Kain Francois.4328 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Simply put, the Revenant gets a weapon to fill a niche the class doesn’t have. Compare with what the class currently has. See my Tl;dr at the bottom. ✔️ Sword/sword: Fast, power dps✔️ Hammer: Slow, long range damage✔️ Staff: Healing/supportive set✔️ Shield: Useless outside Deimos✔️Mace/axe: Condi melee dps set✔️Shortbow: Mid-range condi dps set good on large hitboxesWe are missing a single-handed ranged condi weapon with a focus on burst damage, contrasting Mace as a steady dps Condi weapon. We are also missing a condi offhand to properly replace Axe from its current hybrid role.Compare with the Rev’s current options. Excluding them based on what we currently have, the next elite specialization won't be supportive or hybrid support since we already got Herald and Renegade for both defensive and offensive support. Glint is power, while Kalla is hybrid with offensive support via Soulcleave Summit. It will thus' have to be condi spec.❌MH axe: Will it be condi? We have mainhand mace for that. And power? Already got MH sword.❌Focus: Defensive niche filled by shield, is going to compete with both Sword and Axe offhand. ❌Warhorn: Glint and Renegade are both supportive specs.❌Torch: Possible option, but needs a new mainhand❌Offhand mace: Can't be because it needs to include a new mainhand❌Longbow: Already have shortboow on renegade as bow nich❌Rifle: Hammer fills long range niche for power. Does not match Revenant theme.❌Pistol: See above.❌Scepter: Lacks synergy with Revenant offhand, needs a new offhand. ❌Greatsword: Power based spec, which Glint already fulfills. ✔️Daggers: Throwing daggers MH for long range condi dps, OH daggers for burst condi to replace our hybrid dps axe.Tl;dr: Next elite spec will be a selfish condi based spec, because both Herald and Renegade are support the former being Power, and the latter Hybrid. Revenant lacks a ranged condi MH and a condi OH, dual daggers is the only viable option.Keep this thread in mind. See you 1 year from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric.4713 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Was this really necessary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulvar.1239 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Melee power : sword/swordMelee condi : mace/axeRange power : hammerRange condi : shortbowHealing : staffGlint & Renegade are more about support rather than damageNext elite specialization will not be about supporting the team but being supported by a team / selfish.The more likely weapons IMO: Longbow, Greatsword, Scepter, Daggers, Pistols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianTheAngelic.7054 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 10/10 good roast thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 My be a joke thread but I still prefer Dual Daggers being a stock ranged support weapon that channels damage at target like mesmer greatsword and heals a percentage of the damage, making it a great power and support weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 @Kulvar.1239 said:Melee power : sword/swordMelee condi : mace/axeRange power : hammerRange condi : shortbowHealing : staffGlint & Renegade are more about support rather than damageNext elite specialization will not be about supporting the team but being supported by a team / selfish.The more likely weapons IMO: Longbow, Greatsword, Scepter, Daggers, PistolsI prefer Greataxe if they can pull that off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulvar.1239 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 @Knighthonor.4061 said:I prefer Greataxe if they can pull that offIMO, Greataxe would fit as alternate Greatsword skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkantos.7460 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 there is no NO NEXT WEAPON because there is NO NEXT EXPANSION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raknar.4735 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Well, Glint isn't "power-based", it's concentration based. Boonshare specc. But this thread looks like satire to me, so I'm not sure if further discussion is worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneQR.7412 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Why no ranged greatsword with control elements?Just saying that a weapon will fulfill a specific niche just because other professions use it in such a way is kinda shortsighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 @InsaneQR.7412 said:Why no ranged greatsword with control elements?Just saying that a weapon will fulfill a specific niche just because other professions use it in such a way is kinda shortsighted. Because we have enough two hander ranged weapons. We need 2 hander melee dps weapon now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneQR.7412 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 @Knighthonor.4061 said:@InsaneQR.7412 said:Why no ranged greatsword with control elements?Just saying that a weapon will fulfill a specific niche just because other professions use it in such a way is kinda shortsighted. Because we have enough two hander ranged weapons. We need 2 hander melee dps weapon now.Well fair enough. The main part here is GS xDIts kinda an iconic weapon in the game and still missing on the last soldier profession.Some kinda dervish e-spec with GS would be neato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf Kai.3682 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 @Kain Francois.4328 said:Simply put, the Revenant gets a weapon to fill a niche the class doesn’t have. Compare with what the class currently has. See my Tl;dr at the bottom. ✔️ Sword/sword: Fast, power dps✔️ Hammer: Slow, long range damage✔️ Staff: Healing/supportive set✔️ Shield: Useless outside Deimos✔️Mace/axe: Condi melee dps set✔️Shortbow: Mid-range condi dps set good on large hitboxesWe are missing a single-handed ranged condi weapon with a focus on burst damage, contrasting Mace as a steady dps Condi weapon. We are also missing a condi offhand to properly replace Axe from its current hybrid role.Compare with the Rev’s current options. Excluding them based on what we currently have, the next elite specialization won't be supportive or hybrid support since we already got Herald and Renegade for both defensive and offensive support. Glint is power, while Kalla is hybrid with offensive support via Soulcleave Summit. It will thus' have to be condi spec.