NorthernRedStar.3054 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 It's too noob-proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Don't worry they will probably nerf smoke screen even more, probably increase cd to 50 secs, blind pulse to 2 secs, and duration dropped to 6 secs.Maybe worse than that.With the other hits to shadow arts, thief damage in general, the nerf to backstab....The bandwagoneers will be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Disgrace.4275 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Well all of the other "fairer" builds got nerfed and now it's all about hiding in steath indefinitely and big back stab gimmick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernRedStar.3054 Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said:Well all of the other "fairer" builds got nerfed and now it's all about hiding in steath indefinitely and big back stab gimmick.Idk what you mean, there's at least 3 competitive viable thief builds right now. You're by no means restricted to just "stealth cheese". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Disgrace.4275 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 @NorthernRedStar.3054 said:@"Fat Disgrace.4275" said:Well all of the other "fairer" builds got nerfed and now it's all about hiding in steath indefinitely and big back stab gimmick.Idk what you mean, there's at least 3 competitive viable thief builds right now. You're by no means restricted to just "stealth cheese".I was referring to the other d/p build that didn't rely on assassins signet or shadow arts. Yeah s/d is still alive too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saerni.2584 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 There are a lot of people overly reliant on having access to massive damage cc chains.The tears will flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzardome.9184 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 just l2p lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernRedStar.3054 Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 @azzardome.9184 said:just l2p lolExcellent argument! Don't hit your ego on the door frame on your way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnfall.9573 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 why not just put Thief Profession in maintenance mode for few months in (6 months with heavy diagnosis testing) and release them after the patch settles in? what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 @Burnfall.9573 said:why not just put Thief Profession in maintenance mode for few months in (6 months with heavy diagnosis testing) and release them after the patch settles in? what do you think?we would lose almost half of pvp population if thief was removed lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnfall.9573 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 @Leonidrex.5649 said:@"Burnfall.9573" said:why not just put Thief Profession in maintenance mode for few months in (6 months with heavy diagnosis testing) and release them after the patch settles in? what do you think?we would lose almost half of pvp population if thief was removed lolhttps://i.imgur.com/7jvBaX7.gifv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernRedStar.3054 Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 @Leonidrex.5649 said:@Burnfall.9573 said:why not just put Thief Profession in maintenance mode for few months in (6 months with heavy diagnosis testing) and release them after the patch settles in? what do you think?we would lose almost half of pvp population if thief was removed lolSind would lose his job, partnership, and twitch account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 @Burnfall.9573 said:why not just put Thief Profession in maintenance mode for few months in (6 months with heavy diagnosis testing) and release them after the patch settles in? what do you think?Sure, but the polar opposite should sit out too for balance.Necro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantheman.3589 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 But what is there actually to hotfix? Only thing I can think of is desyncs or the fact that you can usually land a few autos more or less with stealth after usage of backstab... if you want a quick nerf, though it might be ez to accomplish with smokescreen obliteration and a steal range nerf of 800 range. I think the problem is the ability to just sit in stealth and punish with burst so without massive steal range the dp meta would be a bit closer to being daredevil which seems fine atm except complaints of swipe which is probably better suited to a brawler staff or sword play style which imo is fine, it’s just basically a trade off for the crazy mobility u can have just by having 3 dodges that can be traited for anything from damage to sustain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shao.7236 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 @Crab Fear.1624 said:Don't worry they will probably nerf smoke screen even more, probably increase cd to 50 secs, blind pulse to 2 secs, and duration dropped to 6 secs.Maybe worse than that.With the other hits to shadow arts, thief damage in general, the nerf to backstab....The bandwagoneers will be gone.The skill aside now being a circle was always the same. Everything that follows it is also no different, I expected a CD increase but nothing else.Backstab does need a pre-reveal but nothing else. Instant damage that's unpredictable has no place in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravan.3876 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Using Daredevil traitline now reduces endurance to 50. Consistent and ez fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 unnerfed heartseeker is going to cause game crashes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saerni.2584 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I press F1 and then the game crashes for the entire opposing team. Delete thief?:-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikieiki.7403 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 ΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 @NorthernRedStar.3054 said:@"Fat Disgrace.4275" said:Well all of the other "fairer" builds got nerfed and now it's all about hiding in steath indefinitely and big back stab gimmick.Idk what you mean, there's at least 3 competitive viable thief builds right now. You're by no means restricted to just "stealth cheese".what builds are those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernRedStar.3054 Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 @"Sikieiki.3189" said:D/p thief is hardcountered by power herald/soulbeast with signet of the hunt/lock on holo with goggles/toughness stacking. It's really not as broken as you think.S/P daredevil is a way stronger build and would be ran, if it wasn't hardcountered by core d/p. It's also just as noob proof as core d/p.Nah, you can pimp around a bad S/P thief any day of the week. Well, if you can't - then I guess they aren't the only bad of the bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikieiki.7403 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 ΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernRedStar.3054 Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 @"Sikieiki.3189" said:@NorthernRedStar.3054 said:@"Sikieiki.3189" said:D/p thief is hardcountered by power herald/soulbeast with signet of the hunt/lock on holo with goggles/toughness stacking. It's really not as broken as you think.S/P daredevil is a way stronger build and would be ran, if it wasn't hardcountered by core d/p. It's also just as noob proof as core d/p.Nah, you can pimp around a bad S/P thief any day of the week. Well, if you can't - then I guess they aren't the only bad of the bunch.A terribad d/p thief will insta die after spiking, a terribad s/p theif has their 50% passive on top of having 3(4) stunbreaks.Are you assuming a scenario where the d/p will Heartseeker into a 1v5? If this is a +1 scenario, you know it's never happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortrialus.3062 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 @bravan.3876 said:Using Daredevil traitline now reduces endurance to 50. Consistent and ez fix No no. Reduce all Endurance Regeneration by 50% while a Daredevil. You can't have both three dodges and one Dodge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widmo.3186 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 You should’ve hotfixed DE, its too noob-proofPS: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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