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Sunqua Peak has ruined fractals for me - [Merged]

I only have one character that I know how to play properly - a warrior / bannerslave. I was getting really good and accumulated over 100KP in fractals, well on my way to Fractal Prodigy.

Unfortunately Sunqua Peak has ruined this completely for me, to the extent that I now no longer want to play fractals. This boss requires condi DPS, and at best the condi berserker's DPS absolutely SUCKS. I have tried and tried and tried, and I can't do this fractal. No matter what. So it's either learn to play some new character from scratch or quit fractals altogether. Nowadays it's impossible to find a decent group for the other fractals, since most parties start including 100CM. I just can't do this fractal.

Thank you, A-Net, for ruining my favourite part of the game.

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  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    don't try it do solo.
    also change class for that boss.

  • Katary.7096Katary.7096 Member ✭✭✭

    @TaurusZA.5493 said:
    I only have one character that I know how to play properly - a warrior / bannerslave. I was getting really good and accumulated over 100KP in fractals, well on my way to Fractal Prodigy.

    Unfortunately Sunqua Peak has ruined this completely for me, to the extent that I now no longer want to play fractals. This boss requires condi DPS, and at best the condi berserker's DPS absolutely SUCKS. I have tried and tried and tried, and I can't do this fractal. No matter what. So it's either learn to play some new character from scratch or quit fractals altogether. Nowadays it's impossible to find a decent group for the other fractals, since most parties start including 100CM. I just can't do this fractal.

    Thank you, A-Net, for ruining my favourite part of the game.

    Join lfg groups that are advertising for "old CMs" instead of "CMs". If none exist, start one yourself.

  • Yeah it ruined it for me as well. I prolly did it about 20 times before I quit cm altogether. That lightfest, I just cant handle.
    It actually hurts my eyes.
    Oh well, I am okay though. I dont have to do everything anyway.

  • Nephalem.8921Nephalem.8921 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 12, 2020

    @TaurusZA.5493 said:
    I only have one character that I know how to play properly - a warrior / bannerslave. I was getting really good and accumulated over 100KP in fractals, well on my way to Fractal Prodigy.

    Unfortunately Sunqua Peak has ruined this completely for me, to the extent that I now no longer want to play fractals. This boss requires condi DPS, and at best the condi berserker's DPS absolutely SUCKS. I have tried and tried and tried, and I can't do this fractal. No matter what. So it's either learn to play some new character from scratch or quit fractals altogether. Nowadays it's impossible to find a decent group for the other fractals, since most parties start including 100CM. I just can't do this fractal.

    Thank you, A-Net, for ruining my favourite part of the game.

    No it doesnt. I've seen plenty of good condi warriors there. On the other hand power bs should deal almost the same dps as the other dps players in the other fractals and almost no bs does that either. Support mindset is too strong.

  • Wolfb.7025Wolfb.7025 Member ✭✭✭

    Condi warrior is good, yesterday I had a good one, pulling out more than the average dps.

    If you're true to your class get good at it, I also consider myself a holosmith one trick pony, condi holo is a hard rotation but I learned to do it and now I'm even competing against the meta classes on cm100 just ebcause I do love my class.

    Years just pass like trains
    I wave but they don't sloow dooown~ don't slow doown~♪

  • @Wolfb.7025 said:
    Condi warrior is good, yesterday I had a good one, pulling out more than the average dps.

    If you're true to your class get good at it, I also consider myself a holosmith one trick pony, condi holo is a hard rotation but I learned to do it and now I'm even competing against the meta classes on cm100 just ebcause I do love my class.

    Second this and everything else said above. Condi warrior works in CM100 and people love those that can swap/go BS for CM99 after. There’s also plenty of LFG starting at CM99.

    Side note - I also exclusively play holo and although kitten requires 3x more effort than CFB (almost didn’t bother with kitten bc of this), holo for life!

  • @TaurusZA.5493 said:
    I only have one character that I know how to play properly - a warrior / bannerslave. I was getting really good and accumulated over 100KP in fractals, well on my way to Fractal Prodigy.

