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Which map do you prefer? 100 votes

Eternal Battlegrounds
27%
XenesisII.1540Mini Crinny.6190Dawdler.8521Threather.9354LetoII.3782Blood Red Arachnid.2493Chay.7852TheQuickFox.3826Tomas.6092briggah.7910Baldrick.8967Patterns.9067MarzAttakz.9608Bzz.1904Bish.8627Helicity.3416Katrina.8702Vardy.3592yorick.1305Turkeyspit.3965 27 votes
Alpine Borderlands
29%
saerni.2584Arioch.6507Tatsumi.2047Nimrod.9240ArchonWing.9480Justine.6351Vayne.8563Crazy.6029EmperorMoth.2709Magnuzone.8395Deniara Devious.3948fuzzyp.6295Donschusta.8529Shazmataz.1423Strider.7849Widmo.3186TinkTinkPOOF.9201vPumpkinG.5731Brutal Augus.5917Simzani.4318 29 votes
Desert Borderlands
34%
TheGrimm.5624santenal.1054Svarty.8019Vlad Morbius.1759kash.9213Milea.6043Gryxis.6950LucianTheAngelic.7054Kylden Ar.3724Sviel.7493Aeolus.3615HnRkLnXqZ.1870Shining One.1635Gorani.7205Clownmug.8357hallonknopp.6532Kondor.2904Fish.2769Bezerker.2379steki.1478 34 votes
Edge of the Mists (before it died)
10%
Susy.7529Sovereign.1093hugo.4705Teratus.2859Batdogi.7142Kulvar.1239Forbidden Virtue.1089Regh.8649kamikharzeeh.8016arielqueen.6587 10 votes

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  • Doug.4930Doug.4930 Member ✭✭✭
    edited July 15, 2020
    Desert Borderlands

    Dessert BL. I still hate the pve there and wish it would be nerfed. But this map makes death punishing after the speed kitten was added because it takes so kitten long to get anywhere, which I actually like.

  • saerni.2584saerni.2584 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 15, 2020
    Alpine Borderlands

    @Doug.4930 said:
    Dessert BL. I still hate the pve there and wish it would be nerfed. But this map makes death punishing after the speed kitten was added because it takes so kitten long to get anywhere, which I actually like.

    It’s actually really weird playing on it compared to EBG. An enemy can return almost instantly in EBG depending on their WPs whereas on Desert you can really punish enemies even when they have the 40% shrine buff.

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  • Vardy.3592Vardy.3592 Member ✭✭
    Eternal Battlegrounds

    B I G C A S T L E

    Currently being trash on WSR.
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  • Kylden Ar.3724Kylden Ar.3724 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 15, 2020
    Desert Borderlands

    Just like the variety in Desert. And Keep/Tower lords being unique and not instant bags is nice.

    But honestly, if [X] "Any borderland" was an option, I'd take that. I do not get the kitten fascination with middle fort.

    How many times we gotta tell you GRIND IS NOT CONTENT there ANet?

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  • Justine.6351Justine.6351 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Alpine Borderlands

    Alpine because someone who knew what they were doing designed it for both large and small scale.

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  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Edge of the Mists (before it died)

    Eotm :) anytime of the day it had activity. And since we didn't have tournaments it was the next best thing.

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • Doug.4930Doug.4930 Member ✭✭✭
    edited July 16, 2020
    Desert Borderlands

    @saerni.2584 said:

    @Doug.4930 said:
    Dessert BL. I still hate the pve there and wish it would be nerfed. But this map makes death punishing after the speed kitten was added because it takes so kitten long to get anywhere, which I actually like.

    It’s actually really weird playing on it compared to EBG. An enemy can return almost instantly in EBG depending on their WPs whereas on Desert you can really punish enemies even when they have the 40% shrine buff.

    I can't stand EBG. In lower tiers it can be bearable. But if the maps active with players the oppression of watchtower/sentries makes it awful to roam into enemy territory. Can't go anywhere without the enemy server having radar hacks. Before you know it the 10 man gank squads descend on you.

  • Solanum.6983Solanum.6983 Member ✭✭✭
    edited July 16, 2020
    Desert Borderlands

    Desert borderlands is by far the most unique and offers a lot of variety, The only problem I have with it is it's size, It takes way too long to get anywhere on it.
    EBG is fun because of the constant activity but in my opinion it's got the opposite problem, It's slightly too small for three teams imo.
    Alpine Borderlands I've gotten a little bored of, It's a lot of the same for me there lately and it doesn't help that the maps look very dated.
    EoTM I wasn't around when it was active but the map design itself is brilliant I wish they'd do something with it.