❌MH axe: Will it be condi? We have mainhand mace for that. And power? Already got MH sword.❌Focus: Defensive niche filled by shield, is going to compete with both Sword and Axe offhand. ❌Warhorn: Glint and Renegade are both supportive specs.❌Torch: Possible option, but needs a new mainhand❌Offhand mace: Can't be because it needs to include a new mainhand❌Longbow: Already have shortboow on renegade as bow nich❌Rifle: Hammer fills long range niche for power. Does not match Revenant theme.❌Pistol: See above.❌Scepter: Lacks synergy with Revenant offhand, needs a new offhand. ❌Greatsword: Power based spec, which Glint already fulfills. ✔️Daggers: Throwing daggers MH for long range condi dps, OH daggers for burst condi to replace our hybrid dps axe.Tl;dr: Next elite spec will be a selfish condi based spec, because both Herald and Renegade are support the former being Power, and the latter Hybrid. Revenant lacks a ranged condi MH and a condi OH, dual daggers is the only viable option.Keep this thread in mind. See you 1 year from now.You’ve got some misinformation/opinion only, but nice presentation. I’d actually be ok with a dual dagger espec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narcx.3570 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 I couldn't decide whether to give this a "Thumbs Up" or a "Helpful," since there's no option for a "Hilarious."I went for the ole Helpful since you're closer to a badge for that.10/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 hummm IMO i think next elite spec for most classes with be spam and/or aoe based, i can image Anet using/salvaging content from the Utopia stuff from gw1 on next stuff release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalThought.9835 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 I really hope the next Elite would be Great Sword.1) It's the most requested.2) It fits thematically.3) It could fulfill multiple roles.The only other weapon I could strongly see is Dual Pistols.1) It could be the first and only soldier profession with this weapon.2) They could use the mist to channel a future legend.3) The could show how to use Pistols in an unconventional way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Francois.4328 Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 @VocalThought.9835 said:The only other weapon I could strongly see is Dual Pistols.1) It could be the first and only soldier profession with this weapon.2) They could use the mist to channel a future legend.3) The could show how to use Pistols in an unconventional way.I kinda want to see Pistols on Guardian, of all things. They could draw inspiration from vampire hunters who use silver bullets. Maybe make something like Billy from Xenogears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yannir.4132 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 @Kain Francois.4328 said:@VocalThought.9835 said:The only other weapon I could strongly see is Dual Pistols.1) It could be the first and only soldier profession with this weapon.2) They could use the mist to channel a future legend.3) The could show how to use Pistols in an unconventional way.I kinda want to see Pistols on Guardian, of all things. They could draw inspiration from vampire hunters who use silver bullets. Maybe make something like Billy from Xenogears.No vampires in Tyria though. Let's keep it that way too. I dislike sparkly things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Francois.4328 Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 @Yannir.4132 said:@Kain Francois.4328 said:@VocalThought.9835 said:The only other weapon I could strongly see is Dual Pistols.1) It could be the first and only soldier profession with this weapon.2) They could use the mist to channel a future legend.3) The could show how to use Pistols in an unconventional way.I kinda want to see Pistols on Guardian, of all things. They could draw inspiration from vampire hunters who use silver bullets. Maybe make something like Billy from Xenogears.No vampires in Tyria though. Let's keep it that way too. I dislike sparkly things.Nah, you just have Neccromacer players who wear a thousand and one auras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narcx.3570 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 @Kain Francois.4328 said:@Yannir.4132 said:@Kain Francois.4328 said:@VocalThought.9835 said:The only other weapon I could strongly see is Dual Pistols.1) It could be the first and only soldier profession with this weapon.2) They could use the mist to channel a future legend.3) The could show how to use Pistols in an unconventional way.I kinda want to see Pistols on Guardian, of all things. They could draw inspiration from vampire hunters who use silver bullets. Maybe make something like Billy from Xenogears.No vampires in Tyria though. Let's keep it that way too. I dislike sparkly things.Nah, you just have Neccromacer players who wear a thousand and one auras.Coming full circle, I think dual pistols would also be a pretty cool spec for Necromancers... They could like draw in life-force from enemies via their offhand pistol, and then spend it as ammo to pew pew out of their mainland pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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