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DRMs Bugged? Crazy easy after the patch!

Jong.5937Jong.5937 Member ✭✭✭
edited April 6, 2021 in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Anyone else seeing this?
Just did the 3 daily CMs and all were ridiculously easy.
No hard mobs and very low health pool, especially boss. I'd say easier than regular non CM, but can't be sure.

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  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 6, 2021

    I certainly hope that's intended for public DRMs.
    They are less tedious this way.

  • @Jong.5937 said:
    Anyone else seeing this?
    Just did the 3 daily CMs and all were ridiculously easy.
    No hard mobs and very low health pool, especially boss. I'd say easier than regular non CM, but can't be sure.

    That is not intended and there's a fix incoming! :)

    ArenaNet Communications Team

  • Virdo.1540Virdo.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I hope they will get harder than before. Its kindergarden-mode

  • Noah Salazar.5430Noah Salazar.5430 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 6, 2021

    Ok so it's : CM Powerfull Foes
    What happyn? : Not triggering buff on mobs, but CM count to reward
    Are other CM not works? CM Final Boss on some (but CM count to reward)
    Are you geting 3/3 rewards? Yes
    Is it game breaking bug? No

  • aspirine.6852aspirine.6852 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Dunno what you are talking about but solo they are exactly boring long as before.

  • Noah Salazar.5430Noah Salazar.5430 Member ✭✭✭

    @aspirine.6852 @Fueki.4753 no it's only afecting CM
    Means if you create your own team, as you can't open cm in public

  • ParadoX.3124ParadoX.3124 Member ✭✭✭

    Take your time, DRMs are much less boring that way

  • Kilty.4906Kilty.4906 Member ✭✭

    This is also happening on NM, I think it's not scaling well when you have other ppl

  • DAN.7314DAN.7314 Member ✭✭✭

    On Fields of Ruin the mobs have noticeably more hit points (when CM is turned off).

  • DKRathalos.9625DKRathalos.9625 Member ✭✭✭

    Honestly though? don't fix this, I mean DRM is kind of not a good design in the first place at least this way ppl can get ach.

  • DAN.7314DAN.7314 Member ✭✭✭

    Seems all normal (non CM) mobs have more HP now. This is in solo DRM.

  • Inculpatus cedo.9234Inculpatus cedo.9234 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks, bug. Managed to finish Stretch today. :tongue:

    Otherwise, I would never have unlocked it.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    this is good idea, once per week, or per fer week have one day event to reduced hp for drm. We can continue that idea to raids.

    want solid balance ? - play chess.

  • Rakotia.5812Rakotia.5812 Member ✭✭

    I think this bug can stay here xD I completed 5 Snowden Drifts with CMs as it was my last achievement for DRM, otherwise I would never have unlocked it! You really should make all DRM more balanced and I really expect nex chapter of the story is going to bring a new map and not more DRMs....

  • It’s infantile mode from sab spreading outside the box...

    It doesn't matter how long it takes to achieve something, its not the end result that matters, its the journey you take to get there.

    Whiteside Ridge (EU), Achievement Hunter

  • mindcircus.1506mindcircus.1506 Member ✭✭✭✭

    This bug is awful and absolutely sucked the fun out of my group's DRM run last night.

    Please fix these as soon as possible and revoke the acheivements from anyone who has exploited this bug to get them.

    "We recognize that some players are not able to complete all content." Gaile Gray 01.10.19

  • Urud.4925Urud.4925 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @mindcircus.1506 said:
    This bug is awful and absolutely sucked the fun out of my group's DRM run last night.

    Please fix these as soon as possible and revoke the acheivements from anyone who has exploited this bug to get them.

    As long as they are able to remove only the runs did after the patch... I'm fine with it. It took me a lot to get 4/5 runs. I don't want to restart from 0 :D

  • Bristingr.5034Bristingr.5034 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 7, 2021

    @mindcircus.1506 said:
    This bug is awful and absolutely sucked the fun out of my group's DRM run last night.

    Please fix these as soon as possible and revoke the acheivements from anyone who has exploited this bug to get them.

