Quaggan as playable race!

[Sahne.6950]

Quaggan when?

Edited September 16, 2022 by Sahne.6950

[kharmin.7683]

(sigh)  Forum search.

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/121171-more-races/?do=findComment&comment=1752492

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/98267-quaggan/?do=findComment&comment=1406515

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/115160-new-playable-races/?do=findComment&comment=1663179

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/15707-new-playable-races-study-choose-your-favorite/?do=findComment&comment=15706

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/98772-the-last-playable-race-thread-id-like-to-see/?do=findComment&comment=1414881

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/95257-making-new-races-available-and-playable/?do=findComment&comment=1360161

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/70299-how-you-can-fit-in-playable-quaggans/?do=findComment&comment=70298

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/76626-will-they-eventually-put-in-a-new-playable-race/?do=findComment&comment=76625

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/37276-new-playable-race/?do=findComment&comment=37275

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/48015-new-playable-races-reasoning/?do=findComment&comment=48014

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/4502-theoretically-what-new-playable-race-do-you-want/?do=findComment&comment=4501

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/45710-its-worth-to-make-new-playable-races-in-gw2/?do=findComment&comment=45709

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/41906-hope-for-more-playable-races-specialties/?do=findComment&comment=41905

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/27282-skritt-or-quaggans-as-playable-race/?do=findComment&comment=27281

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/9966-ideas-for-making-a-introducing-a-new-playable-race-in-the-future/?do=findComment&comment=9965

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/4496-new-playable-race/?do=findComment&comment=4495

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/1619-what-race-would-you-most-like-to-see-playable-and-why/?do=findComment&comment=1618

 

[Sahne.6950]

quaggan?

but...but... Quaggan likes you!

Edited September 16, 2022 by Sahne.6950

[Randulf.7614]

6 minutes ago, kharmin.7683 said:

(sigh)  Forum search.

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/121171-more-races/?do=findComment&comment=1752492

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/98267-quaggan/?do=findComment&comment=1406515

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/115160-new-playable-races/?do=findComment&comment=1663179

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/15707-new-playable-races-study-choose-your-favorite/?do=findComment&comment=15706

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/98772-the-last-playable-race-thread-id-like-to-see/?do=findComment&comment=1414881

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/95257-making-new-races-available-and-playable/?do=findComment&comment=1360161

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/70299-how-you-can-fit-in-playable-quaggans/?do=findComment&comment=70298

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/76626-will-they-eventually-put-in-a-new-playable-race/?do=findComment&comment=76625

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/37276-new-playable-race/?do=findComment&comment=37275

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/48015-new-playable-races-reasoning/?do=findComment&comment=48014

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/4502-theoretically-what-new-playable-race-do-you-want/?do=findComment&comment=4501

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/45710-its-worth-to-make-new-playable-races-in-gw2/?do=findComment&comment=45709

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/41906-hope-for-more-playable-races-specialties/?do=findComment&comment=41905

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/27282-skritt-or-quaggans-as-playable-race/?do=findComment&comment=27281

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/9966-ideas-for-making-a-introducing-a-new-playable-race-in-the-future/?do=findComment&comment=9965

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/4496-new-playable-race/?do=findComment&comment=4495

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/1619-what-race-would-you-most-like-to-see-playable-and-why/?do=findComment&comment=1618

 

You must have those links on bookmark at this point given the speed of reply 😂

[Crono.4197]

11 minutes ago, kharmin.7683 said:

(sigh)  Forum search.

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/121171-more-races/?do=findComment&comment=1752492

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/98267-quaggan/?do=findComment&comment=1406515

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/115160-new-playable-races/?do=findComment&comment=1663179

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/15707-new-playable-races-study-choose-your-favorite/?do=findComment&comment=15706

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/98772-the-last-playable-race-thread-id-like-to-see/?do=findComment&comment=1414881

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/95257-making-new-races-available-and-playable/?do=findComment&comment=1360161

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/70299-how-you-can-fit-in-playable-quaggans/?do=findComment&comment=70298

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/76626-will-they-eventually-put-in-a-new-playable-race/?do=findComment&comment=76625

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/37276-new-playable-race/?do=findComment&comment=37275

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/48015-new-playable-races-reasoning/?do=findComment&comment=48014

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/4502-theoretically-what-new-playable-race-do-you-want/?do=findComment&comment=4501

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/45710-its-worth-to-make-new-playable-races-in-gw2/?do=findComment&comment=45709

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/41906-hope-for-more-playable-races-specialties/?do=findComment&comment=41905

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/27282-skritt-or-quaggans-as-playable-race/?do=findComment&comment=27281

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/9966-ideas-for-making-a-introducing-a-new-playable-race-in-the-future/?do=findComment&comment=9965

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/4496-new-playable-race/?do=findComment&comment=4495

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/1619-what-race-would-you-most-like-to-see-playable-and-why/?do=findComment&comment=1618

 

I wanted to post "Kharmiiiiin, where are youuuuuuuu?" but I was 11 minutes late! :)))))

[The Greyhawk.9107]

30 minutes ago, Sahne.6950 said:

Quaggan when?

