Tayga.3192 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Everyone who has watched EU mAT probably noticed that mirage with portal is, unfortunately, still playable. We know of at least (and at most) one person who can play it in high level without getting stomped.You can put it on a node and leave so you threaten decap, forcing one player to sit there for a long time. Otherwise you can use the portal to quickly bomb someone with your team to gain huge advantage.We saw similar tactics repeatedly used in mAT. It makes you and your team be on two nodes at the same time with no drawback. Literally the strongest utility skill in the game, and only one person needs to run it. This means it wastes only 1 utility slot for 15 slots for your team in total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Why isnt that a valid tatic?Isnt possible to counter it as in since u know ur gona get ganked the other team should be aready waiting for that and go cap other points?Am i getting trolled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArlAlt.1630 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Nerf Portal MOAR!Edit: I think a 10 sec duration and 2500 range should be sufficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincolnbeard.1735 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Thank you for this.Wth are you doing ANerf? Thought you intended to delete mesmer entirely, why there is one person still playing it?Hotfix portal now to clean this mess from my game otherwise I might leave this game forever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storm.3120 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Dissapointed, I expected "Nerf Misha" thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 The fact u state that portal is "unfortunately is still playable" kinds shows bias that should be ignored. Why shouldn't portal be playable in a match, isnt that the point of having the skill? Why would u want a skill on any class to be unplayable? This is exactly why this new balance team needs to wake up and stop listening to the nerf this spam threads and put time into the game and classes and decide on their own or hire prefessional testers cuz their dooming this game by letting the community steer their balance decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArlAlt.1630 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 @"Psycoprophet.8107" said:The fact u state that portal is "unfortunately is still playable" kinds shows bias that should be ignored. Why shouldn't be playable in a match, isnt that the point of having the skill? Why would u want a skill on any class to be unplayable? This is exactly why this new balance team needs to wake up and stop listening to the nerf this spam threads and put time into the game and classes and decide on their own or hire prefessional testers cuz their dooming this game by letting the community steer their balance decisions.The fact that you're still allowed to post, shows bias on ANET's part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storm.3120 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 @ArlAlt.1630 said:@"Psycoprophet.8107" said:The fact u state that portal is "unfortunately is still playable" kinds shows bias that should be ignored. Why shouldn't be playable in a match, isnt that the point of having the skill? Why would u want a skill on any class to be unplayable? This is exactly why this new balance team needs to wake up and stop listening to the nerf this spam threads and put time into the game and classes and decide on their own or hire prefessional testers cuz their dooming this game by letting the community steer their balance decisions.The fact that you're still allowed to post, shows bias on ANET's part.Pretty much. Given what he post I'm surprised why he isnt perma banned yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 @ArlAlt.1630 said:@"Psycoprophet.8107" said:The fact u state that portal is "unfortunately is still playable" kinds shows bias that should be ignored. Why shouldn't be playable in a match, isnt that the point of having the skill? Why would u want a skill on any class to be unplayable? This is exactly why this new balance team needs to wake up and stop listening to the nerf this spam threads and put time into the game and classes and decide on their own or hire prefessional testers cuz their dooming this game by letting the community steer their balance decisions.The fact that you're still allowed to post, shows bias on ANET's part.Oh I'm sry coming from a player that thinks certain skills the dislike shouldn't be playable ur comment means nothing lol.How about not just thinking about urself, I kno it's hard and think of players that actually like and have invested time in mesmer and enjoy using portal, think they should be a factor no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArlAlt.1630 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 @Psycoprophet.8107 said:@ArlAlt.1630 said:@Psycoprophet.8107 said:The fact u state that portal is "unfortunately is still playable" kinds shows bias that should be ignored. Why shouldn't be playable in a match, isnt that the point of having the skill? Why would u want a skill on any class to be unplayable? This is exactly why this new balance team needs to wake up and stop