solemn.9670 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Spinal_Shivers Usually get hit for around 7k No risk, all reward EZ 7k to 9k hit on a player with no skill involved Cooooooooooooooooooooooool edit: solo roaming context Edited February 5, 2022 by solemn.9670 Gonna get a lot of O__O and :'( reacts because necro mains feelings will be hurt 2 3 12 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) Yet when I meet your average full power necro I breathe a sigh of relief as its an easy enemy to fight because at least its not an infinite lifeforce core condi super bunker. Edited February 5, 2022 by Dawdler.8521 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solemn.9670 Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Dawdler.8521 said: Yet when I meet your average full power necro I breathe a sigh of relief as its an easy enemy to fight because at least its not an infinite lifeforce core condi super bunker. 100% agreed This is how bad the balance is When you see a lesser unbalanced build it's a sigh of relief LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenesis.6389 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/True_Shot 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solemn.9670 Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Xenesis.6389 said: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/True_Shot Don't evenGET ME STARTEDAAAAAAAAAAAAAHJRGH One step at a time comrade Edited February 5, 2022 by solemn.9670 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Grenade Barrage... Rapid Fire... 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solemn.9670 Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 20 minutes ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said: Grenade Barrage... Rapid Fire... The list goes on my man. Whole roaming meta is out of balance. If the expac release doesn't come with a wvw balance patch I'ma shart on these fools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, solemn.9670 said: The list goes on my man. Whole roaming meta is out of balance. If the expac release doesn't come with a wvw balance patch I'ma shart on these fools They've said that they will be doing a balance patch after EoD release. I suspect late March or mid April for that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telgum.6071 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Meanwhile you have fresh weaver doing twice that damage on not even half the range while stacking boons and kitten effects. 3 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solemn.9670 Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Telgum.6071 said: Meanwhile you have fresh weaver doing twice that damage on not even half the range while stacking boons and kitten effects. FA Scepter* weaver Which is one niche build that can be easily countered unlike the vast majority of problem builds You want to complain about weaver, complain about full cele barrier spam condi burn fire/arcane weaver. FA weaver is easy to counter if you spend some time figuring it out, cele fire weaver is just overpowered. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroud.2307 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Rapid Fire + OWP, idk how much damage. A lot. Last month.14.9k Backstab Last year.21k Malicious Backstab 2 years ago.16.2k Deathstrike 2 years ago.10.9k Essence Sap Last year.14.6k Heartseeker Last year.8.4k Long Range Shot Last year.15.4k Backstab, 15.3k Shadow Shot Last year.9.1k Shield Of Wrath 2 years ago.12.5k Test Of Faith Late last year.16.4k Test Of Faith Late last year.13.5k True Shot Last year.11.2k True Shot (with 3.4k armor) Last year. In conclusion, everything is stupid. In all seriousness though, people really need to stop taking things out of context. If I say someone hit me for 15k and complained of the balance, where is the validity in that without explaining the scenario? That 16k Test Of Faith hit me in the middle of a zerg right before I downed, and I was full zerk. I probably had 25 Vuln on me, or close to it, and the DH almost certainly had 25 Might and probably other buffs from the zerg. It doesn't usually hit that hard, but without explaining how it happened I'm sure some would just jump to the conclusion that it always does. Idk why I'm engaging in this discussion tbh. I already know you complain for the sake of it, whether you're memeing or just brain dead is anyone's guess. 14 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkpile.7439 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Shroud.2307 said: Rapid Fire + OWP, idk how much damage. A lot. Last month.14.9k Backstab Last year.21k Malicious Backstab 2 years ago.16.2k Deathstrike 2 years ago.10.9k Essence Sap Last year.14.6k Heartseeker Last year.8.4k Long Range Shot Last year.15.4k Backstab, 15.3k Shadow Shot Last year.9.1k Shield Of Wrath 2 years ago.12.5k Test Of Faith Late last year.16.4k Test Of Faith Late last year.13.5k True Shot Last year.11.2k True Shot (with 3.4k armor) Last year. In conclusion, everything is stupid. In all seriousness though, people really need to stop taking things out of context. If I say someone hit me for 15k and complained of the balance, where is the validity in that without explaining the scenario? That 16k Test Of Faith hit me in the middle of a zerg right before I downed, and I was full zerk. I probably had 25 Vuln on me, or close to it, and the DH almost certainly had 25 Might and probably other buffs from the zerg. It doesn't usually hit that hard, but without explaining how it happened I'm sure some would just jump to the conclusion that it always does. Idk why I'm engaging in this discussion tbh. I already know you complain for the sake of it, whether you're memeing or just brain dead is anyone's guess. And when enemy is in boon blob any of those skills can't even tickle them. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaba.5410 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 7 hours ago, solemn.9670 said: FA weaver is easy to counter if you spend some time figuring it out, cele fire weaver is just overpowered. The same can be said of Spinal Shivers so I'm kind of confused as to your reasoning against it. 3 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenPants.1870 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 9 hours ago, Telgum.6071 said: Meanwhile you have fresh weaver doing twice that damage on not even half the range while stacking boons and kitten effects. That also die the minute you look at them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telgum.6071 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 31 minutes ago, GoldenPants.1870 said: That also die the minute you look at them. Elementalist is the only class that no matter what, if you say something against it, 100% of the times someone will come at you to argue how wrong you are. 2 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenPants.1870 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Telgum.6071 said: Elementalist is the only class that no matter what, if you say something against it, 100% of the times someone will come at you to argue how wrong you are. I feel I see more mesmers or thieves that behave like that. But thats just my anecdotal view on the matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telgum.6071 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, GoldenPants.1870 said: I feel I see more mesmers or thieves that behave like that. But thats just my anecdotal view on the matter. To be fair, we have threads complaining about thieves/stealth every week. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 17 minutes ago, Telgum.6071 said: Elementalist is the only class that no matter what, if you say something against it, 100% of the times someone will come at you to argue how wrong you are. Ah, that's just the mental part of playing the class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenPants.1870 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, Dawdler.8521 said: Ah, that's just the mental part of playing the class. The physical is the floor. :^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrHome.1920 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Damage calculation is too complicated for most players. Otherwiese we wouldn't see these threads every week. The actual damage dealt has a huge variety as damage reduction multipliers are as frequent in the game as damage multipliers. Regarding the example in this specific thread: That 9k Spinal Shivers tickles the average bunker build for 1 to 3k damage (at 20 to 30k HP) - and that bunker is still capable of killing the zerk necro that can achieve 9k Spinal Shivers. A zerk necro loses to pretty much every bunker in the game if singled out (that's what I like to do with these builds - easy targets). 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 15 hours ago, solemn.9670 said: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Spinal_Shivers Usually get hit for around 7k No risk, all reward EZ 7k to 9k hit on a player with no skill involved Cooooooooooooooooooooooool edit: solo roaming context Maybe you should run those "OP" builds rather than your yolo builds for the sake of some video montage, cherry picking fights after hours/day spent roaming looking for bad enough players with their zerg builds dieing to some yolo build. You are already playing a bad enough class, on top of that you play these yolo builds with low toughness, healing power and you expect the game to be nerfed to a level where your yolo builds will shine more than they can now. If you don't want to play some condi/healing tank on ele...don't complain when you die easy...playing a power melee ele with the current meta/balance is like trying to win a F1 race with a bicycle , yes...from time to time you face people who can't even drive a gokart and out of those people you make a video and so what? How many times do you die by comparison ? Unless somebody can zerg burst, support, tank, duel with the same build..whatever the player uses cannot be considered OP/broken, " 1 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 The professions you keep complaining about every week, cannot do anything else outside roaming, on the other hand, with ele once you get bored of "roaming" , you can go zerg fighting and still be effective, if all you want to do is "roaming" than play a class designed for "roaming" 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mik.3401 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Telgum.6071 said: Elementalist is the only class that no matter what, if you say something against it, 100% of the times someone will come at you to argue how wrong you are. Ii think you are provoking some sort of argument here for no reason. Comparing FA weaver to overpowered builds is just laughable. High burst can be done by anyone, power Mesmer/Ranger/Berserker can do it by clicking 2-3 buttons. As FA you need to sweat more to do it. Whereas necro for instance has easy burst + good sustain on every build. As FA you need to watch your every step not to be wiped. And these are Just the power builds which have hard time with cele condi spammers who dominate. So it makes you come off as someone who never played it just got clapped by it. Edited February 6, 2022 by Mik.3401 2 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natedog.7549 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Yes nerf every decent damage skill left. Better yet give everyone the super adventure box sticks. Then we will have true balance. /s 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxoglanis.1904 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 I miss the days of 9k long range shot soulbeasts 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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