderator had to close it. If there is a topic like that, I check the title. In most cases topics are just closed because the discussions went off-topic. How many comments did the topic collect before it was closed? The more it has, the higher the chance it just went off-topic. It is also nice to see if there is a favorite forum-section this person uses to write topics.

Now I take a look on the Helpful marks, clicking on them opens a page with a list of all comments by this person which received a Helpful mark. Any scores higher than 3 per comment? Section of the forum? Any common topic titles? (e. g. balance complaints, suggestions, build-ideas, funny posts)

The Helpful marks are interesting, but not very useful in most cases. The Thumps up are more useful. I just scan through the forum-sections of the thumbs up? What class does he play? What game-mode does he prefer? General attitude? (passive, aggressive, cheerful, helpful, ... etc.) If there are any comments with > 5 Thumps up, I take a look into the comments to see what caused that wide agreement (complaint, suggestion, discussion & personal opinion, etc.).

By then I also have a quick rundown about this persons activity: was there a gap/break? since when are the records? If it does not take too much effort, what was his first post/discussion? That can be pretty interesting, some people join the forums due to frustration about a certain update.

If all that information still is not enough to determine this persons true nature, I log into the game and /friend him. Then I quickly return to server selection and check which server got a +1. Then I go to the Leaderboards, wait for the next tick and I have this persons AP count and when he was last online ingame + the server.

Conclusion: You do not want more transparency on this board. We already have access to a large variety of data about each other, there is no need for more. If you feel you are not accepted as the person you believe you truly are, it is mostly because of how you write your comments. Once in a while we have a few posters on these boards who feel the urge to explain us in huge paragraphs how long they played GW1 and GW2, how many classes they actively played and how much time they spent in sPvP and raiding. That is all nice stuff. But if you have something to say, just say it. If you need to build up special reputation for your post, do not do it at all. We are all human beings and we all can fail. We should never claim to know things better or "the truth." We are part of this community, each of us has his own opinions, ideas and beliefs. We respect each other. Certain prejudices and first impressions cannot be turned off, again we are just humans.

So you use the convoluted and time consuming process of checking how many helpful badges and likes a person has received from having "good forum" conduct all of which has nothing to do with the games mechanics or how experienced they are with the actual game. You then take the lengthy process of checking their individual comments and threads to determine a poster's relevance.

You missed the point. The convoluted part is not what @HnRkLnXqZ.1870 was getting at. He was literally showing how you could validate a person's opinion or post without giving even more access to personal information.

Sorry but displaying in game hours played and achievement points at a glance, shortcuts 99% of the time spent doing what you suggest and is way more relevant then forum badges or likes from other users.

Please add in your opinion since that's all this is is. A vast majority of people seem to disagree.

You could post nothing but positive comments on here that arent relative to the game that everyone likes and receive a ton of helpful points and likes, and yet you could know absolutely nothing about the game.

Yes and at the very bare minimum the person would have contributed in a positive way to the forums. That alone shows their positive influence on the forums.

[Gehenna.3625]

@"Jumpin Lumpix.6108" said:A lot of my friends think this is a great idea and they have well over 10k hrs in both gw1 and gw2. Would be nice to talk to people who play the game on the same level.

Except time played isn't a true indicator of on which level someone plays the game. Do you think that a casual player who's played over 10k hours plays on the same level as a person who is very hardcore and does a lot of T4 fractals and raids? And I put over 7k hours in GW1 but not nearly as much in GW2 and I play it more casually. Am I on the same "level" as you?

This is the official forum for the game. It's there for all players. If you want a more exclusive group, make a discord or a separate forum for it. You'll find out soon enough that people with 10k+ hours in both games are not as like-minded as you might think.

[Fenom.9457]

I think it’d be neat, but may cause problems for new players

[Astralporing.1957]

@Jumpin Lumpix.6108 said:This suggestion weeds out those who are too afraid to post on their main accounts, while also at a glance add weight to whom is speaking. I put way more weight behind someone with 10k hours played vs under 100. It seems justified to me.While i prefer to argue with posts, not posters. It doesn't really matter to me who is posting (although i do admit that knowing the player's posting history may color my initial reaction) . What ultimately matters is what is written, and how it is written.