listening to the nerf this spam threads and put time into the game and classes and decide on their own or hire prefessional testers cuz their dooming this game by letting the community steer their balance decisions.The fact that you're still allowed to post, shows bias on ANET's part.Oh I'm sry coming from a player that thinks certain skills the dislike shouldn't be playable ur comment means nothing lol.How about not just thinking about urself, I kno it's hard and think of players that actually like and have invested time in mesmer and enjoy using portal, think they should be a factor no?I am thinking of other player's experience, hence why I made a nerf thief thread. Should I make one for Holo too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 @"Psycoprophet.8107" said:The fact u state that portal is "unfortunately is still playable" kinds shows bias that should be ignored. Why shouldn't portal be playable in a match, isnt that the point of having the skill? Why would u want a skill on any class to be unplayable? This is exactly why this new balance team needs to wake up and stop listening to the nerf this spam threads and put time into the game and classes and decide on their own or hire prefessional testers cuz their dooming this game by letting the community steer their balance decisions.Don't you get the sarcasm behind the post? This is just a veiled "mesmer is UP" thread if you haven't realized yet..I mean..he has a mesmer signature...c'mon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 @"Psycoprophet.8107" said:The fact u state that portal is "unfortunately is still playable" kinds shows bias that should be ignored.Man I am so biased against my main Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution.5409 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 In the best case, someone could take this post seriously and delete the portal with the next patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 @Revolution.5409 said:In the best case, someone could take this post seriously and delete the portal with the next patch.If deleting portal would give mesmer a chance to be good again, why not? xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravan.3876 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 @Revolution.5409 said:In the best case, someone could take this post seriously and delete the portal with the next patch.True, the one dodge change shows that balance decisions in this game have no limit in nonsenseness, stupidity, cluelessness and lack of class knowledge. Some guy making an overexaggerating overnerf joke about Mirage having one dodge only and months later we have the mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArlAlt.1630 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 @bravan.3876 said:@Revolution.5409 said:In the best case, someone could take this post seriously and delete the portal with the next patch.True, the one dodge change shows that balance decisions in this game have no limit in nonsenseness, stupidity, cluelessness and lack of class knowledge. Some guy making an overexaggerating overnerf joke about Mirage having one dodge only and months later we have the mess. outta be your shortest post yet :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravan.3876 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 @ArlAlt.1630 said:@bravan.3876 said:@Revolution.5409 said:In the best case, someone could take this post seriously and delete the portal with the next patch.True, the one dodge change shows that balance decisions in this game have no limit in nonsenseness, stupidity, cluelessness and lack of class knowledge. Some guy making an overexaggerating overnerf joke about Mirage having one dodge only and months later we have the mess. outta be your shortest post yet :D:joy: Don't get used to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArlAlt.1630 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 @bravan.3876 said:@ArlAlt.1630 said:@bravan.3876 said:@Revolution.5409 said:In the best case, someone could take this post seriously and delete the portal with the next patch.True, the one dodge change shows that balance decisions in this game have no limit in nonsenseness, stupidity, cluelessness and lack of class knowledge. Some guy making an overexaggerating overnerf joke about Mirage having one dodge only and months later we have the mess. outta be your shortest post yet :D:joy: Don't get used to it!I know better :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 @bravan.3876 said:@"Revolution.5409" said:In the best case, someone could take this post seriously and delete the portal with the next patch.True, the one dodge change shows that balance decisions in this game have no limit in nonsenseness, stupidity, cluelessness and lack of class knowledge. Some guy making an overexaggerating overnerf joke about Mirage having one dodge only and months later we have the mess. Actually it's because the balance team still isn't allowed to redesign skills. What remains to be seen is if they can influence the skills team and say "Mirage Cloak as a mechanic is too strong it needs a redesign" or "Tomes give too much with no down side, it needs to change" and the skills team actually makes changes so PvP and WvW can actually be fun again. Then adjust boss HP if PvE DPS drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnfall.9573 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Mesmer is also my main Profession. If deleting or nerfing Portal to give it more define new skills than fine. If not, leave it as it is. Portal is Mesmer signature and promotes fair competitive experience to the whole team. In other word; Mesmer is not a selfish Profession whereas Thief Profession is a selfish Profession. Here is a serious question to be asked, how does a non-selfish skill mechanic be given to a selfish skill mechanic Profession? Speaking of bias, that is complete bias against Mesmer define role. Example; it is like forcing unicycle to behave like a bus to carry more passengers........it's ludicrous!!, Bad Design!!Thief is a selfish Profession, a selfish roamer......forcing it to play a non-selfish role is wrong, Bad Design. Portal must be immediately removed from it and to be returned to its rightfully non-selfish Profession- Mesmerby the way, being a selfish Profession is not ludicrous or is a bad design and if its definite role is to be selfish than it skills and mechanics should also remain selfish as well.'Create an entry portal at your location that teleports allies to your exit portal.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincolnbeard.1735 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 @apharma.3741 said:@bravan.3876 said:@"Revolution.5409" said:In the best case, someone could take this post seriously and delete the portal with the next patch.True, the one dodge change shows that balance decisions in this game have no limit in nonsenseness, stupidity, cluelessness and lack of class knowledge. Some guy making an overexaggerating overnerf joke about Mirage having one dodge only and months later we have the mess. Actually it's because the balance team still isn't allowed to redesign skills. What remains to be seen is if they can influence the skills team and say "Mirage Cloak as a mechanic is too strong it needs a redesign" or "Tomes give too much with no down side, it needs to change" and the skills team actually makes changes so PvP and WvW can actually be fun again. Then adjust boss HP if PvE DPS drops.Come on you know better.Even if MC was redesign nothing previously nerfed would be unnerfed.Instead of the trash you have now you would have trashx2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 @Lincolnbeard.1735 said:@apharma.3741 said:@bravan.3876 said:@"Revolution.5409" said:In the best case, someone could take this post seriously and delete the portal with the next patch.True, the one dodge change shows that balance decisions in this game have no limit in nonsenseness, stupidity, cluelessness and lack of class knowledge. Some guy making an overexaggerating overnerf joke about Mirage having one dodge only and months later we have the mess. Actually it's because the balance team still isn't allowed to redesign skills. What remains to be seen is if they can influence the skills team and say "Mirage Cloak as a mechanic is too strong it needs a redesign" or "Tomes give too much with no down side, it needs to change" and the skills team actually makes changes so PvP and WvW can actually be fun again. Then adjust boss HP if PvE DPS drops.Come on you know better.Even if MC was redesign nothing previously nerfed would be unnerfed.Instead of the trash you have now you would have trashx2. I dunno I have a bit more faith in this balance team, I want to let them have a decent try and honestly the massive patch was very refreshing even if most of the builds I played got shafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekromalistik.7045 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 @ArlAlt.1630 said:@"Psycoprophet.8107" said:The fact u state that portal is "unfortunately is still playable" kinds shows bias that should be ignored. Why shouldn't be playable in a match, isnt that the point of having the skill? Why would u want a skill on any class to be unplayable? This is exactly why this new balance team needs to wake up and stop listening to the nerf this spam threads and put time into the game and classes and decide on their own or hire prefessional testers cuz their dooming this game by letting the community steer their balance decisions.The fact that you're still allowed to post, shows bias on ANET's part.Damn.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution.5409 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 @Tayga.3192 said:@Revolution.5409 said:In the best case, someone could take this post seriously and delete the portal with the next patch.If deleting portal would give mesmer a chance to be good again, why not? xDI don't think Anet replaces the portal in anything better, chrono docet. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 @Revolution.5409 said:@Tayga.3192 said:@Revolution.5409 said:In the best case, someone could take this post seriously and delete the portal with the next patch.If deleting portal would give mesmer a chance to be good again, why not? xDI don't think Anet replaces the portal in anything better, chrono docet. xDwe gave up half our fingers and a kidney, might as well double up and give our left hand, mb it will work shrug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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