  • Talindra.4958Talindra.4958 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 16, 2020

    don't hv a fav map really.. they are all pretty old and out dated now. we actually need new game maps.. that rotates
    can have vertical maps - asura city.. or sylvari city map etc. we have desert.. maybe ice map.. or kaineng map.. these maps rotates weekly

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  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 16, 2020
    Edge of the Mists (before it died)

    @Talindra.4958 said:
    don't hv a fav map really.. they are all pretty old and out dated now. we actually need new game maps.. that rotates
    can have vertical maps - asura city.. or sylvari city map etc. we have desert.. maybe ice map.. or kaineng map.. these maps rotates weekly

    To add. I hope if this happens. Time to move forward. Just remember the mechanics that players want. Less vertical more horizontal

    No bloodlust

    Camps towers keeps castle move in that direction

    Meaning to get castle, helps if you have your keep and to get those helps to have your towers and to have those, helps to have your camps

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • Aeolus.3615Aeolus.3615 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 16, 2020
    Desert Borderlands

    Desert cause enemies cant run back to close tower or baby smc.

    If u want something u have to comit or bail out before response.

  • Teratus.2859Teratus.2859 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Edge of the Mists (before it died)

    The only map im kinda Meh on is the Alpine Borderlands..
    The only reason for this though is because there has always been multiple versions of this map in Gw2.

    Back when WvW was mandatory for World completion I came to utterly hate these maps, having to complete them 3 times multiple times was utterly insufferable, specially since I hated WvW back then too.
    Even after years of not having to do it and even coming to enjoy the odd bit of WvW now and again, that original experience of having to complete 3 identical maps has still ruined them for me.

    The introduction of Desert Borderlands was a very welcome one for me, and I am still glad to see that it has permanently replaced one of the Alpine Maps.
    I really, really hope with the next expansion that we'll finally get rid of that second Alpine map as well and a brand new Canthan themed map will come in to replace it.
    That would be perfect, no more dupe maps.

    As for my vote though, Edge of the Mists.
    This map is just fun, I had a lot of fun knocking people off the map years ago and I really like the map layout that forces encounters on bridges and stuff, it can lead to a lot of chaotic fights which was just fun.
    Sadly this map never did see it's full potential reached, it was fun while it lasted though.

  • Dawdler.8521Dawdler.8521 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Eternal Battlegrounds

    DBL winning.

    I have doubts.

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  • gert.7698gert.7698 Member ✭✭✭
    Desert Borderlands

    @Dawdler.8521 said:
    DBL winning.

    I have doubts.

    Why? I like dbl the most, but that doens’t mean I spend the most time in that map, because most commanders are on EB or hopping maps.
    But, if there’re more commanders online and if I can chose, I prefere DBL ☺️

    also, if i’m roaming, I spend most time on DBL

  • Kylden Ar.3724Kylden Ar.3724 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Desert Borderlands

    @Dawdler.8521 said:
    DBL winning.

    I have doubts.

    Yet, you have not voted for your favorite not DBL... Do you secretly love it and are afraid you'll lose your WvW street cred?

    How many times we gotta tell you GRIND IS NOT CONTENT there ANet?

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  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Eternal Battlegrounds

    Believe this poll or the fact that one map has had queues on it multiple times every day for the past 8 years, hmmmm.

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  • TheGrimm.5624TheGrimm.5624 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Desert Borderlands

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    Believe this poll or the fact that one map has had queues on it multiple times every day for the past 8 years, hmmmm.

    Due to its balance, points and three way fights EB draws its crowds. I admit though if they brought EoTM in as a 5th map and added in everything then would probably just be going Red and EoTM versus Red and EB. EoTM back in the day had some massive three way fights due to the multi-wall keep designs. If they completely re-did Alpine and increased the map, removed the wasted space, moved the border space all the way back north, and expanded the keeps then we might have something.

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  • fuzzyp.6295fuzzyp.6295 Member ✭✭✭
    edited July 17, 2020
    Alpine Borderlands

    I went with Alpine. EBG feels very small in comparison, which means fights are a plenty but I don't like how all the sides feel on top of each other. Its also more geared towards larger fights because of how close things are and SMC in the center. As a roamer, I try to avoid zergs. Desert has a lot of good things going for it, but it was a map that heavily benefited from gliding and mounts,. both of which were not present at its release. Because of that, it grew to be hated due to its long winded pathways. I love the theming behind the keeps and wish ANet would add some flavor into the other BLs. Some of the keep/tower lords are a little... much. But otherwise I wish more people played on this map. EotM is also interesting, I love the themes of each side of the map, but I don't particularly like the gimmicks that various points grant. Also its pretty unbalanced (or was, not sure how its changed), you almost never wanted to assault the Blue Keep because of what a hellish death trap it was if fully defended.

    Alpine for me has the best mix of open spaces and distance between objectives. It feels very balanced which is why I think many people like fighting there. I only wish that Green and Blue BL had different themes. Like, same layout, but Green BL is more jungle themed and Blue BL be more snowy or something.

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 18, 2020
    Eternal Battlegrounds

    It had massive three way fights because like ebg it provided a lot of nearby objectives, which increased it's chances of that happening over borderland maps. Also there's no upgrading objectives, so no real reason to keep anything, and no smc to fight over, so zergs would just keep constantly hunting for places to flip and zergs to kill as much as possible. Fastest exp/wxp/rewards gain was more important to players, I'm sure most of the 10k rank wxp players came out of there.