    Unfortunately Sunqua Peak has ruined this completely for me, to the extent that I now no longer want to play fractals. This boss requires condi DPS, and at best the condi berserker's DPS absolutely SUCKS. I have tried and tried and tried, and I can't do this fractal. No matter what. So it's either learn to play some new character from scratch or quit fractals altogether. Nowadays it's impossible to find a decent group for the other fractals, since most parties start including 100CM. I just can't do this fractal.

    Thank you, A-Net, for ruining my favourite part of the game.

    I play condi warrior at 100 every day at high kp groups and i usually im on par or i outdps most fbs. So its not that its trash, its that you need to practise more.

  • Wolfb.7025Wolfb.7025 Member ✭✭✭

    Condi BS also works wonders in the right hands, AI has a set pattern on how long she will stand in a side of the arena and you can basically get 90+ banner uptime in the entire fight IF you know how the fight goes.
    The problem is not many people knows this fight, and the average PUG prefers to have another condi dps instead.

    Years just pass like trains
    I wave but they don't sloow dooown~ don't slow doown~♪

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I just go no banner power cc warrior on 100cm with static since Im lazy.

  • @TaurusZA.5493 said:
    I only have one character that I know how to play properly - a warrior / bannerslave. I was getting really good and accumulated over 100KP in fractals, well on my way to Fractal Prodigy.

    Not sure if you like this answer, but when you reach endgame in GW2 (would count cm fracs as endgame) i would suggest you to find an other class you enjoy. Its very important for the long term motivation to play this game and it makes it a lot of easier to find groups if you can fill multiple roles.

  • Antioche.7034Antioche.7034 Member ✭✭✭

    @TaurusZA.5493 said:
    I only have one character that I know how to play properly - a warrior / bannerslave. I was getting really good and accumulated over 100KP in fractals, well on my way to Fractal Prodigy.

    Unfortunately Sunqua Peak has ruined this completely for me, to the extent that I now no longer want to play fractals. This boss requires condi DPS, and at best the condi berserker's DPS absolutely SUCKS. I have tried and tried and tried, and I can't do this fractal. No matter what. So it's either learn to play some new character from scratch or quit fractals altogether. Nowadays it's impossible to find a decent group for the other fractals, since most parties start including 100CM. I just can't do this fractal.

    Thank you, A-Net, for ruining my favourite part of the game.

    I think 100 CM has ruined fractals for a lot of people. Mostly because it completly ruined LFG. I was at 450+ old KP and I played fractals like thrice since months, despite playing raids and other gamemodes almost daily.

  • Soul.1378Soul.1378 Member ✭✭
    edited December 15, 2020

    It ruined it for me for other reasons.

    "You did CM 100/T4 100 and finished it? Well since you liked it so much have fun doing it again for your T3 Rec"
    "You did T4 100 and climbed up that mountain? ^"
    "Oh you wiped? Here, have a bugged instance, and have fun climbing up that mountain again."

  • @lare.5129 said:
    don't try it do solo.
    also change class for that boss.

    Lord hizen wants a word with you.

  • Morokey.8534Morokey.8534 Member ✭✭
    edited December 15, 2020

    @TaurusZA.5493 said:
    I only have one character that I know how to play properly - a warrior / bannerslave. I was getting really good and accumulated over 100KP in fractals, well on my way to Fractal Prodigy.

    Unfortunately Sunqua Peak has ruined this completely for me, to the extent that I now no longer want to play fractals. This boss requires condi DPS, and at best the condi berserker's DPS absolutely SUCKS. I have tried and tried and tried, and I can't do this fractal. No matter what. So it's either learn to play some new character from scratch or quit fractals altogether. Nowadays it's impossible to find a decent group for the other fractals, since most parties start including 100CM. I just can't do this fractal.

    Thank you, A-Net, for ruining my favourite part of the game.

    "and at best the condi berserker's DPS absolutely SUCKS".. Oh really ? And why am I always first with 30-31, way better than firebrands and mirages ? You can't play it well that's why it sucks for you... Just learn your skills, their cooldowns and what they EXACTLY do.. Try to use leaps in fire fields when need to move, combo finisters from longbow in fire fields etc. and you will see. And the thing why is condi needed ? Condi isn't needed.. People look for condi because they found SC's video with full squad of condi classes, that's why. It doen't matter you are condi or power..

