Ovark.2514 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Title. This carp is one of the least fun things to fight against. 3 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxoglanis.1904 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Dont forget to delete core ele too. 🐟 2 9 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crozame.4098 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Agreed. 1-5 are all useful, and have such a low CD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovark.2514 Posted March 24, 2022 Author Share Posted March 24, 2022 56 minutes ago, Paradoxoglanis.1904 said: Dont forget to delete core ele too. 🐟 This type of response to any suggested changes to core classes is so narrow-minded. I guess it's too much to remember that the devs have more than 2 braincells to rub together and would not deliberately leave a core class worse off for no good reason. smh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greedywholesome.9081 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Bummer you didn't say "Catalyst OP, delete this carp" - that would have made this thread epic 🙂 If traited the recharge on earth shield skills are reduced by a mere 20% but most eles don't hold onto the shield for the entire conjure duration. Usually its for emergency defense from skill 5 and sometime the pull from 4 to interrupt rezzing then followed by the 3 skill to daze opponents and (get an aura) then it gets chucked away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar.4257 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ovark.2514 said: the devs have more than 2 braincells to rub together and would not deliberately leave a core class worse off for no good reason When was this established? 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downstate.4697 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Its cooldown is very short for the amount of utility it brings. I run it on almost every ele build these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellz.3058 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Yes, let's nerf ele even more! Some of you need to learn to legit play the game 3 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallic.2397 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Conjures OP? Sign of the times 😂😂 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuya.6495 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Is this a fire weaver complaint thread in disguise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxoglanis.1904 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 2 hours ago, FrownyClown.8402 said: Its cooldown is very short for the amount of utility it brings. I run it on almost every ele build these days. its literally the only thing that makes core ele playable 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuma.1503 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 This is one of the few things that makes playing Ele without a sustain amulet possible. Anet is determined to force this squishy 11k HP class into melee range, so it needs tools to survive in melee range. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorhuz.4695 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 4 hours ago, greedywholesome.9081 said: Bummer you didn't say "Catalyst OP, delete this carp" - that would have made this thread epic 🙂 If traited the recharge on earth shield skills are reduced by a mere 20% but most eles don't hold onto the shield for the entire conjure duration. Usually its for emergency defense from skill 5 and sometime the pull from 4 to interrupt rezzing then followed by the 3 skill to daze opponents and (get an aura) then it gets chucked away TBH the daze can deal 6k damage with lightning rod, I wouldn't sleep on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telgum.6071 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 (edited) Sorry this is the Guild Wars 2 forums. Here you have to choose between saying "downstate ele meta" or receive a hundred of confused faces for suggesting that Ele may be too strong. Edited March 25, 2022 by Telgum.6071 Typo 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovark.2514 Posted March 25, 2022 Author Share Posted March 25, 2022 46 minutes ago, Kuma.1503 said: This is one of the few things that makes playing Ele without a sustain amulet possible. Anet is determined to force this squishy 11k HP class into melee range, so it needs tools to survive in melee range. Expand your mind. Apparently there is no middle ground between nothing and COMPLETELY INVULNERABLE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimjack.8130 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Terrorhuz.4695 said: TBH the daze can deal 6k damage with lightning rod, I wouldn't sleep on that 6k damage with 1 skill is alot! Unless you play Warrior, Ranger, Guardian, Thief, Rev, Necro, or Engi! Then you have 5 different skills that hit for 6k or more! If Ele has 2 skills that hit for 6k, I really hope that gets addressed because thats a clear imbalance compared to every other spec! 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greedywholesome.9081 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Terrorhuz.4695 said: TBH the daze can deal 6k damage with lightning rod, I wouldn't sleep on that No doubt the daze/leap skill 3 can do that kinda damage on glass LR with 11K HP if core (HP on LR glass weaver is slightly higher from first traitline). It's versatile and I feel it's one of the last bastions of hope eles have to make the class playable, unlike say a scrapper or holo which I play as well. I find the earth shield to be far more useful and relevant to the elementalist class than the entire catalyst trait line. When I use it, it's primarily for defense or distraction if I feel I can no longer hold the node with 2-3 on me The title of the thread is "please DELETE earth shield or make it counterplayable" - in a way, it's rather insulting because: 1. Without fully understanding the mechanics of a build or class I'm never quick to ask for nerfs. I also multi-class for my own benefit of learning counters, strengths and weaknesses of a build. 2. It's one of the least played classes and it got the very worst end of the stick with slow and subtle nerfs plus the most awful spec in the history of this game. I usually don't mind trade-offs to counter play the earth shield but right now, it's like squeezing water from the ele. There's not much to trade or to counter, most specifically from core and weaver. 3. Despite how annoying a build can be, I always find ways, seek advice etc on how to counter them. I almost never come on here to blatantly ask for something to be nerfed.... coz the forum does that automatically, gratis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxoglanis.1904 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 54 minutes ago, Grimjack.8130 said: 6k damage with 1 skill is alot! Unless you play Warrior, Ranger, Guardian, Thief, Rev, Necro, or Engi! Then you have 5 different skills that hit for 6k or more! If Ele has 2 skills that hit for 6k, I really hope that gets addressed because thats a clear imbalance compared to every other spec! so... churning earth is op? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuma.1503 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Ovark.2514 said: Expand your mind. Apparently there is no middle ground between nothing and COMPLETELY INVULNERABLE. Ah, a stationary invuln. Truly terrifying. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greedywholesome.9081 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Why does this thread exist? 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider.6024 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 I bet the was made a player who runs trapper runes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youle.5824 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Tbh asking for nerf to anything that keeps ele barely alive in PvP is just cruel. You should offer sincere apologies to the dying ele community left in PvP @_@ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovark.2514 Posted March 25, 2022 Author Share Posted March 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Rider.6024 said: I bet the was made a player who runs trapper runes I think I ran trapper runes in one match about 3 years ago. The community has been in agreement for years now that those runes need to be removed; so we've just been waiting on the devs to act on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downstate.4697 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Earth shield carrying anything is a problem. Should earth shield be nerfed right now? Probably not, but once other areas are hopefully buffed it will definately need to be toned down in some way. I think its fine for things like lr weaver to use it, but when you have a tanky tempest running it to hold a node you start to see why players dont like to play against it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 The counterplay is waiting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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