    These DRMs aren't fun to run at all after the first time. Hell, last night was the first time I've done them again just to try and finish those stupid unobtainable [Snowden] achievements. Besides, not ALL of them are bugged. Bloodtide Coast isn't broken (found that out when we did it).

  • mindcircus.1506mindcircus.1506 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Bristingr.5034 said:

    @mindcircus.1506 said:
    This bug is awful and absolutely sucked the fun out of my group's DRM run last night.

    Please fix these as soon as possible and revoke the acheivements from anyone who has exploited this bug to get them.

    These DRMs aren't fun to run at all after the first time. Hell, last night was the first time I've done them again just to try and finish those stupid unobtainable [Snowden] achievements. Besides, not ALL of them are bugged. Bloodtide Coast isn't broken (found that out when we did it).

    That is your personal opinion. I run a few of these almost daily with my friends and we enjoy them a lot.
    Snowden was/is absolutely NOT unobtainable. I have had the achieve for weeks.

    "We recognize that some players are not able to complete all content." Gaile Gray 01.10.19

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I doubt that they'd revoke achievements due to how many people have likely completed them and that they didn't do it for previous achievements in the game with a recent example being the one to defend the Flame Legion legionnaires.

  • Inculpatus cedo.9234Inculpatus cedo.9234 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Unlikely to revoke any achievements. There's no way to lock, again, unlocked items on the account, such as the Stretch emote.

  • Jong.5937Jong.5937 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 7, 2021

    @mindcircus.1506 said:

    @Bristingr.5034 said:

    @mindcircus.1506 said:
    This bug is awful and absolutely sucked the fun out of my group's DRM run last night.

    Please fix these as soon as possible and revoke the acheivements from anyone who has exploited this bug to get them.

    These DRMs aren't fun to run at all after the first time. Hell, last night was the first time I've done them again just to try and finish those stupid unobtainable [Snowden] achievements. Besides, not ALL of them are bugged. Bloodtide Coast isn't broken (found that out when we did it).

    That is your personal opinion. I run a few of these almost daily with my friends and we enjoy them a lot.
    Snowden was/is absolutely NOT unobtainable. I have had the achieve for weeks.

    Yep, I agree. Snowdon CM was possibly too tight on timing initially but since the very early days it's been very doable. It may still be the only one to truly be a challenge, but that is no bad thing. The timers on the others are so lax you can really foul up and as long as the boss does not actually reset you are almost guaranteed 3/3 even without this bug!

  • Jong.5937Jong.5937 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 7, 2021

    @mindcircus.1506 said:
    All this ever took was a decent team who worked the mechanics.

    Yeah that is quite possibly true. No doubt, though, Snowdon's timer was and to some extent still is, out of step with the others. With the other DRMs, the timer "challenge" barely merits the name!

  • darksome.1697darksome.1697 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 7, 2021

    Leaving it in for as long as you have now without a patch, you might as well keep it like this. I've seen people doing CMs for 24hrs since this bug got known. After all, it takes no skill whatsoever, you can even solo the CMs on a bear bow now. Reverting it will make those not reading the forums/reddit feel cheated.

  • Bahocan.5802Bahocan.5802 Member ✭✭

    İ dont know about CM's but in ''normal mode'' mobs have more hp and damage... it was more harder to do solo with this hp..hope its gona fix

  • Jong.5937Jong.5937 Member ✭✭✭

    @darksome.1697 said:
    Leaving it in for as long as you have now without a patch, you might as well keep it like this. I've seen people doing CMs for 24hrs since this bug got known. After all, it takes no skill whatsoever, you can even solo the CMs on a bear bow now. Reverting it will make those not reading the forums/reddit feel cheated.

    Please no! I can't face doing these three times a day in this braindead mode!

  • Bristingr.5034Bristingr.5034 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 7, 2021

    @Jong.5937 said:

    @darksome.1697 said:
    Leaving it in for as long as you have now without a patch, you might as well keep it like this. I've seen people doing CMs for 24hrs since this bug got known. After all, it takes no skill whatsoever, you can even solo the CMs on a bear bow now. Reverting it will make those not reading the forums/reddit feel cheated.

    Please no! I can't face doing these three times a day in this braindead mode!