It can also be a representation of dedication to gw2 as well as skill, as both of those increase incrementally with hours played.Trust me, no amout of "dedication to gw2" is going to make me treat someone's post better than it should deserve from its arguments alone. On the contrary, my response might be worse, because new players not knowing things i'd consider basic is understandable, while veterans do not have that excuse.

At a glance In game hours is easy to implement and speaks for itself.It may speak for itself, but it also doesn't tell us anything useful.

@Jumpin Lumpix.6108 said:

@"Ashen.2907" said:Yep, trust time spent ERPing in DR, or killing ambients over the actual merit of an idea. Makes perfect sense.

Sorry if you have over 10k hours a lot of that isnt going to be in DR not with that sheer volume of playtime. You would assume a lot of it is playing the game and even If the majority is spent in DR, its a person who has 10k hours in gw2, in game doing something, which I would trust much more over a person who just started.And yet i see quite a number of veterans in this very thread, and their "veteran status" does absolutely nothing for you to treat what they say any more seriously. In this thread by your own behaviour you have basically disproved your very own premise.

Veterancy doesn't really mean anything to you. You just want some sort of imaginary numbers in order for other people to treat your posts more seriously. Hint: based on your past posting history, that's very unlikely to happen.

I will still try to read all your future suggestions with open mind, though.

[hugo.4705]

Bad Idea, they are more important numbers than played hours. You can have speedrunners doing a same amount of achievs than someone else but in a shorter time lapse. Ap isn't a proof either since some achievments require almost nothing kinda given and some other are difficult to earn. Also let's say okay for played hours: you have another issue: Some may have done Istan farm 7 hours permit the 10, and other have done raids,fractals, etc..

More interesting numbers would be number of dungeon done with how many paths done in each, personnal fractal level, how many raid completed, and eventually for the professions threads which classes/specs the poster already played. After that.. completed story episodes to check if it's a real feedback or not?

But I'm against the idea of everyone is a cop and want to investigate on other profiles, it isn't a good thing. It's in the same optic of those DPS meter, I tolerate them but I'm not fan of using them.

So adding those stats would make a giant cleavage within the forum, and we don't need it in my honest opinion.

[TheGrimm.5624]

@Stand The Wall.6987 said:i don't want ppl to know ima no lifer tho

ikr, times I posted account age got back from people don't be an AFK farmer. AFK farming, I don't have time for that. Not to mention I have got dailies in the other games to do and its my turn in Civ6. lolz.

[TheGrimm.5624]

Plus you might have a new gamer in this game coming from another and they see something that's a great idea that a vet might not have seen since they were so immersed here and couldn't see it being any other way since that's how they learned the game and its always been that way. Games take concepts from each other all the time and some of those moshings are awesome (some are terrible too). But image GW2's dodging mechanic with ESO's active blocking mechanic. That would be awesome.

[Ashen.2907]

@Jumpin Lumpix.6108 said:

@"Ashen.2907" said:Yep, trust time spent ERPing in DR, or killing ambients over the actual merit of an idea. Makes perfect sense.

Sorry if you have over 10k hours a lot of that isnt going to be in DR not with that sheer volume of playtime. You would assume a lot of it is playing the game and even If the majority is spent in DR, its a person who has 10k hours in gw2, in game doing something, which I would trust much more over a person who just started.

Your point is moot if the achievement points are also displayed, that is proof of "playing the game" and not just standing in DR.

My point included a reference to the ability to get AP without becoming an expert on the game.

Again, the merits (or lack of same) of a comment or idea are all that is relevant.

[Loosmaster.8263]

@Jumpin Lumpix.6108 said:

@"HnRkLnXqZ.1870" said:If you really want to talk about this topic, fine for me. ^^

Once in a few weeks I encounter some suspicious threads and posts on these forums. It is stuff that looks disturbing to me and I cannot decide whether the post was meant in an ironic way, if there is hatred or disdain as a motive or if it is just a troll. So I take a "look":

At first I just click on the name and get directly forwarded to the persons Account Page. It is a nice little overview of many different things. To make sure I do not miss anything of importance, I open this page in all four language setups, with different tabs. By that time I already know if the person in question is german, french, spanish or none of the three.