  • Well honestly, if it's endgame content, you should at least know how to play multiple class, it's not healty in game design wise to create 9 class that each have 2 spec with each spec that can play power and most of the time condi to (bonus for the spec that can support to like fb, thief, ele, and minus for the niche class like mirage, druid, scrapper so it's go back to even), and to let players be able to play only one build of one spec of one class.

    The only thing that kinda suck is to ask AR for each build, they should have make it to an account progression :/, even if i undesrtand the argument for being character only (even if more build progression than character), but it's quite boring.

  • @Morokey.8534 said:

    @TaurusZA.5493 said:
    I only have one character that I know how to play properly - a warrior / bannerslave. I was getting really good and accumulated over 100KP in fractals, well on my way to Fractal Prodigy.

    Unfortunately Sunqua Peak has ruined this completely for me, to the extent that I now no longer want to play fractals. This boss requires condi DPS, and at best the condi berserker's DPS absolutely SUCKS. I have tried and tried and tried, and I can't do this fractal. No matter what. So it's either learn to play some new character from scratch or quit fractals altogether. Nowadays it's impossible to find a decent group for the other fractals, since most parties start including 100CM. I just can't do this fractal.

    Thank you, A-Net, for ruining my favourite part of the game.

    "and at best the condi berserker's DPS absolutely SUCKS".. Oh really ? And why am I always first with 30-31, way better than firebrands and mirages ? You can't play it well that's why it sucks for you... Just learn your skills, their cooldowns and what they EXACTLY do.. Try to use leaps in fire fields when need to move, combo finisters from longbow in fire fields etc. and you will see. And the thing why is condi needed ? Condi isn't needed.. People look for condi because they found SC's video with full squad of condi classes, that's why. It doen't matter you are condi or power..

    Well to be honest power can do it to, but mirage/fb compo are better and much safer. But yea, condi is not mandatory just better if played with the same skill.

  • ProtoGunner.4953ProtoGunner.4953 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Just use a different class.

  • Obtena.7952Obtena.7952 Member ✭✭✭✭

    So ... one new fractal has ruined all fractals for you because the build you play isn't optimal in it? That's rather sensational and a perception problem, not an issue with game design.

    If you're on a highway and roadrunner goes "beep beep"
    Just step aside or you might end up in a heap

  • @TaurusZA.5493 said:
    I only have one character that I know how to play properly - a warrior / bannerslave. I was getting really good and accumulated over 100KP in fractals, well on my way to Fractal Prodigy.

    Unfortunately Sunqua Peak has ruined this completely for me, to the extent that I now no longer want to play fractals. This boss requires condi DPS, and at best the condi berserker's DPS absolutely SUCKS. I have tried and tried and tried, and I can't do this fractal. No matter what. So it's either learn to play some new character from scratch or quit fractals altogether. Nowadays it's impossible to find a decent group for the other fractals, since most parties start including 100CM. I just can't do this fractal.

    Thank you, A-Net, for ruining my favourite part of the game.

    You can go whit mele dps but is not the best only but you can do it.

  • sokeenoppa.5384sokeenoppa.5384 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 16, 2020

    I only have one character that I know how to play properly - mesmer/ condi mirage. I was getting really good and accumulated over 100KP raids, well on my way to voice in the void.

    Unfortunately many raids and all fractals other than 100 has ruined this completely for me, to the extent that I now no longer want to play fractals. Most bosses requires power DPS, and at best the condi mirage DPS absolutely SUCKS. I have tried and tried and tried, and I can't do most fractals or raids. No matter what. So it's either learn to play some new character from scratch or quit fractals and raids altogether. Nowadays it's impossible to find a decent group for the fractals, since most parties start including 99CM. I just can't do this fractal.

    Thank you, A-Net, for ruining my favourite part of the game.

    See what i did there? You cant be angry that you cannot take part of every piece of gw2 endgame where ppl more or less requires astleast soft meta composition if you one trick one qnd one build only.

    I'll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda.