    So then don't. The challenge that these missions exerted are less fun and less rewarding than other things in the game. For the time that it takes to do one of these, you can just do a T4 fractal. I generally spend my time in WvW and THAT provides more rewards (and fun) than these kitten things. Once the bug gets fixed, the participation rate will plummet again. The only reason people are even doing them right now is to snatch the achievements and bailing. That speaks more about the content rather than the bug/exploit.

  • mindcircus.1506mindcircus.1506 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @darksome.1697 said:
    Leaving it in for as long as you have now without a patch, you might as well keep it like this. I've seen people doing CMs for 24hrs since this bug got known. After all, it takes no skill whatsoever, you can even solo the CMs on a bear bow now. Reverting it will make those not reading the forums/reddit feel cheated.

    Let me get this straight.... we're now to make allowances for people who didn't cheat in a timely manner?
    This community... seriously.

    "We recognize that some players are not able to complete all content." Gaile Gray 01.10.19

  • darksome.1697darksome.1697 Member ✭✭✭

    @mindcircus.1506 said:

    @darksome.1697 said:
    Leaving it in for as long as you have now without a patch, you might as well keep it like this. I've seen people doing CMs for 24hrs since this bug got known. After all, it takes no skill whatsoever, you can even solo the CMs on a bear bow now. Reverting it will make those not reading the forums/reddit feel cheated.

    Let me get this straight.... we're now to make allowances for people who didn't cheat in a timely manner?
    This community... seriously.

    I forgot to put a sarcasm mode on. Tbh, just looking at my friends list, the number of people there now constantly in CMs racking up all the AP that would otherwise have taken some effort is staggering. They should have patched this immediately. 24+ hours later, they're too late to the party.

  • Jong.5937Jong.5937 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 7, 2021

    @Bristingr.5034 said:

    @Jong.5937 said:

    @darksome.1697 said:
    Leaving it in for as long as you have now without a patch, you might as well keep it like this. I've seen people doing CMs for 24hrs since this bug got known. After all, it takes no skill whatsoever, you can even solo the CMs on a bear bow now. Reverting it will make those not reading the forums/reddit feel cheated.

    Please no! I can't face doing these three times a day in this braindead mode!

    So then don't. The challenge that these missions exerted are less fun and less rewarding than other things in the game. For the time that it takes to do one of these, you can just do a T4 fractal. I generally spend my time in WvW and THAT provides more rewards (and fun) than these kitten things.

    I spend most of my time in WvW too, so you'll get no argument from me there. But, regarding DRMs, I'll agree they have been done on the cheap and are pretty repetitive, but there are unique rewards, unique mats and a unique currency that may still be used for something useful (e.g. legendary amulet). Also, before this bug, the widespread application and need for removal, of buffs is a nice evolution, even from T4 fractals.

    The rewards in gold may not be as high but they do offer a different challenge and the mats/currency may be needed later. I'd prefer to do them during these events rather than in a month when the scene really is dead!

  • Jong.5937Jong.5937 Member ✭✭✭

    @darksome.1697 said:

    @mindcircus.1506 said:

    @darksome.1697 said:
    Leaving it in for as long as you have now without a patch, you might as well keep it like this. I've seen people doing CMs for 24hrs since this bug got known. After all, it takes no skill whatsoever, you can even solo the CMs on a bear bow now. Reverting it will make those not reading the forums/reddit feel cheated.

    Let me get this straight.... we're now to make allowances for people who didn't cheat in a timely manner?
    This community... seriously.

    I forgot to put a sarcasm mode on. Tbh, just looking at my friends list, the number of people there now constantly in CMs racking up all the AP that would otherwise have taken some effort is staggering. They should have patched this immediately. 24+ hours later, they're too late to the party.

    Totally agree.

  • TeeracK.3601TeeracK.3601 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 7, 2021

    ill be honest i found the drms i did today was more fun then any i did before lol. I'm all for hard content but making it "hard" by giving it a f*** ton of hp, so you have to stare at your screen for 10 minutes for something to die isn't hard or fun. it just kinda sucks >.<

    The pacing of some of them like lake doric, snowden, and fireheart rn actually was fun to me. When they 'fix' it they should just make things hit harder but keep things dying fast like this.