Before I start looking for details I quickly scan the badges and the stars. Is there any silver, gold or platinum? If so, lightbulb, thump up or both? I also take a quick look on the amount of comments and discussions by that person and make an easy ratio of: lightbulb+thump / comment+topic. If the ratio is almost 1 and there are silver badges or higher I can almost stop my research and assume some kind of sarcasm or irony in the post that irritated me.

If the ratio does not give me a real clue, I look on the ratio: comments / topics. It should be > 1.

Next up is a quick look on the discussion page(s), any topics closed? Closed means a moderator had to close it. If there is a topic like that, I check the title. In most cases topics are just closed because the discussions went off-topic. How many comments did the topic collect before it was closed? The more it has, the higher the chance it just went off-topic. It is also nice to see if there is a favorite forum-section this person uses to write topics.

Now I take a look on the Helpful marks, clicking on them opens a page with a list of all comments by this person which received a Helpful mark. Any scores higher than 3 per comment? Section of the forum? Any common topic titles? (e. g. balance complaints, suggestions, build-ideas, funny posts)

The Helpful marks are interesting, but not very useful in most cases. The Thumps up are more useful. I just scan through the forum-sections of the thumbs up? What class does he play? What game-mode does he prefer? General attitude? (passive, aggressive, cheerful, helpful, ... etc.) If there are any comments with > 5 Thumps up, I take a look into the comments to see what caused that wide agreement (complaint, suggestion, discussion & personal opinion, etc.).

By then I also have a quick rundown about this persons activity: was there a gap/break? since when are the records? If it does not take too much effort, what was his first post/discussion? That can be pretty interesting, some people join the forums due to frustration about a certain update.

If all that information still is not enough to determine this persons true nature, I log into the game and /friend him. Then I quickly return to server selection and check which server got a +1. Then I go to the Leaderboards, wait for the next tick and I have this persons AP count and when he was last online ingame + the server.

Conclusion: You do not want more transparency on this board. We already have access to a large variety of data about each other, there is no need for more. If you feel you are not accepted as the person you believe you truly are, it is mostly because of how you write your comments. Once in a while we have a few posters on these boards who feel the urge to explain us in huge paragraphs how long they played GW1 and GW2, how many classes they actively played and how much time they spent in sPvP and raiding. That is all nice stuff. But if you have something to say, just say it. If you need to build up special reputation for your post, do not do it at all. We are all human beings and we all can fail. We should never claim to know things better or "the truth." We are part of this community, each of us has his own opinions, ideas and beliefs. We respect each other. Certain prejudices and first impressions cannot be turned off, again we are just humans.

So you use the convoluted and time consuming process of checking how many helpful badges and likes a person has received from having "good forum" conduct all of which has nothing to do with the games mechanics or how experienced they are with the actual game. You then take the lengthy process of checking their individual comments and threads to determine a poster's relevance.

Sorry but displaying in game hours played and achievement points at a glance, shortcuts 99% of the time spent doing what you suggest and is way more relevant then forum badges or likes from other users.

You could post nothing but positive comments on here that arent relative to the game that everyone likes and receive a ton of helpful points and likes, and yet you could know absolutely nothing about the game.

I'd trust in game hours or achievement points over that.

I have over 23k AP's and over 10k playing hours across my characters. I have no clue to about 25% of the games content. What's your point?

[Illconceived Was Na.9781]

@Astralporing.1957 said:I will still try to read all your future suggestions with open mind, though.And isn't that really all any of us should be doing with anyone's posts?

[Trise.2865]

As someone with over 50k hours across both games: this is a dumb idea. All it does is create yet another false sense of superiority; reasons to ignore or dismiss one person over another that have nothing to do with their statements.

[Astralporing.1957]

@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

@Astralporing.1957 said:I will still try to read all your future suggestions with open mind, though.And isn't that really all any of us should be doing with anyone's posts?Definitely.

[Ashen.2907]

@Trise.2865 said:As someone with over 50k hours across both games: this is a dumb idea. All it does is create yet another false sense of superiority; reasons to ignore or dismiss one person over another that have nothing to do with their statements.

