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zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭
edited October 29, 2019 in Guild Wars 2 Discussion

Mostly wanted to share the video.

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  • Gopaka.7839Gopaka.7839 Member ✭✭✭

    Nope! ktybb

  • Vinceman.4572Vinceman.4572 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 29, 2019

    @Krzysztof.5973 said:
    You should ask yourself a question. Are they capable of making good sequel?

    Exactly, and this is a rhetorical one these days. Especially zealex should know it for months now.

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  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lottie.5370 said:
    Once GW2 is "finished" or has stopped being updated with any "proper" new content, then it may be a good time for a sequel - but in my opinion it's not there yet.

    But isnt that how it works in general? A sequel doesnt make sense until it does, in this case it would make sense for it when the devs decide they dont want to keep milking gw2 therefor putting it on maintenance.

    For what is worth im on the same boat, imo this game has at least another expansion's worth of content to put out.

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 29, 2019

    @Vinceman.4572 said:

    @Krzysztof.5973 said:
    You should ask yourself a question. Are they capable of making good sequel?

    Exactly, and this is a rhetorical one these days. Especially zealex should know it for months now.

    Mainly wanted to share the vid, i have formed an opinion on this for months. For what is worth tho a new game might offer them opportunities they dont have with gw2 rn tho i wouldnt hold a candle for that.

  • Lottie.5370Lottie.5370 Member ✭✭✭

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @Lottie.5370 said:
    Once GW2 is "finished" or has stopped being updated with any "proper" new content, then it may be a good time for a sequel - but in my opinion it's not there yet.

    But isnt that how it works in general? A sequel doesnt make sense until it does, in this case it would make sense for it when the devs decide they dont want to keep milking gw2 therefor putting it on maintenance.

    For what is worth im on the same boat, imo this game has at least another expansion's worth of content to put out.

    Sure, but all I meant was that a sequel doesn't make sense right now with the current state of the game - I think the devs are still working hard to bring new experiences into the game and trying to keep things "fresh".

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lottie.5370 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @Lottie.5370 said:
    Once GW2 is "finished" or has stopped being updated with any "proper" new content, then it may be a good time for a sequel - but in my opinion it's not there yet.

    But isnt that how it works in general? A sequel doesnt make sense until it does, in this case it would make sense for it when the devs decide they dont want to keep milking gw2 therefor putting it on maintenance.

    For what is worth im on the same boat, imo this game has at least another expansion's worth of content to put out.

    Sure, but all I meant was that a sequel doesn't make sense right now with the current state of the game - I think the devs are still working hard to bring new experiences into the game and trying to keep things "fresh".

    It would be unwise after all the "hype" they tried to built around the saga.

  • Game of Bones.8975Game of Bones.8975 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I just saw this opinion on YouTube and it got me wondering: "Would I even spend more time finishing the Legendary I'm working toward or any of the other medium/long-term goals I have in the works?"

    I know I wouldn't buy any more Gems for outfits, skins, or other BL goodies.

    I would probably sell most of my non-bound items to raise gold and buy those things I may want to run around with for a short amount of time.

    But that's just me.

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  • Fenella.2634Fenella.2634 Member ✭✭✭

    Any GW3 most likely won't be a PC MMORPG continuation of GW2. It'd be far more realistic to keep GW2 running as long as possible and have that GW3 not compete directly with it. So it'd have to be either a mobile game, or a different genre.

    So... If you think it's time for the next part of the GW2 story, better hope for another expac, I'd say.

  • I would like a Guild Wars 3 simply for a engine overhaul so the game can run better....Bleeding edge hardware... runs todays AAA games at ultra settings 2k resolution at 150+ FPS... and PC struggles in LA.

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Vinceman.4572 said:
    They are not even capable of making a new expansions because that's far more expensive than shipping out a LS every 3-4 months (idc about semantics between LS and Saga - it's the same thing). Some very entitled software developers have spoken up in this forum weeks ago and justified that expansions cost way more than this LS model. So, a GW3 would be more than an expansion, it would mean many things have to be developed from the scratch resulting in a huge financial investment Arenanet - or better said: NCSoft - has to make beforehand. It would be several times more the effort and the money than they are now investing into GW2.
    GW3 at this point of time? NO fricking way ever. Never. Not going to happen, unrealistic as hell.

    I think ncsoft treats diff a brand new game versus an existing one or an installment but thats w/e at this point.

  • Trise.2865Trise.2865 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 31, 2019

    Plastic Society (tm).
    No. Just like the last eight times you asked.

    If we want ANet to step up their game, then we must step up ours.