    GW2 has always been a really casual game over all. I think thats why when ever something needs to be adjusted its hard for the dev's to improve things because they need to ignore so many insecure gamers like half the comments in this thread. I think for anyone who actually does all the content in this game it's pretty clear that gw2 is a pretty casual game, so you end up with lots of insecure gamers who cling to anything that is hard to clear no matter if its hard because its actually hard(rarely), too easy(half the strike achievements are 'hard' because people kill stuff way too fast lol), its hard to find a group for it, or just because of design oversights.

    Failing rewards after 20 minutes just because of a timer being too tight isnt fun. I'd rather the timer not be one of the challenges and instead be more of a bonus thing like it is in strikes, only start at the final boss, or some other change. Just in general DRMs need balance work and most people don't enjoy them as is. I think it's really transparent when you see people jumping at chances to say "BUT THEY EASY" Anyone with some sense can tell those people only care about identifying themselves as someone who it was "easy" for before this bug instead of actually caring if this game improves in quality.

    But that's just my cynical realistic outlook on things. (shrug)

  • Jilora.9524Jilora.9524 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @mindcircus.1506 said:
    This bug is awful and absolutely sucked the fun out of my group's DRM run last night.

    Please fix these as soon as possible and revoke the acheivements from anyone who has exploited this bug to get them.

    Anet making a mistake and players running drms to get achieves is not an exploit. I still won't do them as drm's are boring to me but sure let anyone run them until anet fixes but no you don't get to reset their progress because you think you earned them and are special or something.

    WvW band wagoners ruin the game mode just like Karen's ruin these forums.

  • mindcircus.1506mindcircus.1506 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Jilora.9524 said:

    @mindcircus.1506 said:
    This bug is awful and absolutely sucked the fun out of my group's DRM run last night.

    Please fix these as soon as possible and revoke the acheivements from anyone who has exploited this bug to get them.

    Anet making a mistake and players running drms to get achieves is not an exploit. I still won't do them as drm's are boring to me but sure let anyone run them until anet fixes but no you don't get to reset their progress because you think you earned them and are special or something.

    Knowingly leveraging a bug to advance your character/account is the very definition of exploiting.

    "We recognize that some players are not able to complete all content." Gaile Gray 01.10.19

  • Bristingr.5034Bristingr.5034 Member ✭✭✭

    Welp, it's fixed, so back to never doing them again.

  • Noah Salazar.5430Noah Salazar.5430 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 7, 2021

    hi guys, pls don't spam with your opinions in bug section as you make hard time to find any usefull information

    it's totaly understandable that some ppl like easy mode and some other half like chalange mode to fight longer and harder

    Bug raport:

    Bug got fixed 5min ago after hotfix


  • Bristingr.5034Bristingr.5034 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 7, 2021

    You don't need to go check every little thing on a bug fix... that's literally the QA's job. They would have checked before they pushed it live.

  • Noah Salazar.5430Noah Salazar.5430 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 7, 2021

    You don't need to go check every little thing on a bug fix... that's literally the QA's job. They would have checked before they pushed it live.

    it's more of 2in1, i like cm drms solo/team anyway

  • Jilora.9524Jilora.9524 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @mindcircus.1506 said:

    @Jilora.9524 said:

    @mindcircus.1506 said:
    This bug is awful and absolutely sucked the fun out of my group's DRM run last night.

    Please fix these as soon as possible and revoke the acheivements from anyone who has exploited this bug to get them.

    Anet making a mistake and players running drms to get achieves is not an exploit. I still won't do them as drm's are boring to me but sure let anyone run them until anet fixes but no you don't get to reset their progress because you think you earned them and are special or something.

    Knowingly leveraging a bug to advance your character/account is the very definition of exploiting.

    They adjust difficulty all the time so not everyone would have known it wasn't intended. Now if i thought it wasn't because you had achieves and others didn't i might agree but this was all because you saw many getting achieves easier and were mad your achieves were of less value because you earned it hence the stalking of lfg to see all these exploiters. Like Boneskinner man was ez too hard easier again and now. Or metas so some probably didn't knowingly take advantage and noone should get reset.