  • The Fear.3865The Fear.3865 Member ✭✭✭

    Gw2 experience is about the dynamic gameplay and the diversity of every class/builds.

    If you're just playin a single class, you're missing >75% of gw2 content, what's the matter of missing a bit of endgame if you don't give a kitten about fully playing the game ?

  • Mouse.7382Mouse.7382 Member ✭✭✭

    @TaurusZA.5493 said:
    I only have one character that I know how to play properly - a warrior / bannerslave. I was getting really good and accumulated over 100KP in fractals, well on my way to Fractal Prodigy.

    Unfortunately Sunqua Peak has ruined this completely for me, to the extent that I now no longer want to play fractals. This boss requires condi DPS, and at best the condi berserker's DPS absolutely SUCKS. I have tried and tried and tried, and I can't do this fractal. No matter what. So it's either learn to play some new character from scratch or quit fractals altogether. Nowadays it's impossible to find a decent group for the other fractals, since most parties start including 100CM. I just can't do this fractal.

    Thank you, A-Net, for ruining my favourite part of the game.

    My 2 main classes that I love are my Mirage & Teef. I play them well, and can complete all CM's, but if I had to be honest with myself, Mirage is only good for CM100 and Teef is 98/99 + T4s. I view my ARCdps every fight for both classes and I only ever make top dps with either class in poor dps PUG groups. Now thats all fine and dandy--I dont care about speed runs; the problem arises when (instead of me creating the group) I join random PUGs. I cant tell you how many times I have joined a 98/99 on my thief, only to be immediately kicked out of the group. All the group said in the description is PDPS. I've actually whispered the group leader and said this, and their responses are, "you should know thief is not META and is greedy (ie no group support besides some BS skips)." My mirage, no matter the build cannot compete with condi FB.

    So, instead of dealing with the salt from others, just create the groups right?? Wrong. What I've seen, numerous times is even as the leader, ppl b*tching about the dps being too low (even though no deaths occured), and dropping group. I'm not taking about some under 10k dps, but ppl wanting golem-style dps numbers always--for PUG's! Its like these speed clearing players are guildlessand just berating PUGs to be at their caliber.

    To get an idea of the numbers these, what I call, professional fractal speed clear ppl can do--I created a group for CM on my mirage the other day--a SlB & FB/DH joined. They were doing 50-75k on numerous bosses--phasing was so fast, I thought it was hacking, lol!

    My point, I geared out my HB the other day, watched some videos and read some forums on how to play it. Now I join/create groups--no questions asked, no critques given (so long as might stays capped, stability when needed and heals). If pDH or cFB are this fun, Ill make a set of gear for that.

    It does not feel right, as I LOVE my mirage and teef, but in going for the fractal titles and some days, I just cant stand defending my toons, and their off META skills. Ill reserve their playtime for Open World events--maybe EOD xpact will breath new life into this META.

  • felix.2386felix.2386 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 23, 2020

    i don't think you can be considered "good" when all you play is power banner slave that has basically 5 buttons to press.
    learn condi berserker, it's one of the easier build.
    i literally got dwd while my personal level was 70 with pugs in lfg as alac and i barely know how to do fractals out side of 98 99 100
    kitten isnt hard.

    and i don't even know what kind of kp that is mentioned in your post, don't you get like 120 essence from 3 cms only

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @felix.2386 said:
    i don't think you can be considered "good" when all you play is power banner slave that has basically 5 buttons to press.
    learn condi berserker, it's one of the easier build.
    i literally got dwd while my personal level was 70 with pugs in lfg as alac and i barely know how to do fractals out side of 98 99 100
    kitten isnt hard.

    and i don't even know what kind of kp that is mentioned in your post, don't you get like 120 essence from 3 cms only

    The kp is the old one were you only got it for 100 1-3 but really mostly 1 a day(new 99) before you got 40 for each 98-100

  • Thank you everyone for the many helpful responses. I think I probably need to change my mindset and start with a other class, so am currently levelling up another character (guardian) to 80 to use condi firebrand to do this fractal. I still can't master the condi berserker and applaud those who can - the advice "get good" or "change class" is probably right!