  • Hannelore.8153Hannelore.8153 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Fenella.2634 said:
    Any GW3 most likely won't be a PC MMORPG continuation of GW2. It'd be far more realistic to keep GW2 running as long as possible and have that GW3 not compete directly with it. So it'd have to be either a mobile game, or a different genre.

    So... If you think it's time for the next part of the GW2 story, better hope for another expac, I'd say.

    According to recent statistics, PC sales (especially laptops), are back on the rise. Mobile gaming is mostly a failure except for cheap clickers and such and many mobile games of the caliber, including what was presumably a sequel, remake or sister game to GW2 (no confirmation here from ArenaNet , but a ton of evidence points towards it), have either failed or been cancelled because phones aren't good for it, while other devices like tablets continue to get bigger and more powerful, slowly reversing the previous trend of getting smaller and less powerful.

    Basically people realised that computers were good for things afterall. Consoles are another story..

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  • I dont think it's time now, but I do think that time is much more rapidly approaching than I would like. Mostly, because of the stupendously slow content release schedules we veterans from 2012, and others who have joined since then, have endured.

    I've pumped my fair share of money into this game, many, many times more than what I spent on the base games or even the physical collectors edition added. To this day, I have yet to see an acceptable rate of adding content. For the first time since shortly after launch I'm taking longer and longer breaks from a game I have enjoyed for almost 10 years now. All because ain't nothing happening. The festivals are just a "flip the switch" deal and offer a few new skins every year, but no updates beyond that and I'm not sure we'll see anything new involving the Saga until after New Years.

    On the other hand, you can predictably say that every tuesday the store gets updated.

    ...

    It's very frustrating.

    Potential requires action in order to be realized.

  • Well kind of like what happened in Guild Wars 1, I don't think I'd stop working on anything until it came out. The moment it came out however, that's when I would be playing the new game. Assuming it's not mobile.

    Potential requires action in order to be realized.

  • Fenella.2634Fenella.2634 Member ✭✭✭

    @Hannelore.8153 said:

    @Fenella.2634 said:
    Any GW3 most likely won't be a PC MMORPG continuation of GW2. It'd be far more realistic to keep GW2 running as long as possible and have that GW3 not compete directly with it. So it'd have to be either a mobile game, or a different genre.

    So... If you think it's time for the next part of the GW2 story, better hope for another expac, I'd say.

    According to recent statistics, PC sales (especially laptops), are back on the rise. Mobile gaming is mostly a failure except for cheap clickers and such and many mobile games of the caliber, including what was presumably a sequel, remake or sister game to GW2 (no confirmation here from ArenaNet , but a ton of evidence points towards it), have either failed or been cancelled because phones aren't good for it, while other devices like tablets continue to get bigger and more powerful, slowly reversing the previous trend of getting smaller and less powerful.

    Basically people realised that computers were good for things afterall. Consoles are another story..

    Sure, but GW2 is ANets only money-making game ATM. They would be really stupid if they set up their next big game in the exact same niche, competing for costumers with themselves. In the worst case they'd hurt GW2 badly and still can't make GW3 profitable.
    Making GW3 not a direct competitor is way safer.

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Fenella.2634 said:

    @Hannelore.8153 said:

    @Fenella.2634 said:
    Any GW3 most likely won't be a PC MMORPG continuation of GW2. It'd be far more realistic to keep GW2 running as long as possible and have that GW3 not compete directly with it. So it'd have to be either a mobile game, or a different genre.

    So... If you think it's time for the next part of the GW2 story, better hope for another expac, I'd say.

    According to recent statistics, PC sales (especially laptops), are back on the rise. Mobile gaming is mostly a failure except for cheap clickers and such and many mobile games of the caliber, including what was presumably a sequel, remake or sister game to GW2 (no confirmation here from ArenaNet , but a ton of evidence points towards it), have either failed or been cancelled because phones aren't good for it, while other devices like tablets continue to get bigger and more powerful, slowly reversing the previous trend of getting smaller and less powerful.

    Basically people realised that computers were good for things afterall. Consoles are another story..

    Sure, but GW2 is ANets only money-making game ATM. They would be really stupid if they set up their next big game in the exact same niche, competing for costumers with themselves. In the worst case they'd hurt GW2 badly and still can't make GW3 profitable.
    Making GW3 not a direct competitor is way safer.

    Depends, that is if a new game directly competes with gw2, id compaire this with w9w retail and wow classic, they both exist and take some resources but both have their own audiences.

    We could see a similar case with gw2 and gw3 or simply we could see gw3 happen after the main plot of gw2 has concluded.

