30 10 0 20 10 engi was the peak of this game

[ellesee.8297]

With the success of wow classic, let's make #gw2classic happen

[Ayrilana.1396]

Doubt GW2 Classic would work due to the size of the playerbase and people not realizing exactly what things they would not have with classic.

[ellesee.8297]

They would have all the good stuff. None of the bad stuff. I'm not biased at all.

[Ayrilana.1396]

That's not how Classsic would work. Yes, you're biased as what you consider good/bad may not be what others consider good/bad.

[Shao.7236]

Wild ideas that don't put Anet ability and time in perspective.

[Sobx.1758]

I have to admit that it wasn't.

[Avatar.3568]

Are this points used in the trait system?

[Stand The Wall.6987]

everyone crying for dhuumfire nerfs when it first hit the scene was the peak of this game. still have that tear bucket.

[Ayrilana.1396]

@"Avatar.3568" said:Are this points used in the trait system?

It's the trait system that we had a launch.

Example: https://i.redd.it/4kgrx9vhxmd61.jpg

[Flumek.9043]

While im a necro 1trick since launch and its the game I enjoyed,I doubt how long it would last. It was very punishing , 1-shoty and very "proc" based.

Air + fire sigil + dhuumfire = 3k dmg on a power necro attack thats meant to do 500 dmg.Add spinal shivers and I can already remember how a duel against the average sizer looked:

hit for 3k with procsdodgedogeswap to dagger, land 2x autosdogedogeswap shrouddogeevadedodgeland shroud auto 4k , air 1k , fire 1k , spinal 4ksizer ded, me 3hp.

Its a good equal matchup betweem 2 glass builds, but only cz both builds have unfair mechanics.So if you remove 1 stupid thing , which you 99% will have to, lets say the fire air procks , you then need to make necros actual weapon more reliable.At that point, youre already playing something closer to HOT than vanilla gw2.

[Loboling.5293]

I miss gems for amulets more than anything in PvP. Being able to customize your stats more was just better.

[Falan.1839]

@"Flumek.9043" said:While im a necro 1trick since launch and its the game I enjoyed,I doubt how long it would last. It was very punishing , 1-shoty and very "proc" based.

Air + fire sigil + dhuumfire = 3k dmg on a power necro attack thats meant to do 500 dmg.Add spinal shivers and I can already remember how a duel against the average sizer looked:

hit for 3k with procsdodgedogeswap to dagger, land 2x autosdogedogeswap shrouddogeevadedodgeland shroud auto 4k , air 1k , fire 1k , spinal 4ksizer ded, me 3hp.

Its a good equal matchup betweem 2 glass builds, but only cz both builds have unfair mechanics.So if you remove 1 stupid thing , which you 99% will have to, lets say the fire air procks , you then need to make necros actual weapon more reliable.At that point, youre already playing something closer to HOT than vanilla gw2.

Don't disturb people rose tinted nostalgia with actual facts about the gameplay back then.

PvP has always had it's share of bullshit mechanics (beside a lot of very cool and skillbased ones, to be fair). At least Lich was Bullshit zapping people with AA spam in 2014 and is bullshit zapping people with AA spam in 2021, so we've gone full circle on that.

Otherwise, I'd rather have the current meta improved than going back in time, despite all the fun I had on cele rifle.

[Bazsi.2734]

I hardly ever played PvP back then, but when I did I just spammed all my skills on cooldown, and still got the highest scores in almost every hotjoin match I ever joined.Nobody knew how to play back then. If we were transported back to that time, the most distgusting oneshot meta would emerge within 2 weeks.

[Krysard.1364]

Refresh my memory, this has to be the good old nades&toolkit engi right?

[Jekkt.6045]

@Bazsi.2734 said:I hardly ever played PvP back then, but when I did I just spammed all my skills on cooldown, and still got the highest scores in almost every hotjoin match I ever joined.Nobody knew how to play back then. If we were transported back to that time, the most distgusting oneshot meta would emerge within 2 weeks.

that's what rune of vampirism was for lel.

[Cynz.9437]

@Falan.1839 said:

@"Flumek.9043" said:While im a necro 1trick since launch and its the game I enjoyed,I doubt how long it would last. It was very punishing , 1-shoty and very "proc" based.

Air + fire sigil + dhuumfire = 3k dmg on a power necro attack thats meant to do 500 dmg.Add spinal shivers and I can already remember how a duel against the average sizer looked:

hit for 3k with procsdodgedogeswap to dagger, land 2x autosdogedogeswap shrouddogeevadedodgeland shroud auto 4k , air 1k , fire 1k , spinal 4ksizer ded, me 3hp.

Its a good equal matchup betweem 2 glass builds, but only cz both builds have unfair mechanics.So if you remove 1 stupid thing , which you 99% will have to, lets say the fire air procks , you then need to make necros actual weapon more reliable.At that point, youre already playing something closer to HOT than vanilla gw2.

Don't disturb people rose tinted nostalgia with actual facts about the gameplay back then.

PvP has always had it's share of kitten mechanics (beside a lot of very cool and skillbased ones, to be fair). At least Lich was kitten zapping people with AA spam in 2014 and is kitten zapping people with AA spam in 2021, so we've gone full circle on that.

Otherwise, I'd rather have the current meta improved than going back in time, despite all the fun I had on cele rifle.

There was less of "having everything" and more of "risk/reward". I honestly miss it. And i am well aware we will never see it again (too many things changed). So give me my rose tinted glasses back while i am mashing my keys... in a raid and not pvp :(

[ellesee.8297]

Hello. I hope you are all doing well today

[GAB.9340]

I may have be biased as well but the most fun I had in PvP was the meta just before HoT came out

[Avatar.3568]

Risk and reward is why this game was so good

[Konrad Curze.5130]

the peak of this game was the first week of releaseit all went downhill fast after that, because Anet devs started listening to the pvp crowd cries, and they started ruining pvp, wvw and pve for everyone

gw2 would be the #1 MMO on the market, way above WoW + ESO + FXIV put together, if only Anet never implemented PvP into the game. that was the seed of its destruction

[ellesee.8297]

@Konrad Curze.5130 said:the peak of this game was the first week of releaseit all went downhill fast after that, because Anet devs started listening to the pvp crowd cries, and they started ruining pvp, wvw and pve for everyone

gw2 would be the #1 MMO on the market, way above WoW + ESO + FXIV put together, if only Anet never implemented PvP into the game. that was the seed of its destruction

Cringe take

[Konrad Curze.5130]

@ellesee.8297 said:

@Konrad Curze.5130 said:the peak of this game was the first week of releaseit all went downhill fast after that, because Anet devs started listening to the pvp crowd cries, and they started ruining pvp, wvw and pve for everyone

gw2 would be the #1 MMO on the market, way above WoW + ESO + FXIV put together, if only Anet never implemented PvP into the game. that was the seed of its destruction

Cringe take

2reel4u brah

[Luthan.5236]

I liked - not only for PvP - the customization that was possible there. Now we have 3 fixed trait lines where we can just select the traits needed. Back then you could opt to not take the grandmaster tier and instead use the low tier of some other trait line - allowing you to use 4 or 5 lines (where some weren't maxed out).

Example screen someone posted also shows that people took the minor traits (at 25 points or so) sometimes. Though it seems (don't really remember it anymore) you had only 70 points (if the screen was with maxt trait points). Technically the thing we have now is 90 points split on 3 trait lines, 30 points each.