    At this point I think they should take alpine and desert and reposition objectives to be more like ebg and eotm, not necessarily the same amount of objectives, but take out the home advantage and have 3 equal sides, so we don't have to run 3 of those maps, but one of each, this opens the possibility of running between 1-4 maps in a match, instead of having to always run 3bl and 1ebg. (but they can't even be bothered to take out the stupid stumps on well walked pathways on desert so I wouldn't expect a map change).

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  • Sviel.7493Sviel.7493 Member ✭✭✭
    Desert Borderlands

    It's no secret that DBL is my clear favorite.

    I play defense/scouting and havoc, so I really appreciate both the vastly increased opportunities to potentially have some defensive impact and to harass with small teams or as a solo. No double-siege spots on the side keeps or impossible to reach staging areas means I can generally buy a few extra seconds for allied responders to show up. On ABL, I was basically limited to just whining in chat and that was so frustrating I took a hiatus in the months before HoT. On the other hand, since the map isn't so barren, I can actually sneak around to kill yaks and set up siege on enemy side keeps by switching up the paths I take and the angles I hit from. There's plenty more, but the general vein is that my efforts are actually meaningful on DBL whereas on ABL I'm just a Zerg alarm.

  • Aeolus.3615Aeolus.3615 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 18, 2020
    Desert Borderlands

    @Justine.6351 said:
    Alpine because someone who knew what they were doing designed it for both large and small scale.

    That concept died before game release i guess xD

  • Justine.6351Justine.6351 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Alpine Borderlands

    @Aeolus.3615 said:

    @Justine.6351 said:
    Alpine because someone who knew what they were doing designed it for both large and small scale.

    That concept died before game release i guess xD

    Uh no? There are a lot of obvious largescale paths to run the map but there are also a lot of secondary small-scale paths as alternatives. There are big open fields with large visibility but there are also small pockets with broken terrain concealing them. I wouldn't expect a zergling living in ebg karma trains since game release to appreciate the design of Alpine borderlands though xD

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  • Edge of the Mists (before it died)

    wondering why people even never got bored ebg and alpine bl for 8 years from release. please make alternate maps every other week.

  • ArchonWing.9480ArchonWing.9480 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 21, 2020
    Alpine Borderlands

    ABL > DBL > EB

    I think ABL has the best tactical aspect to it, since the objectives are all intertwined and have purpose. EB is too repetitive. and often is queued with a bunch of afk people so it's a waste of time getting in. DBL has annoyingly huge structures and NPCs.

    Any map is fine as long as there is action, though. However, I tend to avoid Home BL because of the incessant whining and people that always manage to pull EWPs at the worst times possible.

  • kamikharzeeh.8016kamikharzeeh.8016 Member ✭✭✭
    Edge of the Mists (before it died)

    summary:
    EBG is nice and fun, but has, like most maps, tons of unused space and billions of useless npc pets the map itself, also messes the whole map balance (inter--map balance) up with stonemist castle, since it tends to get camped by some servers regularly. the textures and hills are still as clunky as on every map. the biggest plus point of EBG is, that there are no ruins (a horrible mechanics that needs to go)

    Alpine borders are just plain boring. pretty old, and having the same issue as all maps with the NPC pets, unpolished textures and unused terrain at all four corners basically.

    desert border has basically the same problems. good thing about it, the latest version of it is the newest maps at least.

    eotm is a pretty special map, the big downside here tho: it is isolated from wvw and therefore clinically dead.

  • TheQuickFox.3826TheQuickFox.3826 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Eternal Battlegrounds

    I love EB because it is compact and accessible. I like Alpine because it is fair. I dislike Desert because it takes so long to travel.

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  • Aeolus.3615Aeolus.3615 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Desert Borderlands

    @TheQuickFox.3826 said:
    I love EB because it is compact and accessible. I like Alpine because it is fair. I dislike Desert because it takes so long to travel.

    it actually takes the same time or very close to travel as Alpine.

  • TheGrimm.5624TheGrimm.5624 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Desert Borderlands

    If Anet wanted to test out the interest in EoTM, they could simply bring the rewards in line with WvW maps and then gauge interest from there. I think we are past the population days of overflows but still have enough that we could use a fifth map. The time was spent, bring it into line with the other WvW maps and make it map number 5 with or before the next expansion. I admit I wouldn't complain about ABL if that was an additional option to choose from. But again, it would further excel with mounts and gliding so it needs all the same rewards and features as the other maps.

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  • HnRkLnXqZ.1870HnRkLnXqZ.1870 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Desert Borderlands

    Alpine BL lost the Quaggans. Desert BL still has Quaggans.

  • kash.9213kash.9213 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Desert Borderlands

    Desert BL feels the most like open world and it's fun to fight in but like the rest of WvW, there needs to be some updates to connect the mode with the aesthetic of the rest of the games story, WvW still feels like right around game launch, we don't even get a little of the awesome music from expansions and living world.

    We also need the roller beetle, even with regulated speed it would still feel way better for travel than the sluggish and stubby leg wingless griffon.

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