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Depends for me if they did hom 2.0

  • Hannelore.8153Hannelore.8153 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Fenella.2634 said:

    @Hannelore.8153 said:

    @Fenella.2634 said:
    Any GW3 most likely won't be a PC MMORPG continuation of GW2. It'd be far more realistic to keep GW2 running as long as possible and have that GW3 not compete directly with it. So it'd have to be either a mobile game, or a different genre.

    So... If you think it's time for the next part of the GW2 story, better hope for another expac, I'd say.

    According to recent statistics, PC sales (especially laptops), are back on the rise. Mobile gaming is mostly a failure except for cheap clickers and such and many mobile games of the caliber, including what was presumably a sequel, remake or sister game to GW2 (no confirmation here from ArenaNet , but a ton of evidence points towards it), have either failed or been cancelled because phones aren't good for it, while other devices like tablets continue to get bigger and more powerful, slowly reversing the previous trend of getting smaller and less powerful.

    Basically people realised that computers were good for things afterall. Consoles are another story..

    Sure, but GW2 is ANets only money-making game ATM. They would be really stupid if they set up their next big game in the exact same niche, competing for costumers with themselves. In the worst case they'd hurt GW2 badly and still can't make GW3 profitable.
    Making GW3 not a direct competitor is way safer.

    That's why I was implying it would work well as a console game.

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  • @zealex.9410 said:
    Depends for me if they did hom 2.0

    You know, I thought about that but I'm not sure that they would be able to pull it off in this game. The previous system had a lot to do with title rankings and rep, and so far there has never been a title that you can get for having x amount of other titles behind your belt across all aspects of the game. The End-All-And-Be-All is one that asks you to get other titles, but from/for a very specific location (SW).

    Potential requires action in order to be realized.

  • Nothing. Probably it will be connected in some way like GW1 Hall of Monuments or similar system. Second, it will be released after years.

  • Healix.5819Healix.5819 Member ✭✭✭✭

    GW3 is no longer a possibility after NCSoft stepped in and cancelled their future developments. They need to recover, and right now their biggest opportunity is launching on the next-gen consoles.

  • @Healix.5819 said:
    GW3 is no longer a possibility after NCSoft stepped in and cancelled their future developments. They need to recover, and right now their biggest opportunity is launching on the next-gen consoles.

    Yeah. Wrong.

    Who's going to code it for consoles from scratch?

    Their biggest oppurtunity is an expansion and constant and consistant updates.

  • ugrakarma.9416ugrakarma.9416 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Theres lots of ppl aged 30yr+ playing GW2 these crowd inst turned on by new games like teens or kids. this thing of bandwagon on 'new trends' is almost a teenager stuff. Its was the big initial mistake of GW2 try appease the crowd perma hyped for new things with LWS1 fiasco.

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  • Game of Bones.8975Game of Bones.8975 Member ✭✭✭✭

    It would only help ANET if Legendaries, albeit in the form of the new game, were allowed to cross over.
    People would have a reason to rush and complete those items in order to have them carry over.

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  • Vinceman.4572Vinceman.4572 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @zealex.9410 said:
    I think ncsoft treats diff a brand new game versus an existing one or an installment but thats w/e at this point.

    Do you really think NCSoft's strategy favorizes a new GW3 to this moment after what has happened to Arenanet including their only gem over the last months? Are you really that shortsighted and lacking basic company strategy? How on earth do you think a GW3 will shine at the MMORPG market to this moment of time. To make that happen you would need such a huge investment machinery to overrun every negative feedback and appearance in the past. If for today only a company of the size of Blizzard or anything related would be able to deliver that. Arenanet can't, not even with the backing of NCSoft.
    Like so often, it feels that you are vastly out of touch about the things around you and the things you mention in your threads.

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  • Personally I would love to see a GW3
    I feel like there's a huge problem with scarring away new players.
    The quality of the core game is so far below the quality of everything season 3 onward. New players are still forced to go through core however, and have to endure the lack luster core game then take a massive story leap to either season 2 or HoT.

  • mtpelion.4562mtpelion.4562 Member ✭✭✭

    A sequel requires an enormous quantity of money, a massive hiring spree, years of development, and a gigantic level of risk as to whether the vast quantity of time and money that is spent will recoup itself, let alone make a profit.

    Sequels are thus not something that will ever be considered unless there are significant limitations to the existing game.

    Since GW2 does not have any of those significant limitations (as evidenced by their ability to add new systems), there is absolutely no business reason for them to even remotely consider a sequel.

  • SloRules.3560SloRules.3560 Member ✭✭✭

    @mtpelion.4562 said:
    A sequel requires an enormous quantity of money, a massive hiring spree, years of development, and a gigantic level of risk as to whether the vast quantity of time and money that is spent will recoup itself, let alone make a profit.