More than 10 hours per day, seven days per week, 365 days per year, for thirteen and a half years!?!? WoW!

[Jumpin Lumpix.6108]

@Loosmaster.8263 said:

@Jumpin Lumpix.6108 said:

@"HnRkLnXqZ.1870" said:If you really want to talk about this topic, fine for me. ^^

Once in a few weeks I encounter some suspicious threads and posts on these forums. It is stuff that looks disturbing to me and I cannot decide whether the post was meant in an ironic way, if there is hatred or disdain as a motive or if it is just a troll. So I take a "look":

At first I just click on the name and get directly forwarded to the persons Account Page. It is a nice little overview of many different things. To make sure I do not miss anything of importance, I open this page in all four language setups, with different tabs. By that time I already know if the person in question is german, french, spanish or none of the three.

Before I start looking for details I quickly scan the badges and the stars. Is there any silver, gold or platinum? If so, lightbulb, thump up or both? I also take a quick look on the amount of comments and discussions by that person and make an easy ratio of: lightbulb+thump / comment+topic. If the ratio is almost 1 and there are silver badges or higher I can almost stop my research and assume some kind of sarcasm or irony in the post that irritated me.

If the ratio does not give me a real clue, I look on the ratio: comments / topics. It should be > 1.

Next up is a quick look on the discussion page(s), any topics closed? Closed means a moderator had to close it. If there is a topic like that, I check the title. In most cases topics are just closed because the discussions went off-topic. How many comments did the topic collect before it was closed? The more it has, the higher the chance it just went off-topic. It is also nice to see if there is a favorite forum-section this person uses to write topics.

Now I take a look on the Helpful marks, clicking on them opens a page with a list of all comments by this person which received a Helpful mark. Any scores higher than 3 per comment? Section of the forum? Any common topic titles? (e. g. balance complaints, suggestions, build-ideas, funny posts)

The Helpful marks are interesting, but not very useful in most cases. The Thumps up are more useful. I just scan through the forum-sections of the thumbs up? What class does he play? What game-mode does he prefer? General attitude? (passive, aggressive, cheerful, helpful, ... etc.) If there are any comments with > 5 Thumps up, I take a look into the comments to see what caused that wide agreement (complaint, suggestion, discussion & personal opinion, etc.).

By then I also have a quick rundown about this persons activity: was there a gap/break? since when are the records? If it does not take too much effort, what was his first post/discussion? That can be pretty interesting, some people join the forums due to frustration about a certain update.

If all that information still is not enough to determine this persons true nature, I log into the game and /friend him. Then I quickly return to server selection and check which server got a +1. Then I go to the Leaderboards, wait for the next tick and I have this persons AP count and when he was last online ingame + the server.

Conclusion: You do not want more transparency on this board. We already have access to a large variety of data about each other, there is no need for more. If you feel you are not accepted as the person you believe you truly are, it is mostly because of how you write your comments. Once in a while we have a few posters on these boards who feel the urge to explain us in huge paragraphs how long they played GW1 and GW2, how many classes they actively played and how much time they spent in sPvP and raiding. That is all nice stuff. But if you have something to say, just say it. If you need to build up special reputation for your post, do not do it at all. We are all human beings and we all can fail. We should never claim to know things better or "the truth." We are part of this community, each of us has his own opinions, ideas and beliefs. We respect each other. Certain prejudices and first impressions cannot be turned off, again we are just humans.

So you use the convoluted and time consuming process of checking how many helpful badges and likes a person has received from having "good forum" conduct all of which has nothing to do with the games mechanics or how experienced they are with the actual game. You then take the lengthy process of checking their individual comments and threads to determine a poster's relevance.

Sorry but displaying in game hours played and achievement points at a glance, shortcuts 99% of the time spent doing what you suggest and is way more relevant then forum badges or likes from other users.

You could post nothing but positive comments on here that arent relative to the game that everyone likes and receive a ton of helpful points and likes, and yet you could know absolutely nothing about the game.

I'd trust in game hours or achievement points over that.