    WvW band wagoners ruin the game mode just like Karen's ruin these forums.

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 8, 2021

    @Jilora.9524 said:

    @mindcircus.1506 said:

    @Jilora.9524 said:

    @mindcircus.1506 said:
    This bug is awful and absolutely sucked the fun out of my group's DRM run last night.

    Please fix these as soon as possible and revoke the acheivements from anyone who has exploited this bug to get them.

    Anet making a mistake and players running drms to get achieves is not an exploit. I still won't do them as drm's are boring to me but sure let anyone run them until anet fixes but no you don't get to reset their progress because you think you earned them and are special or something.

    Knowingly leveraging a bug to advance your character/account is the very definition of exploiting.

    They adjust difficulty all the time so not everyone would have known it wasn't intended. Now if i thought it wasn't because you had achieves and others didn't i might agree but this was all because you saw many getting achieves easier and were mad your achieves were of less value because you earned it hence the stalking of lfg to see all these exploiters. Like Boneskinner man was ez too hard easier again and now. Or metas so some probably didn't knowingly take advantage and noone should get reset.

    Difficulty adjustments are usually announced and it's fairly obvious that a CM being the same difficulty as normal mode is not intentional.

  • Bristingr.5034Bristingr.5034 Member ✭✭✭

    Just checked the boards. Nobody is doing DRMs now. Shocker.

    They actually improved activity on it accidentally and then they pull the rug out. Zzz.

  • DKRathalos.9625DKRathalos.9625 Member ✭✭✭

    @Bristingr.5034 said:
    Just checked the boards. Nobody is doing DRMs now. Shocker.

    They actually improved activity on it accidentally and then they pull the rug out. Zzz.

    Lol yeah. The bug is actually the perfect difficulty for DRM considering the reward is little.

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @DKRathalos.9625 said:

    @Bristingr.5034 said:
    Just checked the boards. Nobody is doing DRMs now. Shocker.

    They actually improved activity on it accidentally and then they pull the rug out. Zzz.

    Lol yeah. The bug is actually the perfect difficulty for DRM considering the reward is little.

    Well fortunately for you that difficulty can be found in normal DRMs.

  • @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @DKRathalos.9625 said:

    @Bristingr.5034 said:
    Just checked the boards. Nobody is doing DRMs now. Shocker.

    They actually improved activity on it accidentally and then they pull the rug out. Zzz.

    Lol yeah. The bug is actually the perfect difficulty for DRM considering the reward is little.

    Well fortunately for you that difficulty can be found in normal DRMs.

    Then they need to make the rewards equal to the difficulty. Which at CM mode, it's not, not by a long shot.

    Hard tasks are fine. Hard (read: TIME-CONSUMING) tasks with stingy rewards are not fine.

  • Healix.5819Healix.5819 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @DKRathalos.9625 said:

    @Bristingr.5034 said:
    Just checked the boards. Nobody is doing DRMs now. Shocker.

    They actually improved activity on it accidentally and then they pull the rug out. Zzz.

    Lol yeah. The bug is actually the perfect difficulty for DRM considering the reward is little.

    Well fortunately for you that difficulty can be found in normal DRMs.

    Enemies were stronger when it was bugged. The bug ultimately had little impact when solo, making the CMs a little faster while normal was slower.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    there is good idea: make one day per few, or four week, where all drm and raids have reduced hp. It will helps people check some content and get success without 250li requirement

    want solid balance ? - play chess.

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Skye Terrier.3805 said:

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @DKRathalos.9625 said:

    @Bristingr.5034 said:
    Just checked the boards. Nobody is doing DRMs now. Shocker.

    They actually improved activity on it accidentally and then they pull the rug out. Zzz.

    Lol yeah. The bug is actually the perfect difficulty for DRM considering the reward is little.

    Well fortunately for you that difficulty can be found in normal DRMs.

    Then they need to make the rewards equal to the difficulty. Which at CM mode, it's not, not by a long shot.

    Hard tasks are fine. Hard (read: TIME-CONSUMING) tasks with stingy rewards are not fine.

    There has been an imbalance of rewards in this game for the longest time. I don’t see why the rewards for DRMs need to be balanced around their difficulty when everything else isn’t.