    Sequels are thus not something that will ever be considered unless there are significant limitations to the existing game.

    Since GW2 does not have any of those significant limitations (as evidenced by their ability to add new systems), there is absolutely no business reason for them to even remotely consider a sequel.

    You haven't read on posts of how problematic it is to edit even something like UI...

  • lokh.2695lokh.2695 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Oh look at the time, it's time for this thread again.
    I probably wouldn't follow to a third installment unless I could take a lot of my effort in GW2 with me. I doubt they'll do it honestly. See you again in next weeks GW3 thread.

    Why bother, just delete the official Forum.

  • IMHO naming this game "Guild Wars 2" was something reasonable back when the game was launched, but today it is not. It only serves for "zillions" of topics like this or speculations about something that shouldn't happen. I see GW2 more like a constantly expandable game, with more and more features and regions added with newer updates. Pretty much how it is in Elder Scrolls Online.

    If something as a "GW3" could exist, I think it shouldn't be a different game, but a restructuring of this one (mainly in terms of engine, structure and such) known simply as "GW", without version numbers, to it we could move our characters and live to fight another day.

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  • Despond.2174Despond.2174 Member ✭✭✭
    edited October 31, 2019

    @lokh.2695 said:
    Oh look at the time, it's time for this thread again.
    I probably wouldn't follow to a third installment unless I could take a lot of my effort in GW2 with me. I doubt they'll do it honestly. See you again in next weeks GW3 thread.

    Well see for me that's the whole point of a new sequel. Not just new immersion with improved game play, visuals and sound but a fresh beginning, everything seen with new eyes, new discoveries, everyone @ ground level, fresh economy , everyone learning at the same time. They could still keep GW2 running, but I am not sure about the costs.

    But it's just not going to happen, well at least not for quite a few more years. I would love GW3 and would preorder it in a heartbeat but it wouldn't surprise me if it never happens or at minimum takes 4-5 more years.

  • Pirogen.9561Pirogen.9561 Member ✭✭✭

    Id buy GW2 expansion, not GW3. I kinda just started, don't want to "switch" again.

    I'd also buy GW1 content. How to say, a way to replay old GW1 missions within GW2. With current GW2 engine, characters and so on. As some sort of time travel thing (that doesn't change timeline). A port of GW1 story to GW2.

    But I'd not buy GW3 at this time. So v1.9 or v2.1, but not v3.0.

  • Not unless you can carry over EVERYTHING unlocked in GW2. Every skin, every character slot, every finisher even if GW3 doesn't have them and they are just emotes. Everything.

  • Swagg.9236Swagg.9236 Member ✭✭✭✭

    GW3 would be as mismanaged as GW2. It's time for the franchise to die.

  • Kulvar.1239Kulvar.1239 Member ✭✭✭

    There's no point doing GW3 if Arena.net still put monetization above fun.

  • @Swagg.9236 said:
    GW3 would be as mismanaged as GW2. It's time for the franchise to die.

    ^This is blasphemy.

  • I am not pro or anti GW3. I'd just like to have the fun part in whichever they put their focus. The fun seems to be harder and harder to find.

  • Bassdeff.1895Bassdeff.1895 Member ✭✭✭

    If there is work being done on GW3 I'm sure it is in the very very early stages, like working on a new engine.

  • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 28, 2020

    @Bassdeff.1895 said:
    If there is work being done on GW3 I'm sure it is in the very very early stages, like working on a new engine.

    Pffft... with what we are getting in GW2, you really believe there are resources put in a GW3? Ridiculous. If so, the result won't be any better than GW2, and that's just not good enough to commit to. After seven and a half years, it feels like they are just getting started with some of the good ideas (i.e., what you can do with the engine, how you produce higher quality writing etc) - and that's way too late. Also, ditching some of the best features of GW2 early on (namely branched dialogue with personal story options, and the character personality feature), and the removal of an expansion game model, doesn't help the future of the game, either.

  • Bassdeff.1895Bassdeff.1895 Member ✭✭✭

    @Ashantara.8731 said:

    @Bassdeff.1895 said:
    If there is work being done on GW3 I'm sure it is in the very very early stages, like working on a new engine.

    Pffft... with what we are getting in GW2, you really believe there are resources put in a GW3? Ridiculous. If so, the result won't be any better than GW2, and that's just not good enough to commit to.

    GW has been a profitable franchise and GW2 has a limited life expectancy. Do you really think NCsoft is just going to let a profitable franchise die? Anet still has something like 300 employees, that's more than enough to maintain GW2 and have a group working on the future of the franchise.

  • No. Never. Rather have unlimited ammount of expansions than another new game.