  • @TaurusZA.5493 said:
    Thank you everyone for the many helpful responses. I think I probably need to change my mindset and start with a other class, so am currently levelling up another character (guardian) to 80 to use condi firebrand to do this fractal. I still can't master the condi berserker and applaud those who can - the advice "get good" or "change class" is probably right!

    That’s the spirit! Good luck!

  • @TaurusZA.5493 said:
    Thank you everyone for the many helpful responses. I think I probably need to change my mindset and start with a other class, so am currently levelling up another character (guardian) to 80 to use condi firebrand to do this fractal. I still can't master the condi berserker and applaud those who can - the advice "get good" or "change class" is probably right!

    Thanks you for listening to feedback, most of people only rant on forum and never listen.

  • Nightcore.5621Nightcore.5621 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 4, 2021

    I always skip fractal dailys when SUNQUA is one of them. Its to long and the reward for the time spend doin it its not worth it. I dont know maby make it shorter. It feels to long for a fractal and it feels more like it should have been a raid

  • Nightcore.5621Nightcore.5621 Member ✭✭✭

    @TaurusZA.5493 said:
    I only have one character that I know how to play properly - a warrior / bannerslave. I was getting really good and accumulated over 100KP in fractals, well on my way to Fractal Prodigy.

    Unfortunately Sunqua Peak has ruined this completely for me, to the extent that I now no longer want to play fractals. This boss requires condi DPS, and at best the condi berserker's DPS absolutely SUCKS. I have tried and tried and tried, and I can't do this fractal. No matter what. So it's either learn to play some new character from scratch or quit fractals altogether. Nowadays it's impossible to find a decent group for the other fractals, since most parties start including 100CM. I just can't do this fractal.

    Thank you, A-Net, for ruining my favourite part of the game.

    I Yes this fractal is the reason i don't do dailys when they in it. Just to long and boring and the reward not worth it for All that time spend

  • phokus.8934phokus.8934 Member ✭✭✭✭

    It is obnoxiously long but my only real complaint is that the T4 daily is also the rec. Ain’t nobody got time for that.

  • Nightcore.5621Nightcore.5621 Member ✭✭✭

    @phokus.8934 said:
    It is obnoxiously long but my only real complaint is that the T4 daily is also the rec. Ain’t nobody got time for that.

    Yes doin it 2 times in row... Just No thanks

  • And when you get in a team who gets wiped at last boss only to get bugged on repeat tries, the team just disbands and moves on without starting over, wasting even more time! Please fix the bugs too!!

  • Noah Salazar.5430Noah Salazar.5430 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 4, 2021

    yep bosss shold walk insted of charge, then power dps wuld do fine as well

  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 4, 2021

    In it's current iteration, Sunqua Peak is not worth playing.

    too long
    bugs out regularly
    The boss' HP and damage are too bloated, even on T1 and T2, making the fight too cheap to be enjoyable for many.

  • @Nightcore.5621 said:
    I always skip fractal dailys when SUNQUA is one of them. Its to long and the reward for the time spend doin it its not worth it. I dont know maby make it shorter. It feels to long for a fractal and it feels more like it should have been a raid

    Just do the CM version, you skip straight to the end boss and then fight another form of the last boss and you're done.

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Wasabi Kitty.8247 said:

    @Nightcore.5621 said:
    I always skip fractal dailys when SUNQUA is one of them. Its to long and the reward for the time spend doin it its not worth it. I dont know maby make it shorter. It feels to long for a fractal and it feels more like it should have been a raid

    Just do the CM version, you skip straight to the end boss and then fight another form of the last boss and you're done.

    If they have trouble with normal mode what make you think they can even complete challenge mode?

  • @Linken.6345 said:

    @Wasabi Kitty.8247 said:

    @Nightcore.5621 said:
    I always skip fractal dailys when SUNQUA is one of them. Its to long and the reward for the time spend doin it its not worth it. I dont know maby make it shorter. It feels to long for a fractal and it feels more like it should have been a raid

    Just do the CM version, you skip straight to the end boss and then fight another form of the last boss and you're done.

    If they have trouble with normal mode what make you think they can even complete challenge mode?

    Anyone can complete challenge mode if they're willing to reach out to people and follow instruction.