Ok, gonna try to be nicer this time. The unfortunate facts are that, on top of the many many reason that the game company that more and more are acting like they belong in a Monty Python sketch aren't going to add any new races at all, quaggans probably are not popular enough and, more importantly, are hamstrung by having severe limitations in character customization. Skin color and patterns and eye color will only get you so far, they don't even have hair.

Sorry.

[Sahne.6950]

4 minutes ago, The Greyhawk.9107 said:

Ok, gonna try to be nicer this time. The unfortunate facts are that, on top of the many many reason that the game company that more and more are acting like they belong in a Monty Python sketch aren't going to add any new races at all, quaggans probably are not popular enough and, more importantly, are hamstrung by having severe limitations in character customization. Skin color and patterns and eye color will only get you so far, they don't even have hair.

Sorry.

if i can play a Quaggan.. i am okay with it being bald. 

You saying quaggans are not popular did hurt me deep inside :C

 

Quaggan when?

 

[Randulf.7614]

6 minutes ago, Sahne.6950 said:

if i can play a Quaggan.. i am okay with it being bald. 

You saying quaggans are not popular did hurt me deep inside :C

 

Quaggan when?

 

The spirit of the Quaggan lies within you, not with the crude matter on the outside. 

[kharmin.7683]

44 minutes ago, Randulf.7614 said:

You must have those links on bookmark at this point given the speed of reply 😂

No, I actually did use the search to find those, because the forums search is that easy.

 

Although I probably should paste them in a notepad document at this point.

[Southerncarl.2740]

1 hour ago, kharmin.7683 said:

(sigh)  Forum search.

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/121171-more-races/?do=findComment&comment=1752492

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/98267-quaggan/?do=findComment&comment=1406515

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/115160-new-playable-races/?do=findComment&comment=1663179

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/15707-new-playable-races-study-choose-your-favorite/?do=findComment&comment=15706

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/98772-the-last-playable-race-thread-id-like-to-see/?do=findComment&comment=1414881

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/95257-making-new-races-available-and-playable/?do=findComment&comment=1360161

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/70299-how-you-can-fit-in-playable-quaggans/?do=findComment&comment=70298

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/76626-will-they-eventually-put-in-a-new-playable-race/?do=findComment&comment=76625

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/37276-new-playable-race/?do=findComment&comment=37275

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/48015-new-playable-races-reasoning/?do=findComment&comment=48014

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/4502-theoretically-what-new-playable-race-do-you-want/?do=findComment&comment=4501

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/45710-its-worth-to-make-new-playable-races-in-gw2/?do=findComment&comment=45709

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/41906-hope-for-more-playable-races-specialties/?do=findComment&comment=41905

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/27282-skritt-or-quaggans-as-playable-race/?do=findComment&comment=27281

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/9966-ideas-for-making-a-introducing-a-new-playable-race-in-the-future/?do=findComment&comment=9965

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/4496-new-playable-race/?do=findComment&comment=4495

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/1619-what-race-would-you-most-like-to-see-playable-and-why/?do=findComment&comment=1618

 

 

The forum police are out again.

[Fueki.4753]

In the best possible scenario:

never

Edited September 16, 2022 by Fueki.4753

[DeanBB.4268]

Not until after we get skritt!

[Xaint.7461]

if they struggle to fit a tengu race in the first place i wonder how they gonna fit a quaggan race, thats probably way more effort in comparison to a tengu character due to its structure, we never got tengu so i cant see how they would go work on quaggan which probably would take double the amount of effort to make possible.

 

With that said, praise quaggans. 

[Freya.9075]

"Hoo, weed. You're out of your element. Quaggan is about to foo up your day!"

[disco.9302]

Threads like these make me think that Anet should have a gofundme style page where "popular" ideas can be put and once they reach a certain funding goal, they will work on the project. 

That way players can either contribute to their wacky ideas to make them a game reality or actually see that they are one of about 4 people in total who think it's something to be added.

Considering dev time a playable new race should be what? £500k? maybe £700k? 

If these "people" want to raise the funds, then go for it, otherwise I would hate to see current time/money anet has used on things like this.

 

[Tiamat.8254]

Hopefully never. Why would you even?

[Randulf.7614]

2 minutes ago, Tiamat.8254 said:

Hopefully never. Why would you even?

The thread almost certainly was created to bait and wind people up 😉

[Gryphon.2875]

18 minutes ago, disco.9302 said:

Threads like these make me think that Anet should have a gofundme style page where "popular" ideas can be put and once they reach a certain funding goal, they will work on the project. 

That way players can either contribute to their wacky ideas to make them a game reality or actually see that they are one of about 4 people in total who think it's something to be added.

Considering dev time a playable new race should be what? £500k? maybe £700k? 

If these "people" want to raise the funds, then go for it, otherwise I would hate to see current time/money anet has used on things like this.

 

This. Fund your favs.

[Farohna.6247]

Most useless, helpless, whiney excuse for a race in Tyria.  Surprised they don't get chopped up by the propellers on my skiff.  Never.  Never.  Ever.

[The Greyhawk.9107]

2 hours ago, disco.9302 said:

Threads like these make me think that Anet should have a gofundme style page where "popular" ideas can be put and once they reach a certain funding goal, they will work on the project. 

That way players can either contribute to their wacky ideas to make them a game reality or actually see that they are one of about 4 people in total who think it's something to be added.

Considering dev time a playable new race should be what? £500k? maybe £700k? 

If these "people" want to raise the funds, then go for it, otherwise I would hate to see current time/money anet has used on things like this.

 

I can see that causing some terrible things being added to this game.  NO thanks.

[Lysico.4906]

No no no.      Stupid little buggers.  

[Nilkemia.8507]

Sigh.

 

No. Without even delving into forum search, I can think of several reasons quaggans can't/won't be playable. And I actually kinda like them (when they're not being annoying or trying to kill me.)

 

1 : They're a minor race. I think it's even stated as such during the Order portion of the core storyline when choosing one to help. They have no capital city, no region they can primarily lay claim to, no real government outside of their own scattered local communities, and thus little if any of the resources necessary to train and/or equip professions in the same manner that the playable races do.

 

2 : Customization. Their options would be very limited compared, due to their particular body type. Hair is out, unless we say they're magicking that on or wearing wigs (and why would they do that), faces would be very limited as well or would necessitate the making of new ones, and there isn't a whole lot you can do with them body-wise, besides making them bigger/thicker and/or vice versa. Same with eyes, as far as I recall, their eyes don't have the distinctions of eye colors or sizes like the playable ones have....that leaves things like skin color/tone, their fins, maybe? It would require making unique options just for them as well, which leads slightly into the next one...

 

3 : Making them playable would necessitate making a Personal Story tailored to them specifically, or some other kind of story to explain how a character of a minor race could rise to the same position and/or achievements that one of the playable races could, which while not impossible, would be more difficult to explain away in universe without involving some kind of retcon (and GW2's plot is already messy as is)

 

Moreover, it would require adding in the above mentioned things they lack in sufficient amount in order to justify making them playable, something the developers have no reason to go out of their way to do. It would also require making new versions of each armor and outfit available now and future to fit them, which would be near insane to think of.

 

The best you could hope or ask for is some sort of tonic like the Watchknight ones that let you use your skills and still interact normally. The only race I can think of that really had any chance of becoming playable was the Tengu, but that time has come and gone. The quaggans' chance is comparable to an icebrood in the depths.

 

 

Edited September 16, 2022 by Nilkemia.8507
Minor word edit.

[Cronospere.8143]

5 minutes ago, Nilkemia.8507 said:

Sigh.

 

No. Without even delving into forum search, I can think of several reasons quaggans can't/won't be playable. And I actually kinda like them (when they're not being annoying or trying to kill me.)

 

1 : They're a minor race. I think it's even stated as such during the Order portion of the core storyline when choosing one to help. They have no capital city, no region they can primarily lay claim to, no real government outside of their own scattered underwater village communities, and thus little if any of the resources necessary to train and/or equip professions in the same manner that the playable races do.

 

2 : Customization. Their options would be very limited compared, due to their particular body type. Hair is out, unless we say they're magicking that on or wearing wigs (and why would they do that), faces would be very limited as well or would necessitate the making of new ones, and there isn't a whole lot you can do with them body-wise, besides making them bigger/thicker and/or vice versa. Same with eyes, as far as I recall, their eyes don't have the distinctions of eye colors or sizes like the playable ones have....that leaves things like skin color/tone, their fins, maybe? It would require making unique options just for them as well, which leads slightly into the next one...

 

3 : Making them playable would necessitate making a Personal Story tailored to them specifically, or some other kind of story to explain how a character of a minor race could rise to the same position and/or achievements that one of the playable races could, which while not impossible, would be more difficult to explain away in universe without involving some kind of retcon (and GW2's plot is already messy as is)

 

Moreover, it would require adding in the above mentioned things they lack in sufficient amount in order to justify making them playable, something the developers have no reason to go out of their way to do. It would also require making new versions of each armor and outfit available now and future to fit them, which would be near insane to think of.

 

The best you could hope or ask for is some sort of tonic like the Watchknight ones that let you use your skills and still interact normally. The only race I can think of that really had any chance of becoming playable was the Tengu, but that time has come and gone. The quaggans' chance is comparable to an icebrood in the depths.

 

 

Also if i remember correctly, because they are one of the 5 important minor races  they are also mostly unable to do magic and therefor not able to become most of the 9 professions. 

 

So that would make a completely different design of quaggan as playable race. Looking at how anet is struggling to even add a playable race that is able to do magic and is a painfull reminder of an unfinished project (Tengu..) i really doubt they will be able to do quaggan as playable race. 

 

And if they somehow were able to do so, i am more curious how the skritt hivemind would work as a PC than quaggan.. Booohhooo 

[DeanBB.4268]

Never underestimate the power of Coooooo!

[DarcShriek.5829]

9 hours ago, Sahne.6950 said:

Quaggan when?

Not until after they make oozes playable.  Oozes are cool, quaggans are losers that lost their homes.