I have over 23k AP's and over 10k playing hours across my characters. I have no clue to about 25% of the games content. What's your point?

Well you know 75% more then someone with low play hours who has a large opinion, so I'll take it. And I would imagine that you would only post on sections of the forum you know about. See how that works.

[Jumpin Lumpix.6108]

I like how if you scroll through the comments everyone is just echoing each others comments and dishing out one liners, and are recieving tons of thumbs up and helpful comment points, which might I add is the system that everyone relies upon on the forums in order to "assess" the in game knowledge of a poster. This proves that you can rack up a bunch of likes and helpfuls by posting things that dont really translate into knowledge of the game.

I'd much rather rely on in game hours played and achievement point total at a glance.

[IndigoSundown.5419]

Deciding that what another poster posts is worthwhile based on time in the game is not a good idea. Whether a poster has 30K hours or 30 is irrelevant if their post is deficient for any reason. So, anyone who wants to evaluate a post would still need to read what's said. Knowing the number of hours someone has played could generate a bias in some readers towards or against a post before reading the content. The OP's idea would not serve discourse, only his agenda -- whether that's to forestall others suggesting he is new, or whether he would use the information to try to win an argument on the internet.

I assume the OP has played for vastly more hours than I have. That doesn't change my evaluation of his suggestion. It's not needed. It's not a good idea.

Oh, it is not true that thumbs up/helpful is the system that, "everyone relies upon on the forums in order to 'assess' the in game knowledge of a poster." I certainly don't. Instead, I use these features as they were designed to be used -- to show my approval of that post. That's how I read them, also.

[Illconceived Was Na.9781]

@"Jumpin Lumpix.6108" said:I like how if you scroll through the comments everyone is just echoing each others comments and dishing out one liners, and are recieving tons of thumbs up and helpful comment points, which might I add is the system that everyone relies upon on the forums in order to "assess" the in game knowledge of a poster.

You might add it, but it wouldn't make it true. I don't care if someone has 10k likes or not, if they work for ANet or not, I'm still going to consider their ideas based on the strength of the argument. (The main thing that I'll grant ANet over the rest of us is that they have data that we don't, including how & why different aspects of the game got made.)

This proves that you can rack up a bunch of likes and helpfuls by posting things that dont really translate into knowledge of the game.Which is moot, as noted above.

I'd much rather rely on in game hours played and achievement point total at a glance.That much has been gathered.

[Cyninja.2954]

@Jumpin Lumpix.6108 said:I like how if you scroll through the comments everyone is just echoing each others comments and dishing out one liners, and are recieving tons of thumbs up and helpful comment points, which might I add is the system that everyone relies upon on the forums in order to "assess" the in game knowledge of a poster. This proves that you can rack up a bunch of likes and helpfuls by posting things that dont really translate into knowledge of the game.

Or, an outlandish idea: maybe people agree on each others position, some of which are rational, logical and with merit. You have not disproved ANY counter argument in this thread so far, so to claim they are a representation of lack of game knowledge colors you heavily biased.

But you are right, to you with a different position and as only echo of your position, this must seem unimaginable that a vast majority of people simply disagree with you.

@Jumpin Lumpix.6108 said:

I'd much rather rely on in game hours played and achievement point total at a glance.

To each their own.

As stated by @Astralporing.1957 earlier, the seniority of most other posters has not in any way affected your approach to what they are saying. Doesn't really prove that seniority or play time translates into good ideas or experience.

[Danikat.8537]

Another way to look at it is that going by the responses in this topic even if the forum did show hours played it would not produce the result you're hoping for, because the majority of people who have replied don't agree that hours logged in equates to seniority or experience or whatever you want to call it. Regardless of what you think it shows if other people don't interpret it that way it's not going to work because it's their interpretation you're relying on.

It's like avatars. Many people have a specific reason they picked their avatar, but because it's just an out of context picture there's no guarantee anyone else will interpret it the same way so that meaning could easily be lost. Adding the hours you've played does show you're not new, but it does not prove you know what you're talking about. The only way to prove that is to write posts which are accurate and/or informative.

[DerJoker.9081]

No, cause I don't want anyone to know how I waste my